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  1. Happy Dissenter says:

    The UK is now having problems with smart meter installations. Will they never learn?? “Millions of smart meters may need replacing due to IT blunder”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/05/millions-smart-meters-may-need-replacing-due-blunder/

  2. Jodie Donnelly says:

    I would like to attach my comment, which is an update on my current house hunting journey relating to Smart Meters (SM), Solar Panels, etc. in NSW, that, I left for the following link:
    http://www.saukvalley.com/2017/04/13/letter-worried-about-smart-meters-how-to-opt-out/aiwyj84/
    My comment/Update, as follows:
    Yes you are being pro-active and very wise, to not install these seriously dangerous things around your family.
    I have EHS and get extremely ill just walking in streets that have smart meters (SM) deployed.
    My husband who does not have EHS, yet, has recently realized while searching for a new place to get away from such unhealthy paraphernalia, such SM, solar panels, Wi-Fi, etc, why he gets very ill when I send him to look in meter boxes. He now realizes it is only when he is standing at one that has a SM.
    We don’t bother going further inside the house for the viewing if the meter box, or neighbouring ones has got these evil things attached.
    The feedback from those who have them in Penrith NSW and surrounding areas, such as occupiers moving out and/or their neighbours, that, I have spoken to in my journey looking for a property without a SM over the last few months, many who don’t even know the link yet, is terrifying.
    They explain that ever since they were installed they and their family are not sleeping, are having headaches, feeling ill at home, etc.
    When the occupiers who don’t know the link yet, are asked how they and their families health is at home and if they are sleeping, etc.
    After having looked in their meter box already I now know before they answer what they will likely say. You can always tell a family who has an analogue compared to one that has a SM.
    You can see the wheels turning as they answer, explaining and making excuses for why they thought they weren’t sleeping, many saying they now have to take sleeping pills, etc. or their children have become noisy and restless during the night.
    The most recent property, belonging to a neighbour of a place we looked at in Emu Plains NSW had the trilogy of ill health and beyond attached to her home and I feel her story is the best example of what having this unnatural unhealthy paraphernalia attached to the family home, signifies.
    We got excited when the property we went to look at, away from electrosmog, had a safe old analogue and no SM stealthily sitting there next to it. But the air felt radiated and we both said what could that be. We couldn’t see any solar panels on it or any surrounding roofs, as these are dangerous enough in themselves when placed directly above you, let alone when they are smart metered.
    We lifted the neighbour’s meter box door to have a look and we seen the biggest SM we had ever seen, we didn’t even know they came that big on residential properties, with a standard sized SM next to it.
    Hubby then seen a solar hot water tank jutting from the rear of this neighbour’s roof.
    We quickly moved away from the meter box and went around to the front door and I did a quick survey as I do sometimes once I know what is in the meter box.
    The lady who answered the door (the owner) had a story which I feel best sums up what having these things attached to the family home signifies.
    I told her we were looking at homes but needed to avoid SM. She said, “Oh, that is what I have”. I was surprised that this old lady even knew what they were, or that they were on her property, as most don’t.
    I asked her if her or any of her family had problems sleeping, etc.
    She was agitated and angry for whatever reason so I tried to walk away, assuming it was because I had knocked on her door, but, she wanted to talk, so it was not me, but, the subject that agitated her.
    She said angrily and with a vengeance, “NO I do not have trouble sleeping and I am fine”, she started to talk about the wind turbines and the climate change, etc. She would regularly revert back to the sleeping question for no reason and just say angrily, I have no trouble sleeping, etc.
    I said I am glad you and your family are in good health, sorry to have bothered you and I kept trying to walk away and go back up her driveway to leave.
    All of a sudden she said loudly and begrudgingly, “well ok I am not sleeping, and I haven’t been for some months, but, you would not be sleeping too, if your daughter died”.
    It was then I realized this woman already had suspicions about the dangers of these meters and her bizarre behavior/attitude was more defensive, than angry. She felt guilty about something.
    I turned back around and asked her where did her daughter live, already being pretty sure what the answer would be. She said here and then she said, abruptly thumbing to the back area of the house, “well not here but out there”.
    Like out there was no man’s land, like she doesn’t go out there.
    This would have been where all the solar panels were, as they could not be seen on any other areas of the roof from the front.
    She said “I came home and found her dead in December last year and nobody can tell me why, nobody still now can tell me why”.
    I said, so she slept and lived under the solar panels and she said, yes, but they (the solar panels) have been there a long time, as if this strengthened her argument. When all it did was make the whole other side of the argument make more sense.
    This made me realise she obviously knew something about SM dangers, but not about solar panel dangers, in particular, when putting these two together.
    I asked her how long the SM had been there and she said “since late last year” with a disapproving shake of her head. She then said defensively, “but you have no choice they make you put them in, there is nothing I can do about it”.
    It was then I felt sorry for this woman as I know how hopeless it feels trying to avoid these things when you are made to have them, knowing they are making you and your family ill.
    And then there are those who are just uneducated on the true dangerous of them and choose to have them. I feel this woman was initially the latter. She is carrying a huge guilt burden over her daughter’s death.
    I believe her daughter was trying to tell her that the solar panel area of the house she resided in, in particular, once the smart meters were installed, were making her ill and she (mum) wouldn’t listen, as is very sadly the case with many members of families who have a canary and/or someone who are more heavily exposed and feel it worse and quicker in the family/home.
    After her daughter died in the bed below and surrounded by these things, this woman avoids the back area and spends a lot of time trying to convince herself that these deathly things have not caused, or contributed to her and her families deaths and/or ill health.
    Knowing firsthand and research demonstrating also how fiercely and quickly this type of radiation spurs on mould growth and promotes fungus spore germination, I would put money on it that they also, at least in the back area of the house have a toxic mould problem, which can be deadly in itself.
    If you are smart enough to avoid industry funded “research”, on this type of radiation, there is plenty of unbiased, intelligence/research out there explaining what likely happened to her daughter and why and how it wore her down over years under the panels and then took her out, when these paired up with the evil meters.
    Dr Neil Cherry and Dr Erica Mallery Blythe are a good place to start.

    • Wowed says:

      What can I say but, “Wow”? Jodie, you’ve looked into this issue at length. Do you recall where you found the research about RF causing an increase in mould?

      • Jodie Donnelly says:

        Hi Wowed
        I am able to grab these few quite quickly.

        The first link, below, also has a couple of detailed comments attached from me, explaining how my personal experience made me realized the undeniable link of mould/fungus spore proliferation being spurred on by LIR/EMR and their toxic emissions being made hugely more virulent by this. Leading me to then seek and find research confirming my foregone conclusions.

        http://it-takes-time.com/2015/07/microbial-growth-and-electromagnetic-radiation.html
        Toxic Mold and Electromagnetic Radiation.

        http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15456218
        [Effect of radio-frequency electromagnetic radiation on physiological features of Saccharomyces cerevisiae strain UCM Y-517].

        http://phys.org/news/2007-05-radiation-eating-fungi.html
        Fungi Gobble Radiation to Grow, Study Says.

        http://optimalprediction.com/wp/radiation-eating-fungi-they-kill-trees-and-they-kill-people/
        Radiation-eating fungi. They kill trees and they kill people.

        There are others, but I will have to sift through stuff to find them. I will track them down and send them through.

        Kind regards
        Jodie

        • Wowed says:

          Jodie,

          thanks for those links. That’s sufficient to whet my appetite. Interesting about the additional link between Lyme disease and RF. It seems I am hearing more about Lyme in
          Australia and overseas. And if the GPs don’t have a magic pill for it, they tell you that you’re imagining you have Lyme. Just like they don’t recognise EHS because the pharmaceutical companies have not promoted a cure or treatment for it. As soon as the drug companies create a pill for EHS, the GPs will be falling over themselves to diagnose it.

  3. Traol Coladis says:

    Unfortunately I have had the rough end of the Stick from Energy retails since having Solar Panels installed at my home in 2012. Going through VCAT twice was Nightmarish and now that the Tesla Powerwall 2 is out I am looking into to getting two of them thus having about 27Kw Hrs. I have never been able to capitalize on the feed in rate as AGL never submitted the paperwork. Then I had to fight Simply Energy for not honoring the contract they agreed to…. Like I said it is a Nightmare.

    My house uses on average 11 Kilowatt Hours a day. The System Generates on average 14kilowatts a day. I have been quoted about $20k to have 2 of these Powerwall2 batteries installed and I am seriously considering giving the electricity retailers the Flick and going off GRID in suburbia. The post code is 3196. In Victoria.

    Do I need to be aware of any other hidden charges that these dodgy electricity companies may try to slug me for after I pay my final bill to them and tell them to come and abolish their Goddamned Smart Meter (remove it from my home.)

    regards
    Traolcoladis

    • Ms T says:

      Congratulations Traol. Half your luck! I don’t really have any answers for you, but there is a rumour that the distributors might one day try to bill us for infrastructure (street lights, power poles, etc) as more people follow your example and go off grid. Frankly, I think a lot of people would be well within their rights to tell the distributors where to go, since they forced us to go off grid with their unethical behaviour.

  4. Dimitra says:

    DOES ANYONE WANT TO PURCHASE A 3 BEDROOM HOME IN MELBOURNE WITH THE ORIGINAL ANALOGUE ELECTRICITY METER?
    A 3 bedroom home in Brunswick West, Victoria, has been listed for sale by Nelson Alexander and will be auctioned on 25th February, 2017. This was my uncle and aunt’s home, and has the original analogue electricity meter, thanks to my uncle objecting to Citipower about installation
    of a smart meter. The details of the property can be found at:

    http://www.nelsonalexander.com.au/property/476567/19-appleby-crescent-brunswick-west/

    • Anonymous says:

      when the electricity bill is transferred to a new name the power company will have a meter installed as part of the supply contract

      • Dimitra says:

        You do not have to accept a smart meter when the electricity bill is transferred to a new name. I transferred an electricity bill to my name for a property in Brunswick West which still has an analogue meter, in 2016. I told Lumo energy that I want to connect the electricity in my name, but I will not accept a smart meter and they obliged.

      • Ms T says:

        What if the new owner barricades the analogue meter?

        I have a more laid back distributor and I have observed that they have failed to install smart meters on small commercial premises that were vacant at the time that smart meters were installed in the area. Those premises now have tenants but still have analogue meters.

  5. Kerrie says:

    We do not have a smart meter, have locked the meter box. Once a month we read the meter ourselves and ring through to AGL with the reading. Have not had an issue, until a couple of months ago. Started to get exceptionally high bills, checked the readings and have been hit with very high usage, contacted power company, they have sent out people to check the readings on three separate occasions. They keep charging us for incorrect readings.
    So l am wondering if anyone else is having issues with being overcharged/ incorrect billing. I have to wonder if it is the power company being sly and are deliberately doing this to be able to say we need to upgrade our (7 year) old meter.
    Anyone having similar problems? Would love to know.
    Thanks you.

    • Lucky says:

      Kerrie, is AGL billing you for a different usage figure than what you are supplying to them? My meter gets manually read every quarter. My meter reader is very helpful and gives me no grief. If he is unable to read the meter and the bill is overestimated, my electricity retailer will adjust the bill down if I ring to tell them that it is too far from reality. I don’t wish to name my retailer as I don’t want to sound like I’m recommending them, because I wouldn’t recommend them. I just think I am lucky to have one of the more co-operative distributors (sorry if I sound like I am on the side of those mongrels), I have a good meter reader, and my retailer believes me when I tell them the estimate is too high.

      I did hear rumours a couple of years ago that the retailers will eventually become responsible for the meters, so I wonder if AGL is getting ready for this change. This means that it will no longer be the distributor harassing you to get a SM, but your retailer.

  6. Manda says:

    Can someone please tell me more about the RED Energy smart Meter roll out in NSW.
    I can t get through on the phone and need to know what type of smart meter they will be installing and what alternatives i have.
    Suggestions/help please ??!!
    We have a 3.5kw solar system which has been installed for 3 years, but recently replaced the inverter to a non- smart one.

    • Tanya says:

      Manda,
      try contacting Peter at http://www.emraware.com/ to see if he knows. Meanwhile, you might want to lock your meter box or bar access to your meter to ensure you don’t have a smart meter forced upon you. I suspect that they will install a wirelessly transmitting SM, or capable of that in the near future when they are ready, so you need to say “no” from the outset. Even if it is not wireless, it causes dirty electricity, which causes health problems. Don’t agree to a non-wirelessly transmitting SM, because they can potentially remotely make it transmit wirelessly and you will not know why you are suddenly sick.

  7. Asthmatic says:

    I find myself wondering about the possible link between the thunderstorm asthma cases in Victoria and the widespread installation of smart meters in Victoria. The authorities are telling us that thunderstorm asthma is caused by a sudden change in weather and a high pollen count. What they are not telling us is that ElectroMagnetic Radiation increases asthma and hayfever. How many centuries have we been experiencing thunderstorms, sudden weather changes and high pollen counts? And how long have we been experiencing mass deaths from these environmental conditions? And why is it only Victoria (you know, the state with mandated, widespread smart meters) that is in the news so much for this phenomenon right now?

    So someone taking shelter indoors on a day where weather conditions are likely to trigger asthma attacks may not necessarily be helping their cause. If they are ‘sheltering’ near a smart meter the EMR may only serve to increase their asthma. Not that going outside is a better alternative. And frankly, going to hospital may not be a great solution either. All that electronic, electric and wireless equipment in a hospital is not going to be conducive to recovery for someone suffering from asthma.

    The best solution is to get rid of smart meters and reduce other sources of wireless radiation. But that would require that you be ‘smart’ enough to recognise the dangers. Don’t rely on some ‘smart’ device to make you ‘smart’.

    • Allan says:

      True the electromagnetic radiation is causing people to choke. I am not an asthmatic person myself, but since I have become so sick from all this radiation, I’ve had to buy an asthma pump and I’m choking wherever I go. I can feel the radiation in the back of my throat. Before I started taking so many vitamins, I felt like I was cooking everywhere I went…like a piece of meat. I lost my memory and my ears where ringing like a machine. Thank you to the people that did nothing to help me and said I was crazy, the council, doctors ( pharmaceutical drug dealers) and the authorities that are suppose to protect us, but are instead now looking out for the corporations.

      • Vicky says:

        It’s always been their plan. They slowly introduce one harmful thing after another- all the while keeping us distracted with the other hand by new technologies ooh aah… and as sickness creeps up on us we will be as the story of the boiling frog- COOKED and too sick to fight back. To help you I’ve read that when people have sufficient iodine in the body- radiation doesn’t affect them.- We all had iodine once- it was put in bread and salt so people got it every day- but they weren’t getting sick- so ‘they’ had to do something about that- so they said it was POISON all of a sudden (strange how no one was ever poisoned by it before). If iodine is poison why are there ‘iodine receptors’ in the body. Coincidentally BROMINE which they replaced iodine with in bread is a poison to the system and fills the receptors meant for iodine. Oh, by the way what is the antidote given to people rushed in with radiation poisoning????…IODINE. Apparently nascent iodine is GREAT and lugols is good too (they’re different from each other slightly.) Also, If I were you (I plan to do the same thing) get a good EMF protector- I’m still looking for one that works 😉

    • char says:

      Thunderstorm asthma is the biggest load of crock I have ever heard. I reckon it’s from chemtrails. Nothing of that manner has EVER happened, and it was barely covered in the news. You had to search in detail for it in google. If it was from pollen, it would happen every year…..very suss

  8. oren says:

    If anyone has some advice I would be so appreciative.
    I have a home (NSW) which I will be moving into next year with small children. Currently it is rented.

    My tenants did not see the notice to install a smart meter, and NO ONE notified me, as the owner of the building. The smart meter has recently been installed!
    I called the energy provider immediately and they said it cannot be removed.
    I called the ombudsman for energy and she merely said she will pass on the complaint to my energy provider.
    The provider told me NSW will make smart meters mandatory anyway for the whole state starting Dec 2017 so they will not remove my smart meter.

    With a quick google search I found this to be false – it will only be NEW homes that will require smart meters after 2017. Existing homes will be legally able to refuse smart meters after this date.

    I am now very anxious to know what my rights are to demand the removal of my smart meter considering i did not give consent. I need to know what my rights are. If my tenants – who also do not want the meter and are temporary and should not have the power to say what goes on my home – did not receive the notice, do I have a case?? How can I find out the provider’s or govt legislation on this? Should I pay for a visit to a lawyer?

    Time is critical because if this takes moths, and Dec 101 passes, then there is NO chance I will get my meter replaced.

    ANY ADVICE??

    Thank you!

    • Tanya says:

      Oren, well done; you have done your research and I believe you are right. I feel you have a right to demand the removal of the smart meter and I agree with you that time is critical. I have heard of a case in South Australia where a woman demanded the removal of her smart meter and succeeded. Such successes don’t come often but maybe that’s because the ‘sheeple’ don’t demand their rights. Victoria has been a tougher case, but non-mandated states should find it easier.

      Yeh, you could see a lawyer but personally I would resent having to spend my money to stop greedy power companies from doing the wrong thing. Ray Broomhall is a Tasmanian lawyer with some knowledge in the area of ElectroMagnetic Radiation. Not sure if you want to be using the services of someone so far from home.

      Have you contacted Peter at http://www.emraware.com/ ? He is a wealth of knowledge in all aspects of EMR and may have more knowledge on the specifics of NSW’s smart meter rollout.

      What might also be helpful for you is to find out if the meter has a communications card, which is what transmits wirelessly An EMR meter costing about $150 would assist in this. However, it is possible that there is a communications card in the smart meter but it has not yet been (remotely) activated. And besides all this, whether the meter is transmitting wirelessly or not, it causes dirty electricity, which is another cause of ill health.

    • Scott says:

      I had a dumb digital meter installed with my solar upgrade in Oct 2016 ( I was extremely happy up to that point), Then a letter from Red Energy they wanted to replace meter with smart meter unless you contacted them to ‘opt out’. I thought I had opted out, but found a smart meter installed 9 Feb. I demanded the old meter to be reinstalled immediately. Guess what It’s under investigation, no resolve, ombusman – no power, Energy minister – no balls, registered letters to Red – no response. I am now an unhappy man, a very unhappy man. Sent an email to Ray Hadley yesterday, sick of the BS. We seem to have no rights.

  9. Tanya says:

    Currently on SBS on demand there is a series titled, ‘Morgan Spurlock; inside man’. Series 4, Episode 2 is titled ‘Toxins’. The primary focus of the program is on chemicals, but there is a substantial section on EMFs. If you can’t view it online, then the series might be available for purchase.

  10. Happy Dissenter says:

    “Electricity companies not doing enough for customer facing financial hardship: counsellors”
    September 7, 2016

    ENERGY companies are being slammed for giving vulnerable customers only three months to settle their bills before they are cut off, financial counsellors say.
    A report out today reveals more than 1000 Victorians were disconnected from gas or electricity services every week last year.
    Peter Gartlan, director of the Financial and Consumer Rights Council, said AGL, Origin and Energy Australia needed to do more for customers in “long-term financial hardship”.
    He said Victoria had the highest rate of disconnected customers in Australia, with 56,000 people cut off last year.
    “Every work day, 215 vulnerable Victorians are disconnected from electricity and gas which is a national disgrace,” Mr Gartlan said.
    “The expectation placed on hardship customers by retailers to rectify their billing situation in just three months is not realistic.
    “We are still seeing cases of hardship customers being placed on unrealistic payment plans.”
    Mr Gartlan said the State Government needed to make it easier to access the utility relief grant scheme, which provides financial relief to energy consumers at risk of disconnection.
    AGL spokeswoman Felicity Nuttall said the company had launched a financial counselling hotline to fast-track calls to hardship specialists and partnered with Kildonan UnitingCare to increase available financial counselling support to customers in need.
    Origin Energy’s general manager of retail Jon Briskin said: “We welcome the FCRC Report and we will continue to work with the financial counselling sector to improve our services and ensure our hardship programs remain responsive to those customers most in need.”

    • geoffrey says:

      has anyone else noticed that their power bills are getting a lot more expensive with the analogue meters still installed compared to those with digital meters? is this the new tactic to force holdouts to switch?

  11. matt says:

    I have the old analogue meter at home and I need a new connection line to go to my house as the old line has metal appearing from the outside. Is their a way I can get it replaced without having to get a smart meter?

    • Anonymous says:

      Matt, you don’t have to legally accept a smart meter, that does not mean they won’t try. Get everything in writing for starters and the name of the person that you can reply to. Trespassing is a crime and you can warn them not to mention or even try to install a smart meter on your property.
      Trespass is defined by the act of knowingly entering another person’s property without permission.
      Have you sent a notice of trespass into the distributor for starters?
      They have templates on the internet, if you have and they try anything then it may constitute trespass and then you can legally do something about it.
      Under Tort Law, a property owner may bring a Civil Law suit against a trespasser in order to recover damages or receive compensatory relief for injury suffered as a direct result of a trespass. you can sue for damages for trespassing but first you need to make sure you have signs up, like private property keep out or do not install a smart meter or just a simple no trespassing sign. Take photos of these signs and you can send them with your notice so they are aware they you have clear trespassing signs up, this might not stop them but you should have them.Anyone that enters your property without consent can be a trespasser. If they do bring up smart meters, then make sure you ask them to leave the property as they will be trespassing, if they are coming to fix your connection then this has nothing to do with a smart meter but it won’t stop them either.
      The analogue meter is not old, it depends what your definition of old is. You have trespass and you can look up trespass cases and put them in your letter. You can also ask them to stop harassing you if that is what you think they are doing. I am not sure what else i can advise, your best option is trespassing as you can sue for damages even if they do not damage your property it’s still trespass if you have sent in a legal notice of trespass and kept a copy for yourself.
      You also need to ask for identification this is important as they won’t give you the name afterwards. I would film them as well.

    • Anonymous says:

      Matt, my neighbour had the line from the power pole to his home changed.he got a letter from the distributor, only they did not put in writing they have to check the analogue meter afterwards before turning on the power. he was not home his mother was and they tried to unscrew the meter, they couldn’t so they checked the fuse box and turned the power on. They mentioned the meter was old, so stop saying your meter is old. Anyhow my neighbour is going to take this matter further if he can, as they did not state they were going to enter his property or check the meter. So make sure you get every little detail in writing.You can them warn them not to bring up smart meters and list the penalties if they do, like trespassing, harassment or whatever you want.
      Don’t ever underestimate these people, just make sure you have everything in place so if anything happens you can legally do something. Full name for starters and they have to produce I.D on request. Film them if you can. Just be aware. They have to replace the line.

      • matty says:

        Thanks buddy that’s what i wanted to know. Well the meter board is locked so they didn’t try anything last time when arrived i just got the “we could not install your smart meter today please call xxxx ” card. I have the clockface meters but yeah i wasn’t sure what the go was. see how i go 🙂

    • TL says:

      Matt, I have heard that anything on the distributor’s side of the meter can result in them pressuring you to accept a smart meter. So that would include the power line from the power pole to your house and the mains wiring from the attachment to the house to where the meter is located. As far as any wiring between the meter and the switchboard is concerned I’m not so sure; you might be safe there.

      Now, not all electricians tell this same version, so you might hear different stories out there and which one is correct I cannot vouch for. And it is simply a bullying tactic on the part of the distributors to claim that you need a smart meter if you get new wiring from the street to the house. There’s no logic in that and I’d be more inclined to think that a new smart meter would necessitate replacing the wiring either side of it rather than the other way around. But like the power companies would be up for that!

      If the distributor is responsible for the ‘faulty’ wiring then photograph it for evidence and warn them that they will be held responsible for any damage it causes to your property. Your safety from damaged wiring should not be contingent upon you accepting a surveillance device upon your property. Would they accept it if we refused to pay our bills unless they allowed us to install a ticking time-bomb on their property?

    • Dancer says:

      Matt, a late response for you here. Just keep your meter box locked. Only open it when you’re feeling 105% assured that they won’t attempt to change the meter. The problem is the wire, not the meter. And you know what Matt, it doesn’t apply in your case but even if the problem were the meter, the advice is the same. An smart meter is not acceptable under any circumstance.

  12. Sick Of Their Lies says:

    I recently received one of the new “Telstra Gateway Max” modems but I haven’t been in a real hurry to install it as yet. I need to research it a little more before I set it up, and as requested, return my older one. I am happy that it has an actual Wi-Fi on/off button on it, as the Netgear one I’ve been using for the last few years never had a designated button on it, instead you had to turn the modem Wi-Fi off via the computer software, which wasn’t an obvious, straightforward process. In fact originally I had to ring Telstra to guide me through the steps involved.
    Unfortunately though, most of the public won’t ever be turning their Wi-Fi buttons off, as they are obsessed with Wi-Fi, love Wi-Fi, can’t get enough Wi-Fi, and think it’s the greatest thing out.
    I don’t share their enthusiasm for this unproven, potentially unsafe, dangerous technology, and try to avoid it wherever and whenever possible.
    Once everyone in my neighbourhood has their new Telstra modems set-up, I can imagine it will be a sick, hazardous, sea of microwave radiation that I’ll be expected to live in, whether I like it or not.
    What a sad world we live in now.

    Question….
    Once I turn the Wi-Fi off on this new Gateway Max modem via the Wi-Fi On/Off push button, is this making the unit “”safe” to use, or is there something else I still need to worry about with this new unit, in regards to the way it works, and my own personal safety?

    • Stop Smart Meters Australia says:

      Telsta’s new Gateway Max modem actually contains two wireless transmitters. One for the home user to use which can be disabled and the second one for creating a public hotspot that cannot be disabled. This can be validated with an EMR meter. There is no user configurable option available to turn off the Public Wifi hot spot. I would suggest you keep your original modem.

      • Sick Of Their Lies says:

        Thankyou very much for this information.

        I knew there was something more sinister about these new Telstra Gateway Max Modems that they’re not telling us about.
        There should be an Official Warning shipped with the modem, stating what you’ve mentioned above.
        The idea of turning my home into a Public Wi-Fi Hotspot without my consent, is sinister in the extreme.
        To have a Wi-Fi button that can turned off, giving me the impression I’ve safeguarded myself (and my family), when really I haven’t, borders on criminal.

        The public really need to be made aware of what’s really going on here……It’s absolutely Disgraceful!

        Unfortunately, Telstra has advised me my previous modem won’t work after 16th August.
        The Gateway Max (imum Wi-Fi…even when switched off) is the only modem they approve/supply to their Cable customers.

        • Sick Of Their Lies says:

          Found this interesting thread online regarding the Telstra Gateway Max modem…..and it’s seriously not good news for those of us who actually care about our health, and the health of our families.

          Seems like quite a number of people have discovered that after switching off/ turning off/ deactivating the Wi-Fi on their Telstra Gateway Max modems, the EMR levels that still emit from this wretched unit are basically the same as if the Wi-Fi was still turned on. There’s no difference, and you cannot turn it off. You can definitely toggle through the Wi-Fi On/Off button and turn the 2.4GHz and 5Ghz LED’s off “BELIEVING” you have switched the Wi-Fi off, but only after you put an RF Meter near it can you verify this isn’t the case at all……and the levels are massive!
          Unsure where to from here, as this is the only modem Telstra approves, that is available to work for their “Cable” customers.
          Very disturbing finding, and very misleading by Telstra.

          We should all be very concerned.

          https://crowdsupport.telstra.com.au/t5/Modems-Hardware/can-i-turn-off-the-wi-fi-with-with-a-telstra-gateway-max-modem/td-p/488711

          • Anonymous says:

            I dunno if we have the same modem, but my modem has a on/off button at the back. So what I do every night when I go to bed i turn the whole modem off,and also turn off my wireless phone that roams for the modem. Then in the morning I turn both back on. This means however I can’t be contacted during this time by the landline connection but this is a small price to pay.

        • Vicky says:

          I also read that even if you don’t have a smart meter installed- you get the effects of everyone elses smart meters- the neighborhood. We have to do something to stop this- I’m going to ‘change.org’ to see if there are any petitions to sign against this.

    • Tanya says:

      Thanks SSMA moderator for your advice. I’ve also been reading about the ethernet cables and I believe CAT 7 are the safest type to use. Not sure how easy it is to find CAT 7 type cables in Australian computer stores.

  13. geoffrey says:

    You are no longer allowed to see smart meter plans
    from jim stone freelance journalist
    http://82.221.129.208/ifyouareinamericayouprobablycantseethisaa5.html

    No kidding. A Washington State court sued a man for posting smartmeter documents the state gave him to begin with, and flirted with terrorism charges.

    From The Register:

    “Mocek was given a mix of unredacted and redacted documents by the city, the meter makers complained, whereas he should only have received and published files they had censored. Seattle officials said they were not skilled enough to know for sure which parts to redact, so left it to the suppliers to edit the files, yet unredacted information managed to make its way into Mocek’s hands and onto the internet.

    Landis+Gyr and Sensus promptly sued the city, Mocek and Muckrock, and filed for an injunction: ultimately, the suppliers wanted the documents taken down, and the unredacted copies banned from public view.

    On Thursday, a temporary restraining order was granted by the King County Superior Court in Washington and Muckrock founder Michael Morisy confirmed the unredacted documents have been taken down pending the outcome of the case.

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/27/phil_mocek_seattle_smart_meters/

    NOTHING TO HIDE???

  14. Ellie says:

    I am interested in selling my home within 3kms from CBD in Melbourne for the market price. I have fought long to retain my good old analogue meter….and am hesitant to pass it on…just for the next person to allow a Smart Meter installation (!!!). One next-door neighbour still has an analogue…but we’re the only two in the whole block. Particularly people from interstate may be interested…as it’s a rarity to find a home in Victoria without one of these beasts.

  15. Snowy says:

    Of interest to anyone with survival instincts.

    This Nixon guy was military, special ops, extremely fit, died “mysteriously”, “untimely”

    Smart Grid. An Explanation For The Layman or.
    How Smart Grid Will Affect Your Life
    by V Nixon

    magneigh.blogspot.com/2014_06_01_archive.html

    http://www.stopthecrime.net/BPL.pdf

    https://sandaura.wordpress.com/

    https://sandaura.wordpress.com/2010/06/05/evidence-of-microwave-pollution-in-our-communities/

  16. Let's Get Real about RF says:

    I just noticed that an event titled “Wireless Radiation, Children and Safety” is happening on 10 May: https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/wireless-radiation-children-and-safety-tickets-24335079879

    It looks really interesting. Plus you can take in wireless devices to have tested. It’s been organised by the Sutherland Shire Environment Centre (southern region of Sydney).

  17. Not happy says:

    We installed solar panels on our property recently. A week later a Powercor representative came to inspect the installation and informed us that we need to put a smart meter on, which I promptly declined. The solar power was switched on by the sparkies prior, and the Powercor rep (who was quite nice about it) left saying I would have problems with head office. The solar has been working so well that our analogue meter has spun back way past our last meter reading.
    Our next bill came back as an estimated bill (much higher than normal) and apon enquiry, was told that unless we get a smart meter all our future bills will be estimated. This is despite our excess solar feeding into the grid ‘free of charge’ and us self consuming all our daylight power. We are probably only using 3 KW of power a night but generating way more in return. I told them I want an actual reading (which I can see on my meter) but they refuse to use that data. I told them I am happy to pay for the service charges to be connected to the grid, but I refuse to have an estimate bill.
    The only options are going off grid or excepting a smart meter?

    • Peter says:

      Hi Not happy. South Australia (I’m not sure about the other states) fit none ‘smart meters’ to customers with solar power and they work well, so why can’t the same be done here in Victoria? (Are we being victimised for living in the wrong state?) There is NO LAW forcing Victorian distributors to install these devises, it is entirely THEIR CHOICE! The law states, they are TO CONTINUE TO ACT IN GOOD FAITH AND DO WHAT IS REASONABLY NECCESSARY TO INSTALL A REMOTELY READ INTERVAL METER, nothing more! It does not give them the right to coerce or bully a customer into accepting their choice of meter. Your meter can be read, it is their choice to refuse to read the meter. Ask Powercor how much electricity they ‘estimate’ they have received from you; but have not credited you with.
      Also, ask the Essential Services Commission Incorp[orated if Powercor is complying with the relevant legislation as written, in your case, the ESC Inc is responsible for ensuring that distributors comply with legislation.
      If Powercor refuse to comply with my suggestion in my Oct 25th comment, again ask the ESC Inc if Powercor is complying with legislation, but if the ESC Inc are unhelpful, I suspect they will try to side step the issue, I suggest you go off grid and tell your distributor to put their ‘surveillance and control device’ where the sun don’t shine.
      I believe the only way to make the distributors sit up and listen to their ‘valued customers’, is to hit their hip pocket.
      If you are happy to try these suggestions, I suggest you make and receive all enquiries and responses IN WRITING, do not accept phone calls regarding this issue! If they try to phone, say you will only accept WRITTEN replies.
      I am sure many readers would be very interested to hear what Powercor and the ESC Inc have to say for themselves.

      • A.N.E. Mouse says:

        Surprisingly, there is no lawful power for agents (‘public servants’) of corporations doing business as ‘governments’ to force anything on anyone. EG. COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA is a corporation registered on the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in Washington (search it). Like any business, hamburger joint etc, all such corpses (they are not living entities, just titles or ‘legal fictions’) can only, via agents, make offers. Dumb meter installations are offers, until we unknowingly and unwittingly contract and accept the offer (supposed benefit), at which time it can be argued (incorrectly) that we have to proceed. However, for any contract to be lawful, it must have many aspects, especially full disclosure, which no offer from such aforementioned agents ever has. This is the same for similar offers such as for taxes, licences, summons, registrations, fines etc.

        This is all to do with commerce: offer and counter offer. When one gets an offer, anyone who knows real law would nearly always quickly respond with a counter offer, via a Notice and Affidavit – to the individual, not the corporation title. This requires the ‘offeror’ to respond by sworn affidavit within say 10 days under their full commercial liability and penalty for perjury. This is simply how truth is told in commerce. Consider Prime Ministers before elections. People don’t really treat their promises as being true, do they? If you wanted to know their truth, would it not be wise to ask them to make the statement in an affidavit? If they refuse, have they not answered your question? This is an administrative process and, If they do not correctly respond, you have the basis of a contract: their tacit agreement with what you have written/offered. To comprehend this, search ‘commercial maxims’ and learn the remarkable power of affidavits and contracts.

        Best not to be upset by any of this. It is just part of a grand adventure and spiritual experience. The end result is that we will know who we are and will always come from love. Never from fear, revenge etc. Always, instead of communication fear to people, communicate love. This is not just the fastest way to change ourselves and our world. It’s the only way.

        Have a look at the 5 minute animated youtube video ‘meet your strawman’. An excellent website in oz is larry hannigan. Just search that name. This may begin your study of what the law really is and give you knowledge to be used in thousands of agreements (contracts) we involve ourselves in. A superb site in America is creditors in commerce where you can download free 3 day conferences. When you have this knowledge, not only will you be able to assist friends, family, colleagues, neighbours etc., you can save tens or hundreds of thousands of $’s. This wonderful learning may take many months or years. And you do need to know what you are doing with these matters, particularly when doing business with ‘government’.

        Enjoy!

    • Anonymous says:

      Ask Powercor what happens if the smart meter makes you sick or gives you cancer? Does that mean that people that have EHS can’t have solar panels because then they would have to have possible cancer causing transmitter?
      you need to look up the electricity code and law to find out what you can use. I highly doubt that you have to have a smart meter, but you need to do some research first, then put all this in writing.Does it say anywhere that you have to have a smart meter if you install solar panels?
      Is it law?
      It has to specifically say smart meter.
      Ask them to provide documentation to prove what they have said, if they can’t then they are just lying and trying to mislead you.
      Other states don’t have this issue. I am assuming that they were told to use Best Endeavours. Look this up as well. If they were, this is not law and they cannot use this against you.Ask for a copy of the law stating that you have to have a smart meter if you have solar panels. I don’t think this exists, because then this then makes them liable.

      • fiona says:

        Besides any smart meter issue, if you have EHS I would suggest you stay away from solar panels due to the inverter. These provide high levels of radiation. Solar with 12volt wiring which does not require an inverter may be okay?

    • Solar Wise says:

      Hi Not happy

      According to the Energy and Water Ombudsman of Victoria the distributor is obligated to read your meter once per year; this means three out of four bills can be estimated.

      Be aware, however, that it’s not only smart meters that cause problems. Solar also has its dark side. The inverters spew out heaps of dirty electricity (high frequencies going into the radiofrequency range). These frequencies get on all household wiring (even if the inverter is located away from the house) and radiate out via the air and earth. Filtering can be used to eliminate them, but it’s an expensive exercise, and not always advisable.

      Solar voltaic cells also, not surprisingly, keep generating electricity when exposed to light, even if the system has been switched off. This is a disaster in a fire situation; no fire fighter is going to risk their life by squirting water onto your roof if it’s covered in solar panels. Even the brightness of flames or lights on emergency vehicles gives the solar voltaic cells enough illumination for them to do their thing.

    • Snowy says:

      Dear Not Happy:
      Just my thoughts as someone who finally woke up one morning and realized that defraying a bill with panels is not enough, that they still threatened to disconnect me unless a smart meter was tied to those panels to middle man the power I generate which they send to my neighbour at virtually no cost to themselves.
      That was when I realized that total grid defection was the wonderful solution to end a discordant relationship with a utility which consistently fails to act in good faith and violates contract law over and over again. This “marriage” with a utility corporation and its ties to the government will only continue to deteriorate.
      Why?
      The smart grid is a war against self sufficiency.
      The utilities will use solar panels and call this green while they continue to lobby against solar rights for customers so that they will never have to let you go independent.
      This is no different than a relationship between a junkie and a crack dealer.
      Customers everywhere may not be electricity junkies but we are certainly being treated that way.
      The writing is on the wall. Time to leave, if at all possible. The abuse will only get worse. Get a divorce.
      Being grid tied and making the meter run backwards may seem cheaper in the short run, but how does one measure the cost of the stress factor and blackmail. Essentially they are saying either you put yourself in harm’s way or we will coerce you with disconnect unless you agree to a dangerous device.
      Additionally, when it comes to stand alone solar, inverters are now very sophisticated, and further innovations for stand alone systems are unfolding rapidly, including all kinds of energy storage solutions.
      Think about it: If anyone with solar panels leaves out an energy storage system or inverter to tide the home over during the evenings or early mornings and to offer independence for any eventuality, then these ‘solar panel only’ customers are still potentially just as vulnerable as is anyone who has no solar panels.
      As soon as any sustained power outage happens for any reason whatsoever, solar panels on their own can end up almost useless, since they go down with the grid, unless one has them set up on a separate system with a parallel service panel, and unless one either has some means of energy storage and/or you also rise and set with the sun.
      Further, it has become obvious that all forms of dependency are under assault, and the days of affordable centralized electricity or water or gas are over. It was a fine run while it lasted but that era is pretty much gone.
      Don’t become a “thing”. Get out of the IoT Internet of Things matrix while the going is good and while long life sealed gel or sand or salt or nickel iron or lithium or other wonderful batteries and pure (NOT modified) sine wave inverters are to be found. Then wrap the entire system in uncoated aluminium insect screening and get a whole house sine wave tracking harmonics attenuation device like sine tamer, so that your solar system will be emf controlled and will not re-radiate emr back to your array.
      Oil companies are already buying up non Asian solar panel companies in order to reverse the dramatically lowered price of panels and the new solar affordability, to foil this option for the little guy who has seen the light, so to speak and just wants off this wireless train to hell.
      One does not want to find oneself up the creek without batteries come the day some fourteen year geek old hacks in and collapses power supply, which is dead easy to do now that the grid is digital, poorly encrypted and ripe for hacking by anyone, teen, terrorist, government or utility. (bit of conspiracy there)
      Batteries at that point are not going continue to be easy to get hold of, nor readily for sale if/once any degree of energy chaos begins unfolding, if there IS a protracted outage following a grid hack. And check it out, such hacks are happening right now, many times a day, but it is kept hush hush.
      Grid tied, grid shackled, umbilically tied to your provider, call it what you will, this choice is still predicated on a few mythological, enduring and mostly misplaced assumptions, such as
      – that the electrical grid will always be reliable,
      – that smart meters will always be optional
      – that bills will remain affordable,
      – that gas and water smart meters will not follow
      – that smart meters are insurable (just ask Lloyd’s of London, no, not insurable since 2010),
      – that “smart” equipment is safe,
      – that a fire will not occur
      – that your will not be held liable for anything that goes wrong with what they force you to accept
      – that the grid will never be hacked or breached,
      – that utilities will respect customer health and privacy,
      – that there will never be a sustained power outage which may go on for days, weeks, months, or longer.
      All of those assumptions are patently false.

      • Snowy says:

        PS For whole house power, there is also a new type of generator just coming on market which could work in tandem with energy storage. Sweden offers this unique multi-fuel hot air bio- generator, small, portable, performs well in extreme conditions, Stirling engine, 80 dec, handles 5000 k, accommodates up to 10,000 k of surge, has its own inverter. It is called the Genious.
        inresol.se

    • G says:

      Received a letter from Jemena regarding “Interruption to electricity Supply”.
      Work to be done: Service Rectification
      On the day they arrived they came onto private property and decided to replace the wiring from the pole to the house. Then they required parents to open up locked meter box along with fuse box. I was not home at the time so they were dealing with my parents while I was on the phone to them. Next thing they were trying to remove analogue meter stating a standard “safety test” requires them to remove analogue. Fortunately they could not remove it for some reason. One of the workers decided to harass and coerce parents by stating “that is an old meter and needs replacing”. Again parents stated you are not to replace with any other meter. They left peacefully.

      My questions:
      Does this notice for “Service rectification” imply they have the authority to enter private property? It would appear there is no proper and accepted notice for entering private property, only interruption of electricity. If this is simply true it would imply trespass under law of tort.

    • Sherry says:

      We’re in a similar situation, had solar installed 3 years ago and still have my analogue meter and have it locked. Had a letter on Friday from SPAusnet with some forms to fill out for the solar so that they could install what they called a “Solar Meter”. I called them, they told me they don’t send out the letters…it was on their letterhead. Long story short, I argued with her, told her I would never allow them to install a Smart Meter, she told me I had no choice and that because my meter spins backwards during the day I am breaking the law as they consider that to be stealing power. I lost my cool, told her to take me to court and hung up. We’re now looking at costs for going off grid.

    • Christine Crawford says:

      Power cor is banging on about us getting a smart meter.We’ve said
      “no”. We have solar going through our analogue meter. Their latest ploy is
      to get an export limiter installed onto the solar. We would like to have
      more info re this bit of new techno. (Including its cost). Their other ploy
      is to install a sm and put an antenna on the roof to “deflect the wi fi”. (
      A bit of a misnomer, because I thought the wifi on a sm was minimal- ha
      ha).
      Mrs Spitting Chips

    • Christine Crawford says:

      Power cor is banging on about us getting a smart meter.We’ve said
      “no”. We have solar going through our analogue meter. Their latest ploy is
      to get an export limiter installed onto the solar. We would like to have
      more info re this bit of new techno. (Including its cost). Their other ploy
      is to install a sm and put an antenna on the roof to “deflect the wi fi”. (
      A bit of a misnomer, because I thought the wifi on a sm was minimal- ha
      ha). Spitting Chips

    • Peter Graus says:

      I had solar panels installed and unsuspecting me let them put in a smart meter. I’m getting on to my local MP to see what can be done as I would like to go back to an analogue meter. How did you go with your problem?

  18. Anonymous says:

    united energy have a new trick they are now saying they have to do sampling of meteres between dec 3to 24dec and power will be turned off for 20 mins ,{the same time it takes to change a meter} so if you get a letter as i have call and say you wont be home as i have and have it cancelled.john

    • Peter says:

      Hi Anon, keep us informed on this one?

    • Anonymous says:

      Someone else got a letter from United Energy stating that they wanted to test the accuracy of the meter. Yours sounds different Anon. They are obviously sending different letters out. Don’t be surprised if the rest of them start doing the same.
      I suppose they have to show they are still fulfilling part of their contract. The Politicians are still responsible for any harm and they should be held accountable all of them. Everyone that was involved in this rollout.
      I think everyone now needs to be aware that the others will probably send out similar rubbish in the next few months.

  19. Peter says:

    This Australian Government document confirms that Australia and Victoria in particular has been and is being used; as a testing ground for so called ‘smart meter’ technology. In other words, we are being used as guinea pigs purely for financial gain for corporate businesses without any scientific reference to the medical or other effects of this technological experiment!!!!!!!!

    http://www.austrade.gov.au/international/invest/opportunities/success-stories/Landis-Gyr-finds-smart-solutions-in-Australia

  20. Jon says:

    My name is Jon and I am selling my house that still has the old analogue meter. I have had a lock on it for quite some time and have had no problems with the distributor. The area is Endeavour Hills so if anyone is interested you can contact Hall and Partners Endeavour Hills and ask for Alex or for any other details about the meter you can contact me directly on 0437021823.

  21. smart meter sufferer says:

    Five bedroom house for sale in Rosebud: No smart meter.
    If interested please contact SSMA’s contact us email address and pass on your details.

  22. JoeM says:

    Multinet Time expired gas meter change program:

    I received a letter from multinet today informing me that my gas meter was due for replacement.
    The letter also said: “Please note this is not the electricity smart meter”

    Does anyone know if multinet are lying?
    Do the new meters have wireless capabilities?
    Can i refuse just like i did with the electricity smart meter?

    • once bitten, twice shy says:

      Joe,
      There was no end of lies from the electricity distributors about the electricity smart meters. Would you expect honesty from the gas and water authorities, especially when the gas authorities can be the same as the electricity authority (eg Ausnet can be a gas distributor as well as electricity distributor)?
      I have taken steps to secure my gas meter and water meter. For most people this will probably involve a purpose built enclosure or bracket attaching the meter to a nearby wall or fence. But you need to ensure the meter’s shut off valve can still be quickly accessed in an emergency. I’m not saying this is all fine by the distributor. I’m just saying that they don’t care about your health, so why should you care about them being able to sack their meter readers so they can cut costs while charging you extra to have one of these wonderful new ‘smart’ meters that you didn’t even want in the first place?
      Amongst my immediate neighbours there are 3 different types of gas meter in 7 properties. This suggests that the gas meters were all installed at different times as the need arose. If now, all of a sudden, everyone in the neighbourhood is about to be given the same type of gas meter, shouldn’t that raise suspicions? Have your neighbours been told that they also are getting a new gas meter?
      I am of the opinion that the electricity smart meters and their infrastructure first had to be installed in order for smart gas and smart water meters to tap into that infrastructure.

      see https://stopsmartmeters.com.au/2015/06/08/beware-silent-installation-of-smart-water-and-gas-meters/

    • Anonymous says:

      Ask Multinet to give a guarantee in writing that the gas meter is not wireless compatible and also is not a wireless device, or better still send them a registered letter and inform them that they only have permission to place an analogue gas meter on your private property, and if they try anything else they may be charged with trespassing. Make sure you do it soon and get a return receipt. You have to make them aware they could be breaking the law if they go against your wishes.

    • Carolyn. says:

      yeah I have a similar issue. Essential energy put an EM500 without my permission or knowledge. In a rage I rang them up and they assured me that it was NOT a smart meter. I’m wondering if it does what a smart meter does without the name? Anyone know?

  23. geoffrey says:

    stop smart meters uk speaker mike mitcham talks about the internet of things and how smart meters are the hub of this brave new world of big data. and i bet new pm turncoat turnball the tratorious talmudic technophile just loves the smartmeter and will allow them via the tpp to deploy oz wide.

    http://www.ukcolumn.org/ukcolumn-news/uk-column-news-27th-october-2015

  24. Peter says:

    I posted this info way back in October 2013,(and a couple of times since) on the ‘forum’ page, yet it seems that rather than challenge the distributors and getting a none remote, privacy invasion, dangerous, ‘surveillance devise’, people are quite happy to continue complaining. I have not read of ANYONE pursuing this legal challenge.

    Electricity Customer Metering Code 6.1 states quite clearly, that a customer can request ‘a type of metering equipment which is different from the type the distributor or retailer, (whichever is responsible for providing the metering services) would otherwise install’, etc.(6.1(b)) (in the case for Victoria, a ‘smart meter’) the distributor, ‘must use its reasonable endeavours to install that type of metering equipment within 20 business days’. (6.1(d) but you must be prepared to bear the cost of the installation of the new meter, 6.1(b) and (c)

    • Mr X says:

      Peter,

      I take it you have personal experience with employing both these strategies and that is why you are advising others to follow your lead. I take it that these strategies worked well for you.

      • Anonymous says:

        Mr X, i don’ think Peter is telling anyone this strategy will work, he is giving people information. It is up to the individual to understand things and be comfortable with what they want to do.
        This might work and it might not, but its better to try then just give up. If this does not work then you find something else and keep on going. Its all depends on what you want.
        I don’t believe one strategy necessarily works, it could be many. Its time consuming and frustrating. It could make things worse or it could fix the problem.

      • Peter says:

        I have not had to try this strategy, as have not had one of these ‘surveillance and control devices’ fitted to my home! I locked my meter box, put up the signs and informed my distributor that they are not to fit one of their devices to my home UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES! I still have my trusty old analogue meter. As Anon says, I am providing an avenue that to date, nobody has tried, of course, the distributors will try and fight this legislation, but if you do not try you will never know.

  25. Tanya says:

    I heard Nick Xenophon say on the radio news today that someone needs to tell big business (such as Volkswagen) to stop misleading the public about the benefits of their product. Ok Nick, you are in the perfect position to tell Australian (though largely foreign owned) electricity distributors to stop misleading Australians about the supposed benefits of smart meters.

    And then while you are at it, Nick, tell the various levels of government in Australia to stop misleading the public about the benefits of smart meters, to stop evading responsibility for this smart meter debacle, and to quit telling various authorities to cover up the damage that has been done by smart meters, not to mention other disasters that the government was responsible for taking control of.

  26. geoffrey says:

    Olle Johansson at the Open Mind Conference 2014, Copenhagen.

    “Health effects of electromagnetic fields” Olle Johansson is associate professor at the Experimental Dermatology Unit, Department of Neuroscience, Karolinska Institutet, Stockholm, Sweden.

    He is a leading authority in the field of EMF radiation and health effects. He has also been a professor in basic and clinical neuroscience at the Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm.

    He has published more than 650 original articles, reviews, book chapters and conference reports within the field of basic and applied neuroscience, dermatoscience and health effects of electromagnetic fields.

    His studies have been widely recognised in the media, including newspapers, radio and TV, as well as on the Internet, both nationally and internationally. He has on-going international scientific collaborations with e.g. Japan, Brazil, South Africa, Serbia, Germany, the UK and the USA.

    Olle Johansson’s presentation covers the historic background of electricity and electromagnetic fields, how suspicions arose early on concerning fields and signals producing negative health effects and how this led to today’s global public discussion about the subject. It will also touch upon the functional impairment electro hypersensitivity.

    The lecture will go into depth about the scientific research results regarding the health effects of electromagnetic fields and the urgent need for independent research projects that need to be initiated to ensure our public health.

    These projects should be entirely independent of all types of commercial interests as public health cannot have a price-tag. This is the responsibility of the democratically elected body of every country.

    The body of evidence on EMF requires a new approach to protection of public health; the growth and development of the fetus, and of children; and argues for strong preventative actions. These conclusions are built upon prior scientific and public health reports documenting the following:

    1) Low-intensity (non-thermal) bioeffects and adverse health effects are demonstrated at levels significantly below existing exposure standards.

    2) ICNIRP and IEEE/FCC public safety limits are inadequate and obsolete with respect to prolonged, low-intensity exposures.

    3) New, biologically-based public exposure standards are urgently needed to protect public health world-wide. 4) It is not in the public interest to wait.

    http://www.openmindconference.com

  27. A says:

    Please read my statement. If you like it – send to your state or federal MP. Local or main newspaper. Or just distribute.

    My native language is not English, so some odd wording or grammar may happen. I apologize for this.

    I would like to make public submission about some issues related to the so-called “Advanced Metering Infrastructure Project” (AMI) or “Smart meters” in Victoria. Official webpage here: http://www.smartmeters.vic.gov.au/
    Problems with project and my ideas about changes in laws are listed below.

    1. AMI project affects people’s property rights.

    At the start, the AMI should give people benefits, but later it became clear – people will pay for it. Link here:
    http://www.smartmeters.vic.gov.au/about-smart-meters/reports-and-consultations/advanced-metering-infrastructure-cost-benefit-analysis/4.-analysis-of-costs-and-benefits-2008-2028

    Over 2008-28, the AMI Program will result in net costs to customers of $319 million. This is a significant change from previous analyses of the AMI Program, the most recent of which suggested that the AMI Program would deliver $775 million in benefits.

    We were supposed to get “benefits”, but as soon as project passed the point of no return, the real price hit our wallets. For me it sounds like an old-fashioned scam and nothing else.
    For strange reasons, not one official investigated these changes in price and who profited from them from the point of view of criminal law. I understand we are talking about huge corporations and top-government officials, but their position does not exclude them the law covering scams and con-men.

    I believe every project like this must be investigated by default. No need for parliament inquiry, mass-media attention or anything like this.
    Just create a law, according to which every project which fails to deliver promised results, must be formally investigated. Experts, authors, politicians who signed it – all must be held responsible and accountable for each and every cent that is spent on failed projects.

    2. AMI project puts our country security at risk.
    There are five distributors of electricity in Victoria. Only one of them (United Energy Distribution) is NOT fully owned by foreigners. Others have at least 51% foreign ownership, usually China/Hong-Kong.
    It may not have been of importance before the AMI project. But one of features of “Smart meters” is crucial: being able to disconnect customer by clicking button on a computer somewhere in an office. So foreign-owned corporations can shutdown all state of Victoria during just a few seconds.

    Police stations, water supply, military installations, airports, hospitals, every house, workshop, factory – all may lose main power supply if distributor’s foreigner owner will “make them an offer they can’t refuse”.

    Also it gives significant possibilities for foreign intelligence services. By monitoring ups and downs in electricity usage of military installations, police stations, anti-terrorist units it can become possible to know about alarms and exercises (in case of alarm usage going up in unusual time).
    If some residential addresses change their usual way of electrical usage every time then lets say, military base, have changes in usage – it means these consumers have something to do with this particular military base. By statistical analysis addresses and names of military personnel, police officers, intelligence officers may be established.
    Because most distributors are foreign-owned this scenario is not purely fictional.

    Can our law can stop it from happening? As far as I know, no.

    Victorian Electricity Distributors ownership:

    Powercor Australia and Citipower: Their ownership is divided between Cheung Kong Infrastructure (Hong Kong), Power Assets Holdings (Hong Kong) and Spark Infrastructure (Hong Kong). Cheung Kong Infrastructure and Power Assets Holdings, which are members of the Cheung Kong Group of companies, hold a 51 per cent stake in the business. The Cheung Kong Group is based in Hong Kong.

    Ausnet Services: Publicly listed company, owned by Singapore Power International 31%, State Grid Corporation (China) 20%.

    United Energy Distribution: DUET Group still owns 66 per cent of UE, with Singapore Power International holding the remaining shares.

    Jemena: SGSPAA, branded as Jemena for its operations within Australia, is an Australian energy infrastructure company. It is jointly owned by State Grid Corporation of China and Singapore Power.
    3. New tax was introduced by only two people without informing public about it.
    AMI project was introduced by TWO people only: minister and governor through some “Orders in Council”. It is example one of these Orders:
    http://www.gazette.vic.gov.au/gazette/Gazettes2008/GG2008S314.pdf
    There are only 2 signatures: A minister and a clerk.
    Currently every house, office, workshop in Victoria pays about $125 per year for 8 years to finance AMI. In practice it means a new tax was created to support foreign-owned private companies and this tax was created by TWO people!
    The Order is also written in a very odd way, so it is impossible understand what it is all about. As you see authors of new tax did not want to inform people about it.

    I do not want to pay for something which I do not need only because someone in government wanted to make corporations happy (any relations between authors of AMI project and distributors? I have no idea, but it is good topic for investigation).

    I believe it affects my property rights and I believe something is wrong with our political system. Two people cannot be allowed to force 4 millions of Victorian into huge expenses under promises of “benefits” which have never materialized.
    And these two people not just did so, they got away with this, and the majority of the population of Victoria still has no idea why they are paying to foreign-owned corporations for nothing.

    I believe every new tax must be properly discussed in Parliament and public has right to be fully informed about it.

    4. Why I must donate money to foreign-owned corporation?

    I have never heard BP asked their customer to donate them money for new oil drilling platforms.
    I have never heard about Ford asking for new factory at Ford’s cars owners expense.
    But in Victoria exactly this is happening: 5 corporations are upgrading their equipment by forcing their customer to “donate” $125 per year per customer. More, the majority of customers do not know about it.

    At least, may I ask for shares? I believe if I “donate” to them $125 per year for upgrading their equipment I am entitled to have shares for the same amount of money?

    Unfortunately AMI project is 100% legal and I was ripped off “according to the law”. Current laws allow huge corporations (together with their friends-politicians) to steal my money and get away with this.

    5. AMI affects people’s right for privacy and breach Surveillance Devices Act 2004.

    Smart meters inform distributor about usage of electricity on regular intervals, it may happen even every minute. The interval for particular customer may be changed from distributor’s office by clicking on a button on a computer.
    So the distributor may know what time I come home, leave, wake up or go to bed, go away for holiday by watching my electricity usage.
    Smart meters have capabilities of a surveillance device and should be regulated by Commonwealth “Surveillance Devices Act 2004”.
    And in the case of the AMI project, the Act is breached several times. But no one cares about it. And I believe it is very wrong. Because everyone must be equal from the point of view of the law, private persons who illegally spies on his neighbor or huge corporation who spies on customer.
    Distributors claim “all private data is processed according to strict policies and procedures”, but it is just excuse. The Surveillance Devices Act 2004 prohibits the collection of any data unless there is a court warrant, it does not matter how you process it.

    Millions of Victorian houses, offices, workshops have a surveillance device without committing anything wrong and no court allowed distributors to spy on their customers. More: this surveillance data is collected, owned and processed by foreign-owned companies.

    What happens if someone could “hack” the wireless messages encoded with private information without the knowledge of the distributors? It may be not my personal time going to bed. It may be information about member of parliament, top military or intelligence personnel.
    The AMI project has created a danger which was not known in the past: by sending the “right” messages, hackers may be able to shutdown power supply of everyone who belong to the “hacked” distributor, it will be an economical disaster which Australia has never before experienced.

    As far as I know, the system of encoding messages 100% secure does not exist, so hacking is a just a question of time, skills and will.

    Again, all it happening because huge corporations above the law.

    6. Breaching Order in Council conditions and Trespassing.
    Distributors of electricity have the right to trespass to install and maintain electrical equipment. This right was introduced at the start of 20 century, in times of State Electricity Commission of Victoria (SECV). As a result of privatisation the right for trespassing was passed to foreign-owned corporations. It is VERY different story from SECV. And for me in case of AMI distributors went too far with exercising this right.

    Installation of Smart meters is regulated by some Orders in Council, for example 10 December 2013, which tells: each distributor must use its best endeavours to install a complying remotely read interval meter

    According to section 19 DEFINITIONS, ELECTRICITY DISTRIBUTION CODE Victoria, best endeavours in relation to a person, means the person must act in good faith and do what is reasonably necessary in the circumstances.

    Several citizens of Victoria were against installation of Smart meter. They phoned and wrote distributors to tell them about refusal to have Smart meter.
    But distributors did not care and proceed to install them anyway. Locks on meter boxes were cut off, misleading letters, bulling and cheating tactics was used. I know a case where the police was called because a customer threatened electrical contractor with a gun. So police officers restrained the owner of the house to give the electrician the opportunity to install a Smart meter.
    Some people were disconnected from their power supply until they agreed to have Smart meter.
    There is no way that this approach can be described as “act in good faith and do what is reasonably necessary”.

    But no one in the Victorian government had or has any interest in this. As soon as they hear words “I have issues with smart meter” they do the best to find excuses to buck pass your complaint somewhere else or give you a meaningless answer.
    The Energy and Water Ombudsman Victoria is one of them: they pass complaints to the distributor, give a meaningless answer like “smart meters are mandated” and close the case.
    Not one Order in Council related to AMI uses the word “mandated”, not one Order says Smart meters are compulsory, but EWOV prefers to act as though it knows nothing about it.

    Many people have called or written to their distributor about rejection of a Smart meter, they have a sign «No Trespassing», sign on meter box «No smart meter», so proceeding with installation distributors breached not just Order in Council, they breached the SUMMARY OFFENCES ACT 1966 – SECT 9:
    (c) the person enters that place in breach of a prominently displayed sign erected at that place by the owner or occupier or a person authorised to erect such a sign on behalf of the owner or occupier stating that —
    (ii) persons engaging in that place in the type of activity in which the person concerned is proposing to engage in that place are prohibited from entering that place and the person has no other lawful excuse for entering that place.

    I believe something must be done to force distributors to obey the law (relevant Orders in Council and SUMMARY OFFENCES ACT 1966) and force our State government and EWOV to keep an eye on it and take action if the law has been breached.

    7. Do we have “asbestos” scenario coming?
    There is a medical condition which is called “Electromagnetic Hyper Sensitivity” (EHS). It has been known since 1950s. The majority of population does not feel electromagnetic fields as long as they are weak, but there is a minority which feels them. And these people not just “feel”, they suffer in the presence of an electromagnetic field.

    Smart meter emits uncommon and almost not researched kind of wave – pulsing one. There is very limited data available on how pulsing radiation interferes with a living organism. There is some information available and suggests it is more dangerous than “usual”, continuous wave-like radiation, but no big research has been done.
    As soon as distributors started to install smart meters more and more people became sick. They complained to distributors and government bodies, bu the answer was the same “According to the ARPANSA RF standard, Smart meters are safe”.

    I wonder – does the government have no memory? Asbestos also was “safe because standard sad so” for many years. Thalidomide was “safe because research said so”. In the end the truth became known, but how many human’s lives were destroyed?

    Why is no one in government looking into these complains? Why are foreign-owned corporations allowed to install a device which is being claimed to be “safe because standard said so”, despite many public complaints about how it effects people health?

    A very alarming article “Self-Reporting of Symptom Development From Exposure to Radiofrequency Fields of Wireless Smart Meters in Victoria, Australia: A Case Series Federica Lamech, MBBS” was published in 2014.
    And in this study the author claims: “… author of the current study offers the hypothesis that some people can develop symptoms from exposure to the radiofrequency fields of wireless smart meters.” – it means smart meters not just produce wireless radiation which makes life of EHS person uncomfortable, they are much more dangerous – they make previously healthy people hypersensitive to other wireless radiation!

    As far as I know, not one scientific body in Australia took any action about it. ARPANSA does not care, from an “asbestos” point of view they are still living in 1970s “asbestos is safe as long as it below the limit”.
    In the 1970s there was plenty of information suggesting it is not the case, but industry and authors of then existing safety standards did not want to know about it and later they did not hold any responsibility for creating “asbestos safety standard” which made several thousand people sick.
    I believe independent research into Smart meters and how they affect people’s health must be done ASAP.

    Some kind of “alarm bell” system must be created. Which will require a quick reaction to all complaints about everything what is “safe because standard said so”. Asbestos, Thalidomide, Smart meters – they had to be investigated by someone who has NOT declared them safe as soon as first complains were received.

    8. Is ARPANSA standard out of date?
    EHS has been known for many years. But ARPANSA has another point of view:
    http://www.arpansa.gov.au/RadiationProtection/Factsheets/is_ehs.cfm
    “The scientific evidence does not establish that EHS symptoms are caused by exposure to low-level electromagnetic fields.”
    Current ARPANSA Standard (RADIATION PROTECTION STANDARD Maximum Exposure Levels to Radiofrequency Fields — 3 kHz to 300 GHz) does not even mention EHS. It may be good for “John Citizen”, but people who are sensitive to radiation suffer and cannot get any adjustment from companies who own mobile phone towers, smart meters or other sources of radiation. They all answer to public complaints with the same “level of emission is below ARPANSA limit, so everything is OK”.

    In 2004 there was World Health Organisation event in Prague about EHS: http://www.who.int/peh-emf/meetings/hypersensitivity_prague2004/en/

    In 2013 there was a case “McDonald and Comcare” in Administrative Appeals Tribunal of Australia, where EHS was accepted by court as a medical condition which affects ability to work.

    In Europe EHS is recognised as a medical condition: http://electromagnetichealth.org/electromagnetic-health-blog/eesc-action-for-ehs/
    A key high-level EU advisory body which formally advises the European Parliament and European Commission, is in the final stage of drafting their ‘opinion’ regarding actions that are needed to address the issue of Electromagnetic Hypersensitivity (EHS).

    In Australia “A SCIENTIFIC REVIEW OF MULTIPLE CHEMICAL SENSITIVITY: IDENTIFYING KEY RESEARCH NEEDS. Report prepared by the National Industrial Chemicals Notification and Assessment Scheme (NICNAS) and the Office of Chemical Safety and Environmental Health (OCSEH) 2010” tells:
    “Multiple chemical sensitivity (MCS) … is a condition within the sphere of “environmental sensitivities”, a descriptor used in a wider sense to describe a variety of reactions to environmental factors including chemicals and physical phenomena such as electromagnetic radiation, at levels commonly tolerated by the majority of people (Sears, 2007).”

    ARPANSA does not visit people who complain about Smart meters, they do not want to know about anything that does not fit into their theory. Looks like “If facts do not fit into theory it is a problem of facts”.

    I believe the law must declare experts who declared something “safe” to be responsible and accountable. They must monitor the situation, react to all complaints, meet people who complained in person and run new tests if necessary.

    9. Does the ARPANSA RF Standard really tell Smart meters are safe?

    Several people complained about health problems as soon as they got Smart meter installed in their house. All they got is the same answer “according to ARPANSA standard Smart meter is safe”.
    For me it sounds like no one, government official or distributor, tried to read it. Because actually the RF Standard does not tell anything like this.

    “RADIATION PROTECTION STANDARD Maximum Exposure Levels to Radiofrequency Fields — 3 kHz to 300 GHz”
    Foreword:
    There is currently a level of concern about RF exposure, which is not fully alleviated by existing scientific data. It is true that data regarding biological effects, at levels below the limits specified in the Standard, are incomplete and inconsistent. The health implications for these data are not known and such data could not be used for setting the levels of the basic restrictions in the Standard.
    Research is continuing in many countries into possible effects on health arising from RF exposure.
    For me foreword like this has nothing to do with “standard said it is safe, so it is safe”. It more looks like “it is safe as far as we know, but we do not know a lot”.
    Has the Victorian health authorities ever read the Standard? I seriously doubt it.

    … the limits specified in the Standard are based on the published 1998 Guidelines of the
    International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection (ICNIRP).
    If we read the document, on which ARPANSA standard is based (ICNIRP GUIDELINES FOR LIMITING EXPOSURE TO TIME-VARYING ELECTRIC, MAGNETIC AND ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS (UP TO 300 GHZ), 1998) we can find more information which is not really reassuring.
    these guidelines are based on short-term, immediate health effects… So population of Victoria is used as a guinea pigs for research about long-term effects from pulsing wireless radiation? And our Government does not care? Actually our MPs and our health official are guinea pigs as well as me, because they have probably goy Smart meters in their homes also. Congratulations!

    page 506: Interpretation of several observed biological effects of AM electromagnetic fields is further complicated by the apparent existence of “windows” of response in both the power density and frequency domains.
    Is it possible Smart meters emit combination of power/frequency which fits into one of these “windows”? We do not know. And no one tried to find out. Without checking this out we cannot claim “Smart meters are safe”, but the is exactly what is happening.

    There is insufficient information on the biological and health effects of EMF exposure of human populations and experimental animals to provide a rigorous basis for establishing safety factors over the whole frequency range and for all frequency modulations.
    So no one knows for sure about ALL frequencies and ALL modulations. But ARPANSA used this uncertain document to create the Australia’s RF Standard and claims “Smart meters are safe”!

    About effects of electromagnetic field which are below ARPANSA limits:
    Overall, the literature on athermal effects of AM electromagnetic fields is so complex, the validity of reported effects so poorly established, and the relevance of the effects to human health is so uncertain, that it is impossible to use this body of information as a basis for setting limits on human exposure to these fields.
    Does it mean weak fields are safe? It looks more like “we do not know today, but we may find out tomorrow”. Victorian health and energy industry officials received several complaints from people who became sick as soon as they got Smart meter installed on their house and gave them same answer: “Smart meters are safe because standard said so”.

    ARPANSA RF standard is one of most “generous” for emitting devices. There are many countries in the world where the level of emissions of wireless radiation must be many times less then in Australia.
    Some data is here: http://www.safeinschool.org/p/microwave-exposure-limits-countries.html
    (Australia has same limits as USA).

    But ARPANSA does not want to know about any complaints or reducing limits as many other countries did.
    On the other hand, they wrote the RF Standard in such a way that it protects ARPANSA from any claims if something will go wrong in future. Someone may suffer, but Australian “science” will be blameless and will hold no responsibility for their actions. So why they have to worry about information which do not match their point of view?

    I believe it is very wrong.

    I believe the information which I have provided is very alarming and independent research into safety of Smart meters must be done ASAP.

    And laws must be changed to FORCE authorities react if they receive more than some specified amount of complaints about something. And does not matter who declared “something” safe – if too many complaints are received, new independent research must be done.

    10. Responsibility for wrongful disconnection.
    In Victoria energy retailers are responsible for wrongful disconnection. They may pay $250 for every day a customer is left without electricity (https://www.ewov.com.au/complaints/assistance-to-lodge-a-complaint/if-the-energy-disconnection-was-wrongful).
    And if you are disconnected by one retailer you can sign a contract with another one, so disconnection is a problem but affects your life only in short term.

    Unfortunately distributors have no responsibility like this. Victorian law does not have any compensation in the case of wrongful disconnection by the distributor. They can let the customer live without electricity as long as they like and get away with this. And the distributor has a monopoly.
    So this loophole in law gives distributors practically unlimited power. And they use it. There are people who were left without electricity for months, without explanation why it was cut off and how they can get it back.
    The Energy and Water Ombudsman Victoria was not able not just re-connect electricity. They did not even manage to force distributor provide customer with proper explanation why electricity was disconnected and how it may be possible to get it back (actually distributor obliged to inform customer about it BEFORE disconnection, but they did not do it and EWOV failed in this also).
    What is similar about all these people: they all rejected Smart meter to be installed in their home. It is one more example of “best endeavours” and “acting in good faith”.

    I believe it is wrong and the relevant laws should be amended to ensure distributors have same obligations as retailers – pay for every day of wrongful disconnection.

    And absence of action from EWOV must be investigated, because they lose any enthusiasm as soon as they hear complain about Smart meters. This attitude is wrong, EWOV was created to protect consumers, not corporations.

    11. Funds for compensations to Smart Meters victims.

    In the year 2001 Hardie had never admitted to anyone – shareholders or the public – just how may lives its asbestos was likely to claim. They were hidden behind confidential settlements for those victims who had the heart to sue. And when a new Australian accounting standard – ED88 – looked like insisting that Hardie have to declare ALL its estimated asbestos liabilities…

    Currently Smart meters are declared “safe because ARPANSA said so”. So owners of Smart meters (electricity distributors) have no obligations to have funds available (estimated liabilities) for compensations to people who are suffering from pulsing radiation or who became sick because Smart meters made them Hyper-Sensitive to wireless radiation.

    In future it may create situation, when a lot of payments must be made, but no funds are available (see asbestos history). And their insurance company may refuse to pay for Smart-meter related problems or will go into liquidation (again, see asbestos history).

    So we come back to corner one: as long as we have “Smart meters are safe because ARPANSA said so” we cannot even ask distributors to have funds for compensation or proper business insurance, which will cover future payments to victims of AMI project.

    12. Smart Meter Refugees.

    Several people could not stay in their own houses any more because Smart meter in their or neighbor’s house made their life a misery. They were forced to move interstate, in parts of Australia where there are no Smart meters yet, where they do not suffer from pulsing radiation.

    Federal and Victorian Human Rights Commissions and Ombudsmen received many complains about it, but nothing has been done.

    Australia cares about refugees from other side of the world, but no one is brave enough to stop 5 foreign-owned corporations from forcing Victorians from their homes and looking for refuge interstate .

    Here we do not need any changes in laws. We need to force bureaucrats to use existing ones.

    • Peter says:

      Good points “A”, re. ‘introduced by two people’, I can’t see ANY signature on this document, therefore is it legal?

  28. David says:

    We need to start suing those individuals that have violated our rights. It pays to record all video, audio and phone calls of all encounters with any person who has anything to do with utilities or the smart meter agenda.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/naperville-sun/news/ct-nvs-smart-meter-suit-st-0916-20150915-story.html

    Naperville settles lawsuit with smart meter foe
    Naperville smart meters
    In 2012, Naperville began replacing old electric meters, left, with smart meters, right, that transmit data wirelessly. (Chuck Berman, Chicago Tribune)
    Susan Frick CarlmanSusan Frick CarlmanNaperville Sun
    Smart meter lawsuit in Naperville settled

    Naperville City Council members this week settled a federal lawsuit filed last winter by a staunch opponent of the city’s smart meter installation program.

    The 12-page agreement calls for paying $117,500 to Naperville resident Malia “Kim” Bendis, whose Jan. 23 lawsuit accused the city and four of its police officers of violating her constitutional rights.

    A founder of the grass-roots Naperville Smart Meter Awareness group, Bendis filed her complaint in U.S. District Court in Chicago two years to the day after her arrest by Naperville police on misdemeanor charges of eavesdropping and resisting a peace officer, charges on which she was later acquitted.

    Bendis and members of her group opposed replacement of the city-owned residential analog electric meters at their homes with wireless alternatives. Bendis maintained police intervened during an installation of one of the devices at a home, in violation of her civil rights. The filing, which named four Naperville Police Department officers, also asserted that city officials decided in a closed door meeting to arrest Bendis and any other residents who interfered with their plan to “forcibly install the smart meters.”

    Senior Assistant City Attorney Rob Wilder and City Attorney Jill Pelka-Wilger submitted the proposed agreement.

    “This agreement shall not, in any way, be construed as an admission by the (city or police) that they have acted wrongfully with respect to (Bendis),” the agreement states.

    According to the suit, Bendis and other residents made recordings of officers during the forced meter installations.

    “The recordings made by other Naperville residents were made openly and recorded the conversations of the agents and police,” the suit stated. “None of these other residents were arrested for recording the police officers and installation agents without their consent.”

  29. Peter says:

    Here’s your chance to let the legislators know what you think of the ‘hugely effective AMI rollout’ here in Victoria, who knows, if enough Victorians voice their opinion, something might actually happen, after all, the AER is federal, not Victorian.
    http://www.aer.gov.au/system/files/AER%20-%20Consumer%20guide%20to%20Victorian%20electricity%20distribution%20pricing%20review%202016%20to%202020%20-%2009%20June%202015_0.pdf

  30. Anton says:

    Hello.
    Do you know the A1100 ELSTER electronic polyphase meter can affect your health?
    The A1100 A1100 ELSTER is using emf (electromagnetic fields).
    Thank you.
    Anton

  31. Anton Bounitch says:

    Hello,
    Please let me know if you know the A1100 is an electronic polyphase meter can affect your half.?
    The A1100 is an electronic polyphase meter is using emf (electromagnetic fields).

  32. peter says:

    Hi Guys
    I have just been checking out the ‘service to property’ charges on this web site, this is a fixed charge regardless of how much electricity you use. For some obscure reason, QLD is the most expensive and their grid system has not yet been sold off to private profiteers, which almost certainly will be China!!!!!! Victoria comes next and guess which state has the cheapest, RIGHT ON, the ACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Also check out some of the TOU pricing, unless you are out all day and prepared to do your cooking and house cleaning as well as your washing overnight or at the weekend, you will save very little! Bear in mind your fridge and freezer will be operating 24/7 anyway

    https://www.originenergy.com.au/for-home/electricity-and-gas/plans/energy-price-fact-sheets.html#vic

  33. Anonymous says:

    http://oursay.org/how-it-works ask your question
    and check tags “EMR”, “smart meter” and support questions which were asked by someone else

  34. Sick Of Their Lies says:

    A Must See!
    1000’s of “smart” meter fires: New Whistleblower and Court Evidence (Video)
    http://takebackyourpower.net/1000s-of-smart-meter-fires-new-whistleblower-court-evidence-video/

    • Snowy says:

      This video is priceless.
      Demand it be returned & made available for the world to learn the truth.
      This video was downloaded by many before it was yanked on petty grounds by those who care nothing for the rest of the world which needs to know what it contains.
      That said, it continues to circulate widely. This smart meter fire video revealed that this is nothing less than a story of global arson, harm, disease, property theft, home invasion, & smart “meter” instigated deaths.
      Enron II is being carried out right under all our noses by outright criminals at every level of collusion, political, corporate, invisible. In fact the same accounting firm (renamed) that cooked Enron’s books, is a major player this time as well.
      Prepare for impossibly high electricity prices & rolling black outs, hacking & protracted power outages, it is coming, make no mistake, this is all part of it. However, the real trillion dollar profits will come from stolen & resold private personal data of the kind which has nothing whatsoever to do with energy use.
      Search San Bruno.
      A major gas leak there was repeatedly reported by many residents for three weeks prior to the disaster. This was surely a smart “meter” triggered explosion. Yet reports were ignored by the utility for weeks on end. Smart “meters” had recently been installed as an “upgrade” to this high end development. Ignition source meets leaked gas. Boom. Somewhere between 8 & 12 dead, over 200 homes written off. The “smart” grid might as well be a demolition program to deconstruct human civilization. Perhaps it is.
      It is absolutely inescapable that smart “meters” are sources of ignition leading to inevitable conflagrations. These devices cannot avoid becoming fire starters, given strong surges of the kind that occur all the time. Add fuel to this, any gas line or propane tank on or beside the same house as any “meter”. Sooner or later, given any remotely controlled surge, be it accidental or INTENTIONAL, smart “meters” can & do & will explode, catch fire, burn homes, kill people.
      Countless smart “meters” which have done just this continue to arrive at endless meter tech shops, burned up, melted, charred beyond recognition.
      In the tech world this is no secret, but just try to find an engineer who cares. This is why those with influence, for instance, such as judges & legislators, many allegedly on the take, more often than not do not have these on their own homes.
      Why not use Street View to track this down yourself? Find the address of those who support the smart grid & zoom in on the non smart meters on the homes of “delitists”, meaning the most rank smelling sub humans of so called high rank. That seems to be the deal that has been struck everywhere. It is as if those with influence who help the grid along appear to be being offered a covert opt out to keep & to self-read their own analogue meters. That is, IF they continue to use their influence to enforce the incrementalism of what is tantamount to grid fascism & see to it that the rest of the world has to have these insurance voiding, thin bladed, arcing, electrically incompatible, code violating dangerous devices.
      It is YOUR meter base/socket they use to destroy YOUR home. This is not a secret, not any longer, now that meter techs who can no longer be part of the massive cover up everywhere are trying to blow the whistle while they try to find a way to survive the act of whistle blowing, as they witness one pallet load after another of burnt out smart “meter” fire starters arriving in their shops.
      First of all, one key factor for why fire is inevitable is that, unlike with analogue meters, smart meters are NOT grounded. On purpose. This means that you, your baby, your pets, your loved ones, & any unfortunate wildlife caught in this global microwave radar blanket, everything biological on the planet, but most of all those who are the occupants of homes with smart meters, become the smart grid’s path to ground.
      These frequencies pass through your biological system, using your own bio-electricity as the conduit, using you & your appliances as the newly created paths of least resistance to seek ground.
      Secondly, analogues have surge arrestors.
      Smart meters have no surge arrestors. Of course not, why would they? No pulses & surges,. no profits.
      The medium IS the message.
      The customer is expendable, irrelevant, a mere conductor, the frequencies from a commercial radar antenna located on your home couple to your nervous system & brain & you become involuntarily coupled into the grid, for corporate profit.
      Think of it as slow motion electrocution.
      As for the yanked fired education video? Click on the link for it & it will tell the tale, sincee it says that it has been yanked by Stop Smart Meters!
      Rumour has it that a runaway ego led to a hissy fit demand that Utube pull the FABULOUS fire video down.
      And of course Utube is delighted to do so, it profits by & thrives on infighting, since google owns Utube & google , the ultimate voyeur, is a major investor in the global smart grid
      Good news is, many downloaded this fabulous video before this snit fit happened. Everyone is sharing the invaluable info in it anyway,

  35. Laurence says:

    Currently have a petition in progress which will go to Sum of Us org when it reaches 100. – Currently at 86 as I write.– Pls visit & sign petition at http://community.sumofus.org/petitions/smart-meters-are-they-really-1

    • Sick Of Their Lies says:

      Please sign if you haven’t already……We’re almost there!!!
      Really important to get our message out, especially with the threat of gas and water “smart” meters in the not so distant future…(if not already, in select locations across the state).

      Thanks Laurence.

  36. Peter says:

    This is not intended as an Advertisement, but simply as information, there are different plugs which can be bought from different shops at different prices.
    I have just bought a Bauhn ‘smart power, power meter’ from Aldi, ($15) It plugs into my wall socket and I can plug in any of my household appliances and It tells me: how much energy my appliance uses, calculates the cost to power the appliance, the amount of co2 emission of the appliance and how much energy the appliance uses in standby mode. Even if I had one of these for each socket in my house, as a one off purchase, it would be a damn site cheaper than the annual cost of the ‘smart meter’ (which I do not have) charge on my bill!!!!!! Plus I do not have to go out to my meter box to ‘scroll through’ the smart meter program and then start doing calculation to get the information I want and, no one else has access to the information. Plus, NO HEALTH ISSUES!!!!!!!!
    If the government was serious about looking after the interests of the customer, rather than the corporate distributors, it could have made these available to Victorians rather than trying to force ‘surveillance and control devises’ into every home in Victoria! But then, it would not have the power to control our power use, or the information it gets from ‘profiling a customers electricity use’!

    • Tanya says:

      Peter, I saw those plugs at Aldi and considered buying one as it would be interesting to have info on my appliances’ electricity consumption. And then I asked myself what impact, long term, would it have on my use of appliances. Would I turn the heater off tonight and freeze to death in order to save 50 cents off my next bill? Would I go out and buy a new fridge that uses less electricity and probably has a smart chip that can’t be disabled? Would I ever be happy to run my washing machine at 3 am in order to save $2 per quarterly bill, at the risk of waking to a flooded laundry, or worse still, a burning house?

      The power companies gave us the spin about smart meters enabling us to use our appliances more ‘smartly’ and save money, while the smart meters, the very devices supposed to be enabling us to save money, sent our power bills through the roof. People think they will use smart meters and Home Area Network devices to monitor their electricity consumption, but these tools become toys that we tire of in just a few weeks and then we fall back into our old habits. And then the power companies can say, “Serves you right if you’ve got a high power bill. We did everything we could to help you decrease your power consumption.” What they won’t tell you is that they hiked up your supposed power consumption figures so much via the smart meter that the only thing persuading you to decrease your power consumption was your new, massive bills since the smart meter was installed.

      • Peter says:

        Tanya, I agree with everything you say.
        Before COAG agreed to the mass roll out of these devises, a trial of AMI installations was carried out in 3,000 homes THROUGHOUT AUSTRLIA!!!!!!!!! As there were no complaints, this was enough to convince the no-brainers that it would be accepted Australia wide!
        In another ‘trial’, 5,000 homes were provided with free In Home Displays, the result was a minimal reduction in electricity use, and more than 30% never even looked at their IHD!
        The point I was trying to make re the plug, is that there are many less controversial alternatives to the AMI; which the governments, both state and federal have not even considered.
        This begs the question, was the Victorian grid sold under some sort of ‘trade agreement’, guaranteeing the investor a huge profit? Was it ‘sold’ at all; as we know a ‘sale’? If you look at the wording in some of the few references to the distributors/providers, they are not called ‘owners’! They are referred to as ‘licensees’ or ‘approved/authorised’ persons. This then raises the question, do the distributors actually ‘own’ the old analogue meters, or are they simply licensed/approved/authorised maintainers of what used to be referred to as ‘public assets’?

        • Gone Anonymous says:

          Peter, here’s an interesting experiment for you to try if you can get your hands on an incandescent light globe. Run the incandescent light globe in a lamp plugged into your Bauhn plug. Measure the electricity consumption. Then try the same experiment with a compact fluorescent light globe of equivalent wattage.

          An expert told a group that the CFL does not use less electricity. I’m curious to know if that is correct. I suspect that might be especially true for those who have a smart meter, which seem to have their own unique way of measuring electricity consumption!!!

          There are other options to experiment with. The new-fangled filament globes (perhaps only available at specialty lighting stores) are not energy efficient. The Federal government, in its ‘power-trip’ has restricted importation of these globes to no higher than 25 watts to punish those Australians who are determined to ‘waste’ electricity. So, if you can’t get hold of an incandescent light globe you could compare a filament globe with either a CFL of equivalent wattage, or with an LED or energy saving halogen. Note, CFLs and LEDs are not healthy. Which begs the question, “Why is the federal government trying to force us to use them?”

          Now I should have bought one of those Bauhn plugs so I could do that experiment myself. Of course, I could always run nothing but a lamp in my house and check my safe analogue meter after about an hour, Not sure how far that safe little disk would spin in an hour. Probably a lot less than the ‘stupid’ meter would over-state my electricity consumption to be.

  37. Barbara says:

    Hi. I’m looking to buy a radio frequency and a low frequency meter to measure my EMF exposure. Can anybody tell me if I’m likely to have a problem if I buy either of these meters from an overseas store as many countries use a different electrical voltage to us?

    Also, what sorts of things should I be looking for in a meter? And were you happy/ unhappy with yours? Thanks.

    • Jan says:

      Radiofrequency meters and meters for measuring the low frequencies coming off wiring are free standing, so aren’t plugged into an outlet. So there is no problem purchasing from overseas.

      There are lots of different manufacturers, models and different pricing points, depending on what you’re after, and exactly which frequencies you want to measure.

      Radiofrequency meters such as the Cornet are quite inexpensive, and a lot of people like it (it’s also quite small, which appeals to some people). Personally, I love my EMFields Acoustimeter (it’s a model AM-10). It gives a peak reading in volts/metre, plus an average power density per square metre in microwatts. It has a large display, plus an audio function, which is really useful. It also comes in its own carrying case. It measures signals that are between 200 MHz and 8 GHz. It also comes with good instructions.

      For the low frequencies you would most probably be getting a milligauss meter (also referred to as a gauss meter), which measures the magnetic fields. Just make sure you get a tri-axial meter so it is measuring all three axes at once (so you don’t have to do complicated calculations to work out your exposure). The Bell 4180 is a good one.

      If you were getting something like a Stetzerizer microsurge meter, which is for measuring ‘dirty’ electricity, ie high frequency voltage transients, on wiring, then you would need to plug it in. However, you can still buy it from overseas, as you just need an adaptor to plug in here (just don’t buy the filters from overseas, as they are not made for our electrical systems).

      • Barbara says:

        Thanks for your reply Jan. That’s some of the things I’ve been stuck on.

        I’ve been looking at a few different models and I’m just not sure if it’s worth spending a lot of extra money for what seems like some small gains (coming from someone with little idea, mind you). For example the Acoustimeter is a lot more expensive than the Cornet ED78S and I wonder if it is worth paying the extra? I want to be able to measure the high-voltage powerlines and cell phone tower nearby and also the electrical appliances in my home. Do you think that it is worth paying extra to measure things like this?

        Also do you know if the Bell 4180 measures the electrical fields along with the magnetic fields? Thanks.

        • Jan says:

          I haven’t used that model of Cornet (I’ve got the ED85EX) so I can’t really compare it to getting an Acoustimeter plus a tri-axis gauss meter. Looking at the Cornet ED78S’s specifications, it only measures magnetic fields in a single axis. Personally, I think that would be a real pain if you want to measure the magnetic fields from appliances and from high voltage power lines. It’s really the total exposure that you would be interested in.

          And no, the Bell 4180 is just for measuring the magnetic fields. (I actually have a different gauss meter, but only because I wanted to measure a slightly different range of frequencies). I’m happy just measuring the magnetic field, however, as AC magnetic fields go hand in hand with electric fields.

          By the way, if you just want to detect electric fields, as opposed to measuring them, a $25 or so electrician’s volt detector works. Mine has a light plus it makes a buzzing sound that is proportional to the field. It’s quite fascinating to use ….I discovered we had electric current running on our kitchen sink. It’s also interesting to see with it the effect that trees near power lines have ….our trees absorb the electrical fields.

          Also note that both the Cornet ED78S and Acoustimeter Model AM-10 say they measure up to 8 GHz. There will be towers that are sending out signals higher than this, so you need to be aware that when you use one of these meters, you may not be getting the full story. (When I have done internet searches on what a tower is being used for in rural areas, I have found frequencies of over 19 GHz being used for NBN wireless backhaul transmissions). Also, both of these meters are single axis RF meters. In the case of radiofrequencies (as opposed to the low frequencies), I think just measuring a single axis can work well …it can help one pinpoint the direction that the radiation is coming from.

          • Barbara says:

            It sounds like these meters may not be enough then. How can I find out what frequencies may be coming out of my local cell tower? I live in urban Melbourne.

            • Stop Smart Meters Australia says:

              You can find out without purchasing any equipment by going to the Australian Communication Media Authority website http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/site_proximity.main_page
              If you do want to independently confirm what is coming from a tower you would need to buy an RF spectrum analyser which can be very expensive at $2000 or more.

            • Jan says:

              1. Go to http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/register_search.main_page

              2. Select ‘Assignment/Frequency range Search’

              3. Put in the postcode.

              4. Run enquiry.

              Click on the ‘Licence Number’ to get the location.

              NB There is also a search facility at the Radio Frequency National Site Archive at http://www.rfnsa.com.au/ for getting the EME (electromagnetic energy) reports for telecommunication towers.

              • Barbara says:

                Thanks. It’s a big help to be able to find out what RFs are in my area and what areas I should avoid moving to in the future.

                Well after checking it looks like the cell tower across the road from me only puts out about 2 to 3 Ghz, so thankfully an ordinary meter should be able to tell me how much of that radiation is reaching me.

                By the way, whilst looking at the other sites around my area I noticed that there is a tower that gives out 38 Ghz at the shops I sometimes go to. Yikes! I don’t know how common that is but I think that it is only a matter of time before we need meters with a much broader range at an affordable price.

                Anyway thanks again for your help. Now I just need to pick a meter!

  38. Peter says:

    People of NSW, do you still trust this man?
    http://www.etunsw.asn.au/etu-media-releases
    You can be sure, if he has done this to the trades people of NSW, he has done the same for the consumers of NSW!
    I have just read some of the ‘spin’ on the sale of your public assets, where these people get off is hard to say. They hold Victoria up as a shining example, claiming that electricity prices have fallen! If that is the case, how come there was a record 6000+ complaints this year alone, regarding disconnection/restriction for credit reasons? The trend continues to rise each year, yet the Essential Services Commission, whose prime commitment is to serve the interest of the Victorian CONSUMER, is only now asking, not WHY Victorians can’t afford their electricity bills, but how the retailers are trying to cope with the ever increasing number of people having to go without, or restricted supply of this ESSENTIAL SERVICE!
    To get a true picture of what is really happening here in Victoria, go to the EWOV web site and read their annual reports in their archives, the figures show a very different situation to the ‘spin doctors’ who I believe are just trying to pay lip service to their masters, how anyone looking at these reports can claim the Victorian AMI rollout is a resounding success is beyond me! I notice that some of the charts show the years reading from right to left, so the lower figures are on the right, so reading left to right without looking at the year, you may think the figures are declining rather than rising! was this done for that reason?

    • Tanya says:

      Another trick of the power companies (Powercor/Citipower) is to point out to customers the graph showing that their customers/Victorians have the lowest fixed charges for supply as a percentage of the total bill compared with other states. Well that’s not hard to achieve when you consider that people’s electricity consumption figures went through the roof after a smart meter was installed.

      All the power companies have to do is exaggerate your electricity consumption and now all of a sudden, your fixed supply charge looks good and you have no reason to complain that you are paying for a smart meter that you didn’t want, still don’t want, and would love to get rid of so that your consumption figure could return to normal.

      See https://stopsmartmeters.com.au/2015/04/14/which-meter-do-you-trust/

    • Gwen says:

      Peter, I contacted the N.S.W Opposition before their recent election, to point out that the info being spouted by Baird Inc. was absolutely false re Victoria having the lowest electricity prices of all the States. The Opposition never mentioned it and I think they were in favour of the “selloff” of the peoples property.

      • Peter says:

        Gwen, what we MUST bear in mind, as I have said before on this site, THE AMI ROLLOUT IS A COAG AGREEMENT.
        COAG consists of a chairman and all the state premiers and senior ministers, THEY HAVE ALL AGREED TO IMPLIMENT THE AMI, so it doesn’t matter which party is in power, they are all going to try to install these devises; regardless of whether they are safe or not, whether they invade our privacy or not or whether they cause cancer or any other ailment or not.
        A couple of years ago, I contacted the other state governments for their view of the AMI. ALL responded saying they support the AMI rollout! They did however CLAIM that it would be on a ‘voluntary’ basis. BULL@$#YT! they were also quick enough to quote the same legislation as our pollies! The governments are not going to allow customers to refuse to have these devises for the simple reason that if they do allow that to happen, they will not get any investors to ‘overhaul’ the public assets they allowed to fall into disrepair and/or out of date.
        These documents date back to 2009, does that date ring a bell? It’s when Victoria started their AMI roll out!!!!!!!!!
        See article 4 in the first document refers to a ‘smart grid’.
        Second document also refers to a ‘smart grid’, (table 2.1.2) but significantly also refers to detailed monitoring of household energy use. (table 3.3.7) This is proof positive that they are capable of such highly invasive activity!
        https://www.coag.gov.au/sites/default/files/2009-07-02.pdf
        https://www.coag.gov.au/sites/default/files/Energy_efficiency_measures_table.pdf

  39. George says:

    I just wanted to ask a quick question about activation of AusNet smart meters . We’ve received a letter today advising that we are eligible for a one-off $125 rebate from AusNet due to inability to read remotely as of 31st March 15.

    It means that the smart meter is not operational and it continues to be manually read .
    I have spoken with AusNet and they have advised that it will be at least the end of 2015 until the network glitch is fixed . My question is simple – does the meter requires a physical activation or it’s done remotely ? The reason for my question is simple . I can lock in the cabinet and install the plastic window to avoid the activation of the smart meter if it requires the manual activation . Alternatively , I don’t see many options to avoid activation if it’s done remotely .

    Any advice would be appreciated .

    • George says:

      Just a quick follow up on my previous post .

      I rang AusNet today . Apparently, the remote antenna has been installed on my junction box, hence it can be activated remotely. It appears that activation process will be finalised between now and the end of 2016 . So I guess not many options for us at this stage .

      • Tanya says:

        George, take everything the power companies tell you with a grain of salt. They have done nothing but lie and bully their way through this rollout. It is possible that they suspect why you are asking this question. I had heard earlier in the rollout that Ausnet would be returning to install the communications card. If I were you, I’d go ahead and lock the meter box just to be on the safe side.

        • George says:

          Thank you all for your prompt response .
          I suspect that power companies are well aware of this forum , as a result the information they give can be ptoentially misleading . I called AusNet again and asked the same question about manual/remote activation ..
          The lady checked NMI and advised that the external transmitting antenna has been installed already . I’ve checked the junction box and there is a black bar-type antenna attached to it . According to AusNet the activation is done remotely , hence no need to activate the smart meter manually.
          I have no problem to cut the window and to lock in the junction box , though I’d be interested to get some advice from another ( and more reliable )source if the information provided by AusNet is correct .

          Cheers
          George

          • Peter says:

            I think Tanya may be correct, some ‘surveillance devices’ were installed without a communications cards, even if there is an antenna, it won’t work without the card, so your distributor may have to come back and install the card. I strongly suggest you lock your meter box anyway and install the window. The longer you debate the point, the more opportunity your distributor has to thwart your protest.

            • Theodore says:

              Hi, don’t bother to lock up your meter box, they cut the lock regardless of the signage on the meter box and replaced the meters with a smart meter when I was at work. They had no consent… I want them to reinstate back to the original meters. Any ideas?

              • Peter says:

                copied and pasted from my submission on the home page dealing with ‘you paid billions for the ami’ etc”.

                Hi Boopsy, hang in there until 2017 when ‘competitive metering’ is to be introduced. It seems only then will you be given the choice of what meter you have. The question is, will be there be any none ‘smart meter’ types available?
                I repeat yet again, Electricity Customer Metering Code 6.1 states quite clearly, that a customer can request ‘a type of metering equipment which is different from the type the distributor or retailer (whichever is responsible for providing the metering services) would otherwise install’, etc,(6.1(b)) in the case for Victoria, a ‘smart meter’ the distributor, ‘must use its reasonable endeavours to install that type of metering equipment within 20 business days’. (6.1(d) but you must be prepared to bear the cost of the installation of the new meter, 6.1(b) and (c)
                Obviously, the distributor/government will argue over the interpretation of this code, but I believe my interpretation is valid and until someone argues the point, the distributors/government do not have to worry about the customer challenging them!

                Reply

                You should have the installer charged with ‘trespass’, (no good putting up the sign if you are not going to proceed) You should also have the installer charged with wilful damage to your property.

          • G’day George,I live in the Ausnet region myself,have you noticed increased activity from Ausnet,Service Stream And Telstra etc?And visual changes to power lines,power poles etc?Regards to a remote connection,they will do that,once the ‘Net Grid’ is up and running and or pertaining to signal strength individually,that aids data transfer.IF,you have an antenna,you can be read remotely BUT ONLY IF Ausnet have upgraded the infrastructure for ‘ Net Grid’ as per signal strength for connection and relay.

      • Anonymous says:

        You have options George it just depends if you want to put in the hard work. Ask them to put your analogue meter back. This is the problem most people will not even try to do anything about this problem because it takes alot of work, so they would rather just take a chance and hope that all those scientists and doctors are somehow wrong and this radiation is safe.
        You have options no one said its going to be easy, but you have to start somewhere. Ask them to prove this radiation is safe for starters. This would be impossible as this evidence does not exist nor do i think will it ever exist.

  40. Happy Dissenter says:

    “Is Wi-Fi making your child ill? ” As France bans Wi-Fi in nursery and primary schools, a British expert who has given up using wireless gadgets says we should do the same. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/wellbeing/11589857/Is-Wi-Fi-making-your-child-ill.html

  41. Peter says:

    Read the preface to this document. Is the ESC thick, or just plain ignorant? The EWOV has been telling them annually since the beginning of the AMI roll out about the complaints they have been getting, and it’s taken years for the ESC to start asking why! The ESC’s own charter says their No1 commitment is to have regard for the CONSUMER, yet in my opinion, they have continued to ignore the consumer and pushed the distributors wheel barrow instead!

    http://www.esc.vic.gov.au/getattachment/e5b2e7a4-77a6-4ac5-80d2-381fbe440fad/Issues-Paper-Inquiry-into-the-financial-hardship-a.pdf

    • Anonymous says:

      One of my neighbors wont answer his phone sometimes because he can’t afford to pay the electricity bill, he told me this when i tried to call a few times. He has a smart meter.and hasn’t finished paying the first bill before the second arrives. He told me that he does not always answer the phone as he expects the call to be about the unpaid bill.
      My neighbour would not even use much power nevertheless the bill is still high as is gas and water as well.

  42. Anonymous says:

    Someone mention air cubes for his mobile phone. Dont bother….Just stay off the phone. Doesn’t matter if you are on the phone or not…Or even if you have a phone we are now saturated in radiation. I was told my meter sent rf 6 times a day. It’s 36 times a minute, and so is every house around me…..5 phone towers within 1/2 a km and who knows what else we dont know about. You better get used to radiation because its only getting worse.

    • Anonymous says:

      You can’t get used to poison.It will eventually kill you.Its about time the lazy masses, stopped being lazy and did something about this problem. The children will pay the highest price.Even if you don’t have children, we have a Duty Of Care to protect all children even the children that have not been born yet.
      This radiation problem is getting worse, because some people don’t care and expect others to take on the burden. .This is everyone’s problem. If enough people stood up and told the Politicians to get rid of smart devices then they would have no choice.
      People don’t care, because the consequences have not taken affect yet.Cancer can take a long time to show up. That is only cancer, that is not all the other health problems.
      Only slaves accept the inevitable, not free men and women. I suppose everyone has to decide for themselves whether they are a slave or free men and women.

      • Snowy says:

        Dead slaves tell no lies.
        The majority lack a personal history of being hunted down or killed off in the past, and so they are complacent, indifferent, selfish, if it is not happening to them it is not happening at all. It certainly seems as if the vast majority do not care about others, the infants, the toddlers, the young, the elderly, the vulnerable, the weak, the sick, the unborn. Only when it is their turn do the selfish wake up, and mostly even then, they only seem to care about themselves. Modern life has made narcissists of more and more, the futile empty pursuit of the eternal “selfie” and the misery and chronic illness that goes with those isolating, indoor, anti-nature artificial choices, all because self absorption is encouraged by corporations that continue to own the copyrighted software inside those devices useful idiots pay to”own” and use to harm others all around them with second hand radiation.
        Then too, people are seriously addicted to wireless, not to mention to trivia, hooked on a life wasted on the internet. Every age group is already OCD and hooked on tiny screens, the world disappears. Meanwhile this invasive technology has GPS and tracks them everywhere they go, listens to them, drone observes them camera records them, profiles them, but they are far too distracted by what they fail to even recognize as biological trespass, invasion by technology in which they participate and with which they collude.
        Everywhere now people look like idiots, they sit and stare at tiny screens, like slow boiling frogs gradually cooked by radar, no life except to use a screen all the time.
        So the addicted compulsively continue to radiate themselves, neglect children, let infants play with iPads, ignore what is happening so fast to their own kids, a form of abuse, really, children who are soaking up this radar technology and dumbing down, getting cancer, learning to be addicts themselves. Once parenting includes harming one’s own irreplaceable dependents, even pets that one claims to love, it becomes that much easier to ignore the big picture, the disappearance of bees and butterflies, the growing silence of lost birdsong, the depleted environment, the stunted plants and trees. The masses seem handicapped, unable to imagine that something invisible kills just as easily as something one can touch taste, see, hear.
        Those all around you put you at risk because they do not want to recognize that this radar technology is blanketing and suffocating the world. Yet science has known for at least 80 years that this stuff kills, hence the death by cancer of all in the US Embassy in Moscow, which soaked up a mere fraction of what we all now are immersed in.
        The global smart grid and the internet of things makes you and me into “things”, data commodities, expendable, and that is no different than a world wide eugenics program.
        It matters not at all whether the actual intention is to kill off the population or not. When corporations become indistinguishable from government, the net effect is exactly the same, eugenics in action. What we are witnessing is the introduction of policies to allow the compulsory sterilization of school children from wireless, from laptops and wifi, all of it frying young girl’s ovaries in schools. Then they come home to brain fog from the smart meter their parents do not use a good suppressor on to protect their kids, and neither do the parents in all the other homes all around them, no place free of it.
        At the same time there is accelerated die off of the elderly and the chronically unwell.
        Hitler would be proud.
        Just look where they locate cell towers, right near day cares and near nurseries, elementary schools, old age homes, hospitals, churches, universities it seems so obvious.
        Denial is not a survival tool. Just the opposite.
        Do not look to those around you to save you, they are part of the problem.
        The drowning drag the swimmers down if they can.
        Maybe a group of the terminal still able to function ought to get radical and go around and smash all of this, destroy it before they die?
        Just an idea.
        Pardon the rant, feeling a tad futile at the moment, been trying to inspire others to want to survive for way too long on this issue.
        I will finish with an old joke that hits the spot:
        A roving reporter approaches and asks a person on the street, “Which do you think is the greater problem in society, ignorance or apathy?”
        The person replies:
        “I don’t know and I don’t care”.

        • Anonymous says:

          Snowy …great I ditto all you said …but Goverment in 2008 I think …by deceptive means instilled the ANT-Terrorism Laws not cause we are at risk from terrorist but to stop any one trying to get this disgusting technology off their houses or homes …………….How the hell can they continue to place this “UNINSURABLE ” garbage on peoples homes .

          Oh maybe they are wanting to destroy our assests as well as our health ????……

        • Anonymous says:

          I do not look around and wait for others to save me. I look around and am disgusted by the apathy and selfishness that i see. I look and see gloom and doom. I see stupidity and ignorance and people hell bent on destruction. It’s not going to be a nice world to live in for any of us.

    • Mark Berman says:

      I am new to the forum. My name is Mark.

      You meant air tubes! not cubes, and they are awsome!
      I suffer from a mild degree of EHS, when I speak on the phone I get a tingling feeling on my face and hands.
      The headaches occur after a few minutes. I searched on google for a solution.
      I read that an air tube radiation free headset can help, so I did a little research and got one. I have to say that it actually helps.
      I do not have to hold the phone to my head so the tingling sensation stopped both head and cheek.
      I do not want to advertise anything because that usually gets people upset although I really recommend looking in to this. If it helps me it will help you.
      Mark

  43. Snowy says:

    Further, how is a smart meter not an encroaching easement on the private property owner’s meter socket or meter base as well as the private owner’s whole house wiring system?
    Why not file a procedural numbered complaint with the police to render the utility liable for tampering or attempted tampering with a privately owned meter socket or base?
    Why not pop round to your nearest police station and file a numbered complaint with the most senior person on staff?
    Why not register such as complaint regarding notice received by the utility stating their corporate intent to establish a new easement boundary inside the home by gaining remote control over a privately owned meter socket, privately owned utility service panel or utility circuit box?
    ON a slightly different note: One very elderly chap here filed a complaint for an attempt against his life in direct contravention of his doctor’s orders not to be exposed to such frequencies, due to his pacemaker and his electronic oxygen machine.
    the constabulary had no problem seeing this as a criminal complaint, in fact it opened their eyes.

    • Anonymous says:

      Wow Snowy .. As a severe suffer I was blasted by 2.4 GJHZ of WI_FI on a windy day .through my body full heavy metals ..bleeding nose,filling blown out ,severe chest bak,throat pain,etc etc …but police were rude ,abusive and arrogant ..”I cant tell them to turn telecommunications down “…and refused to take a report …..urgh ??????

  44. Snowy says:

    How ISN’T a smart meter a device able to establish a legal easement inside the home without benefit of covenant or agreement? How isn’t this an encroachment easement that legally alters property boundaries by establishing a new easement inside the complainant’s own service panel or circuit box?

  45. Peter says:

    Hi All, submissions to the ‘The performance and management of electricity network companies’ period has been extended yet again. If you haven’t already done so, this is your opportunity to voice your opinion on the behaviour of your favourite distributor!!!!

    http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Environment_and_Communications/Electricity_and_AER

    • Anonymous says:

      Peter, why does the website state that you can lodge submissions till the 20th of April?
      I just had a look at the submissions and it says they are closed. It is not the 20th of April yet. I have lodged a submission can’t see it on the list.

  46. Peter says:

    Hi smart meter lover, I’m sure that as you love these devices so much, there are many Victorians who would be delighted to let you have their surveillance devices, if they could get them removed by their distributor! What ever happened to the right to say NO????

    Try telling Sofia that she should embrace this wonderful technology, and all the other CUSTOMERS that have health, privacy, and safety problems with the installation of their ‘smart meter’, many of whom knew nothing about these things until after they were installed, as well as the thousands of ‘unrequested disconnections’ in relation to the installation of these things.

    It would be nice to know how much Sofia benefited from the donations for her legal costs.

    I get the distinct impression that all government departments have been told to give as much assistance to the distributors as possible in order to complete this dictatorial ‘mandated’ rollout, while ‘stone walling the complaining customers!

    People of NSW be warned! If you vote to privatise your electricity, expect all your rights to be sold along with your power.
    Victoria is leading the way, it seems we no longer have the right to say NO!

  47. Mark Berman says:

    Hi,
    I am new to the forum. My name is Mark.
    I suffer from a mild degree of EHS, when I speak on the phone I get a tingling feeling on my face and hands.
    The headaches occur after a few minutes. I searched on google for a solution.
    I read that an air tube radiation free headset can help, so I did a little research and got one.
    I have to say that it actually helps.
    I do not have to hold the phone to my head so the tingling sensation stopped both head and cheek.
    I do not want to advertise anything because that usually gets people upset although I really recommend looking in to this. If it helps me it will help you.

    Mark

  48. Happy Dissenter says:

    From “The Age” tonight. Price of electricity is causing hardship in families and charities are copping the financial brunt. http://www.theage.com.au/comment/electricity-charges-for-some-victorian-households-up-to-800-more-than-they-need-to-be-20150322-1m2qtd.html

  49. smart meter lover says:

    Nothing wrong with smart Meters. Cannot understand why you are all complaining. Only annoying thing is when they give you and estimated bill as they are too busy to read the meter.

    • smart mum says:

      How deluded are you? There is much you don’t understand…

      • Anonymous says:

        Smart meter lover is not deluded. It probably has nothing better to do. I bet you it doesn’t reply. It sound like a meter reader or smart meter installer or someone from the other team.
        We are the better team.

    • Tanya says:

      Hello? Smart meter lover, do you know anything at all about smart meters? The real reason we had smart meters forced upon us was so the power distributors could sack all their meter readers and add to the long dole queues and people competitng with us for a scarce job. If you have one of those whizz-bang ‘smart’ meters, it is not supposed to need to be manually read.

      Smart meters automatically transmit your electricity consumption via radio frequencies that travel via your body to the power distributor. So your smart meter doesn’t work very well if it needs to be manually read. Or are your electiricty distributor’s staff so stupid they can’t figure out how to get automatically transmitted consumption figures that are already in their system from their system to your bill? Who is your electricity distributor?

    • Anonymous says:

      Smart meter lover, isn’t it the meter readers job to read the meter? The meter reader gets payed for reading the meter.Enjoy your smart transmitter let us know if you do get cancer and other health problems.How can you be too busy to read the meter? As for complaining, you are complaining as well.
      Maybe if the meter reader did not stand outside my gate looking at the gate for a whole 60 seconds he would of had time to read the meter. The signs on my gate can be purchased from Bunnings. So if you went to a fast food restaurant and the person at the counter told you they were too busy to serve you and you could just lick the scraps up of the floor, would you? After all they might be busy as well.
      What about if you were sick, is it okay for you not to be treated because the Doctor is busy?
      We can complain all we want, it is called free speech. I am not a slave, maybe you regard yourself as one. If you want to be a slave that is your choice.I am glad you love smart meters, as from what i have read the radiation can do some serious damage.

      Are you a meter reader? If you are and you don’t read the meters then you will have to refund our money and hopefully get fired as well.We also have the problem of discrimination. If you read one person’s meter and not another this could be seen as discrimination.
      We also have bullying added to the equation.It is physcological bullying to refuse to read the meter, especially when we pay for this service. Psychological bullying carries penalties like jail time.
      Enjoy your possible cancer causing device and keep an eye out for any lumps.

    • Anonymous says:

      Smart meter lover, smart meters need friends as well. You can be that friend. I don’t mind estimated bills they are usually pretty accurate and the meter readers that i have spoken to over the years have been nice people. Can’t understand why you are complaining either.
      You be the smart meter’s friend, they don’t have many friends. If the meter readers are too busy to read the meters, What else are they doing? The job description says meter reader, which means that they read the meter, which means that the job requires you to read the meter. This means that the job is actually reading the meter.
      I saw an ad in the paper for meter readers. The ad stated that you had to read meters. If people keep on getting estimated bills and the meter reader has access, then i can see an inquiry.
      Also, if i have to read my own meter than i will require payment. Then the meter reader won’t have to worry about being too busy, as they won’t have a job. They can get a job scraping roadkill of the highway or picking up rubbish.

  50. Tanya says:

    Further to Steve’s comment below, Telstra has joined the power companies in further saturating our environment in radio frequencies. Not content with the destruction of our health via smart meters, Telstra has recently upgraded their network from 4G (900 mhz) to 4GX (700 mhz) for greater penetration into what was supposed to be the privacy and safety of our home. Some people are already feeling the effects of this upon their health, others are yet to ‘enjoy the benefits’ of 4GX in their home and inside their body!

    • Smart meter sufferer says:

      On the 14th January our internet dropped out. It took three days to get it back. I was informed by Telstra that there was a National outage. Immediately after it was reconnected I started to feel most unwell -usual EHS symptoms headaches, nausea , muscle pain, burning sensation. My son developed severe palpitations. I complained to Telstra who admitted that they had done some kind of systems enhancement!! They said I would have to take my complaint to ACMA, which I did.
      ACMA said that as long as Telstra hadn’t breached the code, there was nothing they could do.
      Suggested I speak to ARPANSA or my local MP!!! Typical usual runaround.

    • sue says:

      Yes Telstra has been here too!!…Kiama 2533

      To All You People Who LOve Our Kids .

      There is the opportunity to attend “Rights in a Crowded Classroom .”
      5.15 pm .
      15.3.2015
      http://rightstalk.humanrights.gov.au/next-talk

      Please attend and see if they will be stopping the microwave radiation program in our schools soon .?

      Minnie ,

      Love your comments .

      Sue

    • sue says:

      Fellow Human Beings ,All Animals ,Plants and Living Beings.

      I would like to declare “smart” the new “dumb and dangerous”.

      After a near fatal exposure to EMR in June last year I have researched and researched to work out and understand why and how this has happened..

      I would like to share some very profound information I found on WHY the STANDARDS are being BREACHED …..contrary to our illustrious “Smart” officials who state it is .

      Language is meant to be used to communicate and exchange and for understanding .

      The “language ” that has been “deployed ” such as “wi-fi” “wi -Max”,’Hotspot” “smart”…”HPWREN ” …”GWEN” has been engineered to purposfully decieve and misinform. These acronim,s contain deadly technology that Gov /Political parties have allowed to prolificate in our country, our communities,our homes AND worst of all our SCHOOLS .

      Oh industrial /military …why would they let us know.

      WITHOUT INFORMED CONSCENT.

      But much worse is all of this is the SILENCE ……..

      Our medical system is a failure.

      Our welfare system is a failure

      Our legal system is a failure

      The Australian Gov is in contravention Human Rights ,Disability Rights and Unicef Rights of the Child.

      To coninue roll out “smart ” meters is criminal to remove hardwired phones in homes and “trick ” families into blasting families with 2.4 ghz wireless modems is disgusting.

      Another issue that could be causing more “EHS” symptoms is “silver iodide” that is being sprayed in our skies . If anyone knoiws more about this pls inform as Casa have no idea,EPA does not deal with anything that comes out of the back of planes and so on and so on. (South Sydney been sprayed continuously since NOV 14)

      I urge everyoneone to start refering to yourselfs NOT as sensitive but recieving “sublte electric shocks ” as I was told by Curtis himself. The enviroment is polluted .

      Read Curtis Bennets very clear and simple language on ELECTRICITY……….

      .Thermoguy.

      http://www.willthomasonline.net/interview%20with%20thermoguy%20curtis%20bennett.htmI

      His websites has much more wonderful information.

      Also the most distressing and disgusting peice I have read so far…….

      http://mieuxprevenir.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/san-diego-state-university-brain-cancer.html

      To all the people I watch on a daily basis place their phone to their head and talk for long periods of time …..if you only knew!!.

      To all the mothers who give their kids a mobile phone/device for their safety /educational purposes ….if you only knew.

      To all the people who have been “bestowed the “precautionary principile” but have no idea!!!…..if you only knew.

      My Nokia which I have for emergencies is in the drawer with nil credit.

      And there it can stay.

      I am done.

  51. Steve Huppert says:

    While we all (umm, maybe not all but a growing number) become more aware of the dangers of Wi-Fi with issues being raised with baby monitors, smart meters, Wi-Fi in schools etc., ignorant Telco industries are brazenly charging ahead with ever increasing strides to provide more and more Wi-Fi intro our environment, all in the name of business convenience.
    Read more here…
    http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21632739-wi-fi-hotspots-become-ubiquitous-who-needs-cellular-wireless-when-wireless-worlds
    It seems that while we are fighting a grass fire on one front, a raging forest fire is getting out of control behind us.
    What say ye?

  52. Anonymous says:

    While we all (hmm, maybe not all but a growing number) become more aware of the dangers of Wi-Fi with issues being raised with Wi-Fi baby monitors, smart meters and Wi-Fi in schools, ignorant Telco industries are brazenly charging ahead with ever increasing strides to provide more and more Wi-Fi into our environment, all in the name of business convenience.
    Read here…
    http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21632739-wi-fi-hotspots-become-ubiquitous-who-needs-cellular-wireless-when-wireless-worlds
    It seems that while we are fighting a grass fire on one front, a blazing forest fire is getting out of control behind us.
    What say ye?

  53. Margaret Woodland says:

    Glenda says:

    I have a friend who suffers greatly with EHS and I believe that everyone will suffer changes to their bodies even if they don’t feel it yet. For this reason, and many others, I have refused the installation of a smart meter on my 1/2 acre property by following your instructions and putting the appropriate signage on my gate.
    I AM ABOUT TO LEAVE MY BELOVED HOME and extensive gardens to take up residence in a retirement village not far away. I’m happy to say that they have their own analogue meters and have no intention of changing them to smart meters.
    MY HOME IS NOW ON THE MARKET and I just wanted TO LET ANYONE KNOW WHO IS HAVING TO LEAVE THEIR HOME IN ORDER TO GET AWAY FROM RADIATION, AND IN PARTICULAR , SMART METERS.
    All the properties around me are 1/2 acre or more and there are lots of trees and a mountain to interrupt signals. My neighbour on one side, and also the one behind, also do not have smart meters and have the relevant signage and locked gates and/or meter boxes.
    I have a locked solar powered automatic front gate – very effective for keeping any unwanted visitors out. Also my meter box has a padlock with windows to read the meter.
    The Heathcote Junction train station is a 3 minute walk to the end of the street. The Vline train takes 50 minutes to get to Southern Cross Station.
    The primary school is close by and there are school buses to serve the various secondary colleges in the area.
    MY HOME IS NOW LISTED ON THE INTERNET and you can get all the details, plus a plan of the property and a VIRTUAL TOUR through most of the house and garden at:
    http://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-vic-heathcote+junction-118878455
    or you can search: 34 Station Avenue, Heathcote Junction.

  54. Tanya says:

    According to this article
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/power-plants-mothballed-as-electricity-demand-dips-20141210-124ekv.html
    there has been falling demand in the national electricity market since 2008-9. And yet Victoria and other states are being told that we must all have smart meters because they enable us to reduce our electricity consumption because there is an inability to produce enough electricity to go around. The article also states that power generating plants are being shut down without any impact being felt upon consumers! Mind you, you have to question whether a trial shut-down between July and September is an intelligent way to find out if there is enough electricity to run all those nasty air-conditioners that the power companies want to take control of.

  55. Peter says:

    Now we see the real benefit(?) of so called ‘smart meters’. Distributors are now talking about putting their own ‘tax’ on air conditioners! Next it will be fridges, freezers, kettles, so on and so forth. They intend to ‘tax’ all our house hold white goods! If you have a surveillance and control devise (they call them ‘smart meters’) in your home, take my advise and ‘USE YOUR BEST ENDEAVOURS to get rid of it, distributors can only impose this tax by using their surveillance and control devise!!!!!!!!!
    The burning question is, can a private company impose a tax on its customers?

  56. geoffrey says:

    another great interview from prof barry trower on dangers of smart meters from 54min onwards

    Open Your Mind (OYM) Radio – Clive De Carle & Barry Trower – Oct 5th 2014

  57. geoffrey says:

    WiFi Kills – Barrie Trower on UK Column 19th Sept 2013

  58. Happy Dissenter says:

    Happy New Year’s Greetings refuseniks!!! Here is a NYE article by Karen Collier about smart meter fines. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/smart-meter-rebels-enjoy-a-reprieve-from-fines/story-fni0fit3-1227171437417

  59. Sick Of Their Lies says:

    Hydro-Quebec worker breaks into house to install “optional” smart meter.

    http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2014/12/20141223-110210.html

  60. Maud Crossing says:

    Adelaide becomes dangerous wi-fi hotspot. The Victorian government is wanting to upgrade – free Wi-Fi on trains and extend free Wi-Fi to further saturate microwave radiation in Melbourne.
    As yet Adelaide does not have smart meters but with the added curse of smart meters in the CBD areas of Melbourne people will be copping huge doses of unescapable radiation 24/7.
    One wonders when common sense will prevail and the increasing trivial use of wireless technology will be arrested.

  61. Sick Of Their Lies says:

    Rather biased Wireless Baby Monitor story from Channel 7 News last night……Tuesday 2nd Dec 2014.

    Dr Mark Gregory RMIT Senior Technology Lecturer says in the report, “Australia has very conservative guidelines”. Really? Belgium, Switzerland and Russia have conservative guidelines. Australia and USA’s Wi-Fi exposure levels are off the charts!

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/video/watch/25668531/baby-monitors-unsafe-says-australian-researcher/

  62. James says:

    Hi all,

    I have only just discovered this Page, and am extremely interested in learning more.

    After reading a number of posts in relation to the smart meters and Rf signals , I have a few questions in relation to the symptoms experienced that I hope a few of you can answer.

    1>What leads you to believe the smart meter, and to a greater extent Rf waves are causing your symptoms? Over many years we have all been exposed to radio waves from Am and FM radio, cellular waves including 2g,3g and 4g internet, Wi-Fi routers and hotspots (including our neighbours, as well) and many other Rf emitting devices. Which of these technologies do you believe caused the symptoms? When did they first start?

    2>Do all Rf signal frequencies cause you to feel sick, or do only some? Do some cause a more severe re-action, If so, which frequencies cause the re-action?

    3>With the prevalence of Rf technology in today’s society, it’s almost impossible to not be exposed to these waves throughout the day. Do you constantly feel sick due to this?

    4> Have you consulted a doctor in relation to these symptoms? , The symptoms often listed coincide with several physical and mental health conditions. It would certainly be a good idea to get a check up before assuming the issue related to Rf waves and taking advice from the internet. If you have consulted a doctor, what was there opinion?

    5>Do you have any experience with radio and networking technology? Do you have an understanding of how each wireless network type works, as well as Rf signals in general? If not, what lead you to believe that Rf signals are causing this issue? Have you consulted with someone with direct knowledge in this field?

    6>Do you currently have any devices in your home that emit Rf waves?

    7>Is there Any steps you can take to releave symptoms?

    Thanks in advance 🙂

    • Anonymous says:

      James thankyou for your Inquiry into effects of Rfs. Your questions sound like they come from someone in the industry. My answer will be as brief as I can. Yes I have a sensitivity to EMR. This was realised when I came into contact with a device that stated it emitted EMR. Symptoms were; severe heart palpitations, nausea, loss of balance and headaches. Symptoms subsided when device was removed. The more I am exposed to Rfs, the more sensitive I feel. Yes I have consulted my Doctor who agrees that my symptoms are related to EMR. Advice was to limit exposure. I feel being close to the source has the greatest impact. This is just common sense that science supports.
      This happened before the rollout of smartmeters in Victoria.
      Since this has happened, my sensitivity has definitely increased. I find it very uncomfortable to spend a short time in electrical appliance stores when shopping, and in designated wi-fi areas that I was unaware that they were. Please believe this is real and not just in our heads. Science is on the sufferers side.

    • Minnie says:

      Dear James,
      Why don’t you contact ARPANSA for this information as you are asking for personal information from a total stranger.
      Why did you not leave an email addressif you wanted this personal information? Why do you want personal information?
      People that are genuinely sick from RF radiation are probably trying to find out what is actually causing it.
      Don’t tell people to go for a check up, that is what all the SMART PEOPLE are telling people to do. HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW PEOPLE ARE TAKING ADVICE FROM THE INTERNET? ASSUMING ARE YOU? THE SYMPTOMS DON’T COINCIDE WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. THE SMART PEOPLE SAID THEY MIGHT BE PSYCHOSOMATIC. THIS IS ARM CHAIR PSYCHOLOGY AND STUPIDITY.
      It is easy to blame everything on mental illness. Haven’t humans been doing this for thousands of years?
      If you are just a little bit different or unique you might be a witch, warlock or the Devil himself.

    • Minnie says:

      One more thing James, your local Doctor does not have the expertise to diagnose this condition. You would have to got to an Environmental Health Clinic and have lots of tests.
      Also no test exists which can prove or disprove that radiation is the problem as we are all different.
      You can try contacting the Victorian Department of Health they will refer you to ACMA.
      ACMA does not deal with health issues they will probably refer you to ARPANSA. ARPANSA don’t give out health advice, they are scientists. You can then badger the Department of Health. They will probably refer you to the CEO of ACMA.
      You can then write to the CEO of ACMA. Good luck getting a reply. Then you can start all over again and go round and round or you could be sensible and try to avoid anything that you believe is making you sick.
      THANKS FOR TELLING US IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO GET A CHECK UP FIRST.
      ARE YOU ASSUMING WE ARE MENTALLY DEFICIENT AND WE ACTUALLY NEED YOU
      TO POINT OUT THE OBVIOUS? Good luck James getting information from the departments I mentioned.

    • Minnie says:

      If you really were interested in learning more then why did you say.” It would certainly be a good idea to get a check up before assuming the issue related to Rf waves and taking advice from the internet”
      So are you interested in learning more or are you just going to make your own assumptions? What would be the point of giving you any information when you have stated that people should get a check up before assuming the issue related to RF waves and taking advice from the internet.
      You can’t take advice from the internet you can only read it. Research it yourself and decide for yourself what you believe. We all did the hard work, now you can as well James.

    • sue says:

      Dear James,

      Electrical induction of a human being is illegal.

      Thats why we have Electrical Engineers.

      Thats why Electrical systems are designed and well insulated

      Thats why we do not let our kids put their fingers in power points .

      Electrocution can kill.

  63. Ashley says:

    Victoria’s Power Sell-Off: The Shocking Truth

  64. Sick Of Their Lies says:

    Could be a most worthwhile event to attend. Monday 17 Nov. 7pm – 8.30 pm Sandringham.
    Digital Health: Information evening on the safety of wireless devices.

    More info below:

  65. Gwen says:

    Australia is not a lucky country.. Worse now because we are almost owned by overseas investors and manufacturing almost gone. Ed Gannon, Editor for Weekly Times, told ABC that Victorian dairy producers about to sell to China. Put that in your cup of tea and drink it. I dare you.
    We are not the Lucky Country or Team Australia. We’ve been sold to the highest bidder.
    Andrew Robb is set to announce the signing of the Trans Pacific Partnership. If you thought we are in a nightmare now, just wait. I don’t expect this to be posted but I had to say it. We are up the proverbial creek, with a totalitarian Captain at the helm. People must fight back.

  66. Happy Dissenter says:

    I thought this was an interesting story. “72-Year-Old Grandma Blocks WiFi and Mobile Signals from Her House with Special Paint”

    https://www.yahoo.com/tech/72-year-old-grandma-blocks-wifi-and-mobile-signals-from-100827764019.html

    • Snowy says:

      If you live long enough, you get to see the same cycles of ignorance. This woman who has painted her home is one of the few who seems able to be aware of consequences. All electronic devices emit frequencies which are extraordinarily vulnerable to all manner of wireless interference, frequencies subject to deflection, to absorption, to neutralization.
      In much the same way that activated charcoal is used as an antidote to poison, or radiation, or a bee sting, so too is carbon paint one way to absorb radar radiation microwaves blanketing a neighbourhood or town or city or globe. All over Europe this is what people do, they use this same paint to create safer bunkers.
      Wireless radar is readily neutralized by the right kind of suppressor. It can be degraded or even cancelled out by other conflicting frequencies, or absorbed by benevolent carbon paint – That would be the exact same evil carbon which is at the same time demonized climate appocaholics who almost all use cell phones and have smart meters while they invite the use of carbon taxes to plunder those around them.
      Wireless radar can also be filtered by home made Faraday cages made of uncoated metal insect screening with absolutely no gaps in it, placed so as to surround “smart” transmitter receiver devices. Cheap, easily replaced.
      Frequency conflict has always been well known in the world of electronics. The purpose of ordinary coaxial cable is to shield the frequencies running through the cable from frequency conflict caused by differing frequencies outside the cable. Your coaxial TV or internet cable has better protection than your brain does.
      All forms of wireless are radar reframed as fun. Radar violates all sustainability laws. Yet no one tries to shut it off, which is not impossible to do.
      Wireless radar addicted family, friends and neighbours collectively expose everyone they claim to love to second hand radiation every day. Instead of being with their loved ones, they are only there physically. Meanwhile they stay conveniently and continuously “connected” to those who are absent, those who are not even there.
      Imagine the absurdity of it, using radar to be umbilically hooked up 24/7, in order to carry on frivolous conversations of no consequence, while using radar of great consequence.
      Those trapped in the trendy fashionable wireless matrix might or might not care, even if they understood this, were they not so addicted to being “absent” from the present.
      As it is, each person who thinks it is essential at all times to be voluntarily “connected” to the radar operated wireless global matrix seems unable to understand how dangerously selfish this behaviour really is, since their choices put at cumulative, continuous grave risk every other person they claim to care about, or like, or perhaps don’t even know, be it the boyfriend microwaving his brain on the other end, or the newborn nearby whose a baby monitor is augmented and sends radar even farther than the usual 1000 feet, or be it the elderly in a wheelchair whose head is right next to the invariably leaky radar microwave oven intersecting with the teen cell phone and the wifi modem.
      That said, a cell phone or modem or laptop is readily subject to premature death the minute it happens to drop into any water, which is also one of the many causes of smart meters fires, since condensation inside a cheap plastic cover is water, and since water and electricity do not mix.
      A smart “meter”, which of course is not a real time measurement meter at all, is at best just a very cheap and readily malfunctioning computer, virtually all of them made in a couple of factories in China. This is not an all powerful device, as anyone knows who has ever had to deal with repeat cheap computer glitches and failures. In fact most computer geeks find it amusing how easily smart “devices” end up disabled or hacked or dead.
      Wireless is bad stuff but it’s not all powerful, its effects are not inescapable. The catch is this: Most people refuse to co-operate with one another to legally neutralize this radar en masse. So because everyone else uses wifi and cell phones and ignores the transmitter receiver sited on their own homes which utilities pretend is only a meter, that means that instead, for this woman and for countless others like her, it becomes unnecessarily expensive to use a suppressor or whole house carbon to neutralize the microwave radar effects from all those other wifi radar frequencies around her home.
      Yet it is vital to neutralize this stuff, as well as to protect against damage, malfunction and failure of our own bioelectrical beings, not to mention medical implant failures, insidious slow lobotomy, incipient cancer or heart attack or diabetes, etc.
      Disease is potentially delivered everywhere by wireless radar, largely because people lack empathy. In the short run it might seem easier to be in denial, to remain ignorant of the consequences of invisible wireless radiation. Thing is, this way each person is more easily picked off, one at a time, BECAUSE they do not care, at least not until it is their own turn to become affected, sick, or worse.
      The truly sad aspect of this is that these frequencies are able to sicken those with no choice, every youngster and creature, every pet not able to identify that they are being harmed.
      At least this woman who radar proofs her home by using carbon paint does not care what the ignorant masses all around her think. At least this elder has the sense to use a radiation monitor to make the invisible visible and apparent. But what about every infant, child, or elder in the care of clueless adults? They have no place to run or hide.
      Whether anyone is lucky enough to be like this 72 year old woman, able to feel the early warning signs or not, the science is very clear, the lab results for immediate negative effects from weaponized microwaves cause the same kinds of results. The whole body acidifies. The cells clump, starved of oxygen and nutrients. Mental acuity drops as each person’s IQ begins to decrease and as memory clouds over. Teens hooked on wireless in ever larger numbers are showing classic signs of early dementia since their exposure is constant. Wireless of every kind sets diseases of all sorts in motion, for humans and for all nature thus exposed.
      There is a couple in BC Canada whose neighbour forced them to build high reflective fencing. The neighbour with aggressive wireless complained to the “officials” that this radar deflection fencing was unattractive. However, it turns out that the by-law officer said as long as it was within the setback, it was fine.
      What this woman who has painted her home is actually doing is using one of many survival tools to adapt to the telecom industry and her utility’s use of weaponized frequencies, as well as her neighbours’ use of weaponized wifi and cell phone. Crazy, isn’t it? At enormous cost to herself she is forced by others to protect herself from the ignorance of those others all around her. So public ignorant indifference comes at enormous cost to herself and everyone else.
      All over Europe and elsewhere this same anti-radiation carbon paint is used to shield homes are now reduced to bunkers in which to try to hide from the invisible weapons used in government and corporate wars against the populace.

      • Radiation is no joke says:

        It is sad that humans are this selfish and too blind to see the reality staring them in the face. So quick to judge others who happen to know more (maybe using that thing called a brain) than them.
        If you have done the research and others have not, then at least you are aware of the bad stuff – why live in denial? Having said this though, I’ll admit to being blind-sided by the awful truth of an evil agenda I never knew existed and forced to adapt into some sort of survival mode for the rest of my days on this earth.

  67. Peter says:

    We all really need to read this and make our feelings known, (make a submission) it seems to me that the government wants to relinquish all responsibility regarding the way corporate business operates. To me, appendix A, terms of reference, makes this very clear, its all about removing restrictions to business accountability. There is very little concern shown for the roll-on effects for the consumer! The government still seems to be under the illusion that energy consumers are better off because of ‘privatisation’ and ‘competition’, I cannot think of one industry that has seen any prices fall because of ‘competition’! On the contrary, the only ‘competition’, is to see who can get away with charging the highest prices!

    http://competitionpolicyreview.gov.au/files/2014/09/Competition-policy-review-draft-report.pdf

    Another item worth reading is this:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/the-midata-vision-of-consumer-empowerment

    Why? because it is discussed in the above ‘competition review’. Midata appears to hold all your information regarding all aspects of your life and it seems it is available on line! The UK version is ‘voluntary’, but that still means the data is stored somewhere and vulnerable to cyber attack.

    BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING!

  68. Anonymous says:

    While UK consumers pay as little as £11 a year for the cost of their smart meters, Australian consumers are getting totally ripped off by companies such as SP Ausnet ( 70% Asian and Chinese government owned) who charge hundreds of dollars a year for this useless technology.
    Read the BBC report below;
    Installing smart meters in every house in the UK will save consumers “only 2%” on their annual bills, a committee of MPs has warned.
    The Public Accounts Committee (PAC) said that, on average, consumers will save just £26 a year.
    MPs also warned that the technology could be out of date by the time the roll-out is complete.
    The Department of Energy and Climate Change (DECC) said smart meters will lower bills and make switching easier.
    Installing the meters – which begins in earnest next year – will cost £215 per household, or £10.6bn.
    Customers will be charged an annual amount on their bills to cover the cost, peaking at £11 a year in 2017.
    The £26 annual figure would be the net saving, after the installation costs have been taken into account.
    “Despite consumers footing the bill, they can on average make a saving of only 2% on the average annual bill of £1,328 by the time the roll out is complete,” said Margaret Hodge, the chair of the PAC.
    “Even this is conditional on consumers changing their behaviour and cutting their energy use,” she added.
    ‘Redundant’
    The Committee also said that some of the technology is likely to be out of date by the time it is installed.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/business-29125809

  69. Peter says:

    In my last submission, I referred to the Electricity Customer Metering Code 6.1. Has anyone on this site made this request? If so, what was the response? If not, why not?

    • Peter says:

      No response, hmmmmmm, the distributors are not going to offer to change your meter. You are going to have to make them comply with legislation, just as they expect you to!

  70. Peter says:

    Back before the last Victorian election, Michael O’Brien was one of the biggest critics of the AMI rollout. Within weeks of the Liberals coming into power, O’Brien became one of the biggest supporters of the very system he had been decrying only weeks previously! He blamed ‘contracts entered into by the previous government’. Now just before the next election. We have the same government signing up for a tunnel which few people want, will flatten the homes of many Victorians and is still subject to a court case! This government is doing exactly what they blamed the opposition for 4 years ago! They are committing the people of Victoria to a contract which will cost dearly to cancel. Once again we are being held ransom to a contract which will be very costly to get out of. What exactly are these contracts? Neither the government nor the contractors are likely to tell us, just as O’Brien never told us what contracts he was referring to when he refused to listen to the people of Victoria regarding the cost blow out of his AMI rollout from $800, 000,000 to $2.8 BILLION and still rising. Are we about to see the same thing happen this tunnel project?
    It is now quite apparent that the AMI has nothing to do with ‘carbon reduction’, the so called ‘smart meter’ uses more electricity to operate, it has a computer which stores data, remote switching capabilities and a radio communications system which operates 27/7, even if the customer is not charged for this usage, (pigs might fly) it still uses the power. (So SOME BODY WILL pay for it)
    The AMI was supposed to ‘reduce the cost of electricity’. So far, all the customers have seen, are power bills soaring! The savings were supposed to be passed on to the customer. Even if the costs are reduced later, you can bet that they will never come back down to the pre rollout times.
    There is another problem arising with customers simply saying, ‘stick your grid system where the sun don’t shine’ and going solar. This will cause huge losses for the distributors who have been told by the Victorian government incorporated, to invest in these devises which will cost the investors dearly. If I am correct, I believe, that the government will have to do something to prevent these investors from losing money. What that will be, remains to be seen.
    Read ‘The problems’ bit on this link, should we be afraid?
    http://www.solarchoice.net.au/blog/could-solar-system-owners-face-extra-electricity-charges/

    • Gwen says:

      Peter, these contracts sound like the TPP (Trans Pacific Partnership) which is an agreement from the Government, to pay corporations/businesses for losses sustained due to Government changes to legislation/policies.
      Hence the rollback of subsidizing solar power.

      • Peter says:

        Spot on Gwen, I believe this is why the government refuses to make distributors comply with Electricity Customer Metering Code 6.1(b) and (d). A customer can request A DIFFERENT TYPE of meter the distributor would otherwise install, (a) and (b) they MUST USE REASONABLE ENDEAVOURS TO INSTALL THAT TYPE OF METERING EQUIPMENT WITHIN 20 BUSINESS DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        They threaten to cut off supply of a customer who refuses a ‘smart meter’ because of none existent laws, yet refuse to make distributors comply with existing laws! How corrupt is that?!

  71. Peter says:

    A damn site cheaper way to ‘monitor your electricity use’ than ‘smart meters’!
    http://steplight.com.au/products/steplight-plug-in-power-meter

  72. Peter says:

    Why are governments so corrupt and determined to get these surveillance and control devises installed? I believe it is to gain more control over we the people and remove all our rights to any form of true democracy.
    It now appears that Queensland is about to follow Victoria’s’ lead and wants to sell off its ‘public assets’. Queenslanders beware, do not allow your assets to fall into the hands of profit hungry foreign corporates who are hell bent on squeezing every last dollar out of your pockets by fair means or foul, backed by your government.

    • Happy Dissenter says:

      Watching this terrible brutality made me feel sick. I’ve tried to follow up what happened with the man and his family. Can you update what you know, please?

      • Tanya says:

        I think I heard recently (probably from Josh at Take Back Your Power) that the law suit against these people was thrown out.

  73. Happy Dissenter says:

    Interesting current article in UK Telegraph about smart meters over there. People are wising up to them seeing them as the scam they are. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/energy-bills/11119411/Will-a-smart-meter-save-me-money.html

  74. Ross Holder says:

    I recently sold a smart meter free home in the Frankston area. Prior to settlement we attempted to get the gas and electricity meters read by Origin for the final bill. We were told that the electricity meter could not be read on settlement day because meters were not read on Fridays. After a few phone calls to the distributor (United Energy) it was established that the retailer (Origin) could in fact read the meter on a Friday, and all that had to happen is that someone at Origin had to get off their fat backside and submit a work order to United for a final reading. When confronted with this snippet, Origin agreed to read the meter.

    We were paying the electricity by installments and surprise!! About two weeks later we received a ‘missed installment’ notice. By this stage we had already received FOUR final bills for the gas supply…. also from Origin!

    After getting the Ombudsman involved it was reported back to us that the meter had allegedly been read remotely on settlement day.

    As stated, there is no smart meter at my previous address. The meter box has been locked for years and hopefully the new owners still have it locked.

    Why am I bringing this to your attention? Hopefully with the upcoming election People Power Victoria will win a few seats and initiate an investigation into not just the bungled smart meter rollout, but also into the underhanded and corrupt bastardry of the electricity industry as a whole, and give the Ombudsman real power instead of just being a puppet of big business.

    I now live in a rural area which suffers power outages when the wind blows above a breeze and may not be reconnected for 48 hours. Of course it is not Spaznet’s fault (ie SP Ausnet), it is an ‘Act of God’ or some such rubbish, and they tell us they can’t control the weather. They can control the reliability of the infrastructure. I will bet my bottom dollar that electricity supply was much more reliable 20 years ago.

    Corporations are squeezing every dollar they can out of once publicly owned infrastructure without paying for adequate maintenance or upgrades. Smart meters are part of this plan… and these greedy parasites won’t be happy until there is rolling power rationing as found in third world countries.

    Hopefully PPV will address these issues, and fix the farce, incompetence and inefficient bureaucracy we endure today, and give back what every consumer wants…. what they pay for.

    Things need to change before it gets worse.

    • Happy Dissenter says:

      Thanks for sharing the sad story about the corruption and manipulation that still exists with the power companies. Well done buying a normal home too.

    • Genevieve Sommers says:

      Try and make a phone call to the Australian Energy Regulator. You will be connected to the ACCC. If you want to speak to someone from the Australian Energy Regulator, you are required to leave your details so that they can contact you supposedly within 48 hours though I have been informed that sometimes contact is not always made within 48 hours and sometimes not at all. And when you are contacted in writing, there is no name of any actual person that is supposedly making the communication to you. What sort of elusive organisation is this ? Virtually uncontactable and with unidentifiable personal and appearing under an ACCC front end banner and who supposedly are the one’s “regulating” on energy charges including the latest submission from the power utilities applying for the Regulator’s blessing to commence charging those very people whose human rights they have utterly violated. You just wonder if all these organisations including the ACCC, the Regulator, the power utilities and the government(s) are all part of what may be just one big corrupt corporate mafia here in Australia.

      • Ross Holder says:

        As it turns out, this story has a happy ending. Origin was found to be telling porky pies to the Ombudsman (ie Origin said they read the meter ‘remotely’ when there was no Smart Meter on the premises) and Origin has waived the bill for the final quarter prior to settlement. The Energy and Water Ombudsman have earned their keep on this occasion…. but don’t forget that we had to stand up for ourselves before we got to here.

      • Minnie says:

        I received a letter from the AER, the person just gave their first name. If you only give your first name or no name you can’t identify them so they get away with whatever they write.
        At the start of the smart meter rollout these people would of been quite happy to give their full names out. Things have changed now. They realize people know their rights and could possibly be looking at legal action in the future.

  75. Tamara says:

    Has anyone noticed that SP Ausnet are trying to increase the metering charge next year by 30% !

    In 2008 the cost was $78 per annum to read the meter manually ( http://www.mysmartmeter.com.au/blog/smart-meter-cost/ ), now next years it’s going to be $230 even after all these years of increased Smart Meter Costs. We need to reject this, Singapore Power should pay for their own technology mistakes.

  76. David says:

    Here’s something which may be of interest to people.
    A fellow with EHS, is setting up a Radiation Free Refuge/Community in Country Victoria – for EHS sufferers. He’s asking for interested people to contact him ASAP.
    Here’s the links –
    http://electroplague.com/2014/09/21/ehs-refuge-in-australia-people-needed/
    https://electroplague.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/bruce-evans-australia-ehs-refuge.pdf

  77. Peter says:

    All you customers with a ‘surveillance and control devise’, ask your distributor:
    Why is your electricity use recorded in half hour intervals? Most customers are billed every 3 months, so all the distributor needs to bill you, is the TOTAL amount of electricity you have used during peak, shoulder and off peak, for the quarter!
    I believe the data being collected by these devices is contrary to Privacy laws.
    http://www.privacy.vic.gov.au/privacy/web2.nsf/pages/information-privacy-principles#collection

  78. Gabby Walker says:

    Today Select Solutions (SP AusNet) came to read the meter. He rang the door bell. Said he needed to get into the meter to attach an electrode to read it. I said there is a window there for reading the meter and that is the way it has been read. He said “no it has been estimated only” I replied no it has been read through the window and it corresponded with what was on the account. He replied,” The electrode has to connect to the meter to read it , so you are refusing me access to the meter to read the meter. I will note it as refused” I unlocked the meter box to give access for the reading, but now I wonder if they have programmed the meter to fail so they have to replace it with a smart meter. Intimidating at best, ” So I will note refused access he said”. I wonder, if this is now their new tactic to by pass the window in the meter box, and force us to allow access. Who knows what tricks they are up to.

    • Minnie says:

      Gaby, the contractors that read the meters for Jemena will no longer be reading the meters after December. The job i have been told will go to Select Solutions. So my bet is that they are up to something. The meter readers that come to my home at the moment are neutral, they just read the meters and leave. Next year it will be a different story.
      But now we are aware of what is going on, we can keep an eye on them. It is good for anyone that has had a similar experience to you, to post it on the forum.
      And always go with your gut instinct, if you think something is wrong then it is.Why would you have to attach an electrode to the meter to read it? Could he not read? Did the blood leave his brain and travel to his other brain, leaving him incapacitated.
      .

    • Minnie says:

      Gaby, one of my friends received an estimated bill a few months ago, even though the meter could be read through the perspex window. He queried this with his electricity retailer and they told him that no access can mean that the meter reader was sick that day.
      They know that more than likely people will not be home when the meter is read. They know most of us have perspex windows and have the meter box locked.This is just another game. They don’t want to be seen harassing anyone as they have been sent legal notices, so this way they can put it down to no access, Luckily you were home at the time, but a lot of people won’t be home when they read the meter.
      If they can read the meter through the perspex window then they have access. They have just changed the rules to suit themselves. This way if you get three estimated meter reads in a row, they will more than likely send a letter out stating that they can disconnect your power if they do not have access to the meter.
      They need to define what they mean by access. It is a shame you could not put the electrode on this guy’s head to see if his brain actually worked.

    • Eric says:

      If Utilities have an intention to try to send meter readers that act and behave in the same intimidating way we have seen with the smart meter installers, then the Utilities had better expect that those persons whom they send will be dealt with in the same way as an unwanted installer would be, and that will be to their own peril.

    • Gabby says:

      Further to my post of the 9th September 2014 , it appears my concerns were well founded. My bills have increased greatly from a daily usage on 9.7Kwh to 30Kwh. (gone from $300 to $800) There is no solar feed in calculated on the September or December quarter bills. It does appear that the Select Solutions staff member has re programmed the meter, so the feed-in is not registering or is calculated as usage. The Solar Inverter is still showing that it is exporting Kwh. On contacting Energy Australia, I was told that there must be a meter problem, and that it needed to be inspected and checked, you will need to pay for this. I can well imagine the outcome. “you need a new SMART meter” and then the forceful tactics to put a smart meter in place. Any suggestions.

  79. geoffrey says:

    any chance of and up date on class action being taken and also why facebook is still down please??

    • SSMA committee member says:

      Geoffrey, please use the email address for SSMA under the ‘Contact us’ tab and we will answer your questions. For others watching this space, don’t hold your breath on the Facebook issue being resolved any time soon.

  80. http://freedomtaker.com/
    Free download of Notice to power companies to remove & replace smart meters with analogue. You have the right to issue a legal notice re Non Consent to radiation, surveillance and trespass.

    For those fortunate enough not to have a smart meter YET
    Issue a PUBLIC NOTICE to the CEO of the power company (copy of the notice is the bottom of the homepage at http://jerryday.com/)
    NO “SMART METER” OR ANY SIMILAR DEVICE MAY BE INSTALLED ON THIS PROPERTY
    WARNING: MAJOR LIABILITY AND OBLIGATION

  81. geoffrey says:

    gear to cut down dirty electricty in melbourne, you just need around $1000 http://dirtyelectricity.com.au/

  82. Mario says:

    This new smart meter Wi-Fi technology for energy utilities is being deployed all over the world. By studying our habits, building profiles about us, they believe they are able to guide our decisions towards automation to a profitable target. Welcome to the Internet Of Things.The industry leads, but much more prominent are the financiers, those that impose debt slavery to governments, powerful weapons to their agenda success.
    http://detonateur.blogspot.ca/2014/08/smart-meters-and-wolves-sheep-pen.html

  83. Anonymous says:

    http://smartmeterfightoff.blogspot.com.au/2014/08/smart-meter-and-asbestos-letter-to-ceos.html

    Smart meters and asbestos.

    If you pass this link to your electricity distributor, CEO, members of board, their main shareholders they should become interesting.

  84. Josh says:

    NBNCo are trying to install a 30m microwave tower a few hundred metres from our family back yard in small-town NSW. We didn’t ask for faster internet, we live here to be away from these toxic technologies. We are not just petitioning for our yard, but for everyones, as they have the option to use fibre-optics. Please consider signing our petition, we need support on this. Thank you.
    https://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/joel-rodski-they-think-they-have-the-authority-to-put-a-30m-microwave-tower-in-our-back-yard

  85. Sick Of Their Lies. says:

    Informative podcast on “smart” meters from “Off The Grid News”.
    http://www.offthegridnews.com/2014/07/31/your-smart-meter-is-watching-you/

  86. geoffrey says:

    here a great new doco on health effect of dumb meters with no viewing fees

  87. Anonymous says:

    Please, people, send letters to

    http://www.vic.gov.au/contactsandservices/directory/?ea0_lfz99_120.&roleWithSubordinates&8d3e407f-6c39-4da0-8893-530e4b03b5f3

    http://www.vic.gov.au/contactsandservices/directory/?ea0_lfz99_120.&organizationalRole&f43da8e0-f5ab-427e-bf7c-6427945dc157

    And DEMAND from then that your life and property are SAFE. Ask them to comment on it:
    http://news.ca.msn.com/canada/saskpower-to-remove-105000-smart-meters-following-fires-2

    And remind them “secure” Smart meter in used in Victoria. And we paid for it almost DOUBLE price: http://www.smh.com.au/business/smart-meters-but-at-whose-expense-20121223-2btjd.html

    And not allow them to get away with this! If no answer – sent them reminder again and again!

  88. Snowy says:

    Please note:
    Whether it is a mobile/cellphone, a wifi router, a walkie talkie, a baby monitor, a portable phone, an alleged smart meter or any other wireless device, the second your data becomes wireless, as of that moment you no longer own nor have any further claim of ownership over your own private data.
    Once the data enters or leaves the wireless device at all it has become a wireless transmission. Legally, the owner of the data, has relinquished ownership rights by use of wireless devices and has no jurisdiction over the air.

    GET IT IN WRITING

    FOR THE INSTALLER(S):
    A list of demands to expect of any alleged installer, temp employee, technician, electrician or other etc:

    Provide written proof of the following:

    – full name
    – proof of ID and ID badge and number
    – license plate number
    – name of company/corporation with which installer is affiliated
    – name of installer’s own insurer
    – written proof of installer’s electrician and/or electrical engineer qualifications, – installer’s license
    – work order file number
    – insurer identification papers
    – name of company, policy ID number, and proof that the installer s in possession of insurance papers from insurance provider for installer’s own personal errors and insurance and/or liability insurance
    – a signed disclosure fro the utility co-signed by the installer that the installer is fully aware of and fully liable for any and all hazards and risk associated with performing a hot swap under live load and for all subsequent damage to the homeowner’s entire electrical system, which is inherently electrically incompatible with all wireless grid devices and the frequencies they generate and enable.

    FOR THE UTILITY CEO:

    The list of demands to expect of the CEO of the utility, to be provided in the form of written information sent to the customer by registered mail:

    Submit in writing a request for the utility CEO’s own personal written assurance that they will assume all liability and demand a guarantee signed off on by the CEO of the utility that they will provide proof in writing forthwith that:

    – this microwave bi-directional transmitter device is fully safety approved by every possible agency, national and international and every independent non industry related body able to guarantee absolute safety and insurability

    As is done in Sweden:

    – demand free of charge a professional electrical installation to be installed in tandem with the alleged “meter” and before or inside the service panel, a specifically designed, smart grid compatible, insurance approved, industrial grade whole house transient suppressor

    In this written submission request the inclusion of the utility CEO’s own assurance and guarantee that

    – the alleged “smart meter” and grid wireless frequencies will not generate nor enable the creation of any harmonic distortion nor introduce into the home system any transients, spikes, surges.
    – this industrial grade suppressor and alleged “smart meter” device are both fully insurable
    – this industrial grade suppressor is designed to smooth and neutralize all grid and device related hazards and invasive aspects of the smart grid
    – this industrial grade suppressor and alleged “smart meter” device is able to prevent damage and property devaluation from all electrical and/or wireless sources introduced by the utility into the personal private electrical system of the owner
    – this suppressor and alleged “meter” meet the standards for and will protect all house contents and structural components from all related frequency interference and harm, invasion or violations, biological and otherwise

    Demand in writing within this guarantee that this device and the frequencies it generates and enables are in every way insurable because they are 100% electrically compatible with
    – the meter base
    – the service panel
    – the circuit box
    – all uninsulated home wiring
    – all firewall separations
    – all electrical codes
    – all building codes
    – all occupants
    – will not compromise or void homeowner insurance,
    – pose a fire hazard
    – corrode the meter base metal
    – cause the temperature of any component of the home’s electrical system or the meter itself to change/increase, overheat
    -insurable for full safety from all future malfunction, risk, fire hazard, property depreciation, privacy invasion, or potential to compromise health

    Be certain to demand a written guarantee that this is not a wiretapping device.

    Ask the utility CEO to include in this written assurance that the device’s SMPS (switching mode power supply), its antenna(s), its radio transmitter(s) and Zigbee chips inside will not
    – cause any physical or data or electronic interference whatsoever with your own biological bioelectrical system, your electrical system, your appliances, your electronics, your firewall separations, the current structural specification of your home which were not designed for microwaves

    Make certain that the CEO of the utility can give written assurance that this device will not
    – violate any rights
    – invade privacy
    – share information
    – undermine health
    – frequency graph
    – remotely control the customer’s service panel,
    – analyze, network, or broadcast wirelessly private customer data or metadata outside the alleged “measurement” device
    – collect, remove or rebroadcast into the air the customer’s personal data and metadata

  89. Faye Brown says:

    I was wondering if anyone else has received the latest letter from United Energy. I received mine on Friday 25th July. The general thrust of the letter is thus:
    Re: Non-Complying Meter

    United Energy has written to you previously …..(blah blah blah)
    The AMI mass rollout programme ended on 30 June 2014. We were unable……(blah blah blah)

    Your existing meter is no longer compliant with the metering standard in Victoria. This may impact your power supply in the event that your meter is damaged as the result of either a network outage or a localised fault.
    In the past we have supplied you with information outlining the benefits of installing a smart meter. This includes UE’s ability to identify and manage network outages more efficiently. As you do not have a smart meter installed, should an outage occur at your property UE will not be immediately aware that you are off supply. Therefore we will not be able to utilise the capability the the AMI network to identify and rectify your restoration in the same manner as other customers.
    If you encounter a fault with your existing meter that leads to it requiring replacement, either through a localised event or as the result of a network outage (e.g. a voltage variation) UE will be unable to restore your power until a smart meter is installed. It is the Victorian Government’s policy……(blah blah blah)
    United Energy is proud (blah blah blah)
    Please contact……(blah blah blah)

    I’m still working on my reply to this.

    • Minnie says:

      This is a contract or offer Faye, you must reply. If you don’t, they will state that you agree to their terms and conditions. The easiest thing would of been ,not to open the letter and send it back within 72 hours unopened. Write return to sender on it and have it photocopied as proof that you have sent it back. Get the Post Offices staff to stamp it first and then photocopy it as proof.
      Faye remember last summer, all the blackouts were in areas where they have smart meters. Look how long it took them to put the power on. it took hours, they are full of crap.
      You might want to remind them that the contract you have with your retailer, specifies your home will be supplied with power and if it is not then you are entitled to compensation. You might also want to tell the Distributor that there license states, that they maintain the poles and wires and other equipment. It is their equipment and they have to keep it maintained and working, otherwise they are in breach of the license they have.
      You might want to tell them that if they attempt to install a smart meter against your wishes, they will be trespassing. You might want to tell them to cease harassing you.. You might also want to point out that their are penalties for harassment and bullying.
      It is the distributors job and responsibility to supply and distribute power.. A power outage has got nothing to do with what kind of meter you have, they still have to fix it. Make sure you reply to them.

      • Faye Brown says:

        Yes Minnie you are quite right and indeed I will be replying. Interestingly, the last couple of notices from UE were addressed to my husband rather than me. Initially the correspondence we received was to the Occupant, then after I corresponded back to them and sent harassment notices etc the correspondence was addressed to me. Suddenly it arrives specifically addressed to my husband. I assumed they must have contacted the retailer, thinking that the electricity account was in his name. But I’ve just rechecked to find that MY name is the only one on the bills. All I can think is that a good many years ago when United Energy had one of it’s offices in Bentleigh we were indeed a retail customer of theirs. They must have gone through their archives to get his name!

        Also I do remember the blackouts and in fact I think I took a screen photo (if that’s what you call it) showing date and their reason for the outage and approx time the power would be restored. Did several of them. Might reprint them and incorporate that into my reply…….

        • Anonymous says:

          Faye this is illegal and criminal behavior. The advice i have been given, is that we should all be complaining to the people that give them their licenses and tell them that this letter is illegal and criminal behavior Lots of letters telling their bosses, what we think of this behavior.
          They need their license revoked, we should all be complaining, whether we are with United Energy or not. A complaint also needs to be sent to the Energy Minister and Shadow Energy Minister. While you are at it send the same complaint to Naptihine and Abbott.
          They are hoping to trick your husband Faye. If they don’t want to maintain the poles and wires then they are not fulfilling their contract. Electricity is an essential service, so they have basically stated that if a comet falls from the sky and hits the power line they will not fix it, unless you give in to them.

        • Cameron says:

          Faye, another thing regarding the retail account.
          There the account mailing name but there is also an account name for the person deemed financially responsible. Also there are the names of anyone else designated to be an authority on the account that the retailer will deal with over the phone.
          That’s one scenario.
          The other scenario is that these little boys and girls will target whomever in the household they deem to be the most vulnerable member.
          Jemena especially are experts at this.

        • Snowy says:

          One approach a person may or may not want to use for common law/contract law refusal of consent to contract.

          Prepare your own slightly larger envelope which is to be addressed to the CEO of the utility at the utility’s Head Office address.

          (NOTE: This Head Office address may not be the same address as the return address which is on the utility’s envelope containing the offer to contract Notice sent to you, so be certain to not use that address, as it may only be a P.O box address)

          On the document itself write in red ink on the diagonal in all caps on both sides of the document:

          VOID FOR DEFECT
          I DO NOT ACCEPT THIS OFFER TO CONTRACT
          AND I DO NOT CONSENT TO YOUR ALLEGED PROCEDURES

          On the utility envelope place a white sticker over the address area if it is addressed to you as the customer (versus a cellophane window)

          Write in red ink across the white out area, on the diagonal in all caps:

          REFUSAL FOR CAUSE WITHOUT DISHONOUR

          Write beside the return address area:

          RETURN TO SENDER

          Make photocopies of the originals you are returning – to keep for your own files as proof.
          Ask for the photocopies date to be date stamped by the post office.
          Fold the Notice and fold the envelope and stuff each separately in your own envelope which is addressed to the CEO of the utility at the Head Office address of the utility.
          Send by Registered mail.
          Be certain to get your registered mail receipt date stamped for your files.
          In a few days go on the postal website and use your tracking number to determine the day that the envelope you mailed was signed for.
          Download the postal receipt certificate of proof which has on it the utility’s signature and the date of receipt of your registered mail envelope.

          • Snowy says:

            Consider also sending the CEO a Claim of Right for defence of property and for retention of your analogue/electromechanical meter itself. In most Commonwealth countries operating under English law a COR is the highest law of the land. Check your criminal code to see if this applies for your jurisdiction.
            Demand to see a copy of the Act that mandates this deployment.
            The key question to ask anyone from a utility is this: Under what authority is this program operating?
            Check to see that the document has been given royal assent by the Queen, not by a clerk.
            (Hint, the Queen will not have signed on for this kind of uninsurable liability)
            No royal assent, no law.
            No law, no mandate.
            No mandate, no authority over you.

    • Ainsleigh Needham says:

      More legal entrapment from UE ? Or more toilet paper ?
      You can see how they really scratched their heads to put this latest piece of $H1+ together. Follow it through. The logic is absolutely flawed.
      “network outage (eg. a voltage variation)”

      A voltage variation ???

      I suppose they thought that it sounded technical enough to stupid people like us.
      They are just throwing any $H1+ at people to try and make them cave in.

      I wonder whether they will actually attempt to sabotage their own grid. I think that would land them in some very hot water and I would love to get my hands on the proof to burn them.

      This is the extortion card all over again. No smart meter no power……if your analogue meter has been damaged in an outage. So what do they suggest….get a smart meter now.

      Here’s their offer to fix the problem (huh ? what problem ?)
      Please contact us on 1300 650 887 between……convenient time….exchange….meter.
      Yep…..the usual.

      No thanks.

      Make no mistake about this. If there is a power outage they are obliged to restore power regardless of whether AMI is in place or not or they will be in big trouble.

      Keep your meter boxes well and truly locked you Peninsula folk and all others too.

      I think sending them a Notice at this stage would be good because there is so many things that we can fault (and default) them on including the very notices that they send.

      Oh, better let you in on a little secret. My analogue meter has survived many many years of so called “network outages” or “voltage variation” (for goodness sake) incidents.

      Object to the offer and keep your meter box locked. And tell them that any further correspondence is not to occur and constitutes harassment…because what you will find is that once you engage with them they will continue to engage with you and attempt to entrap you with their web of BS and you need to be able to see through it to be able to deal with these parasitic leeches.

      If you understand the difference between non fiction and fiction then you will understand what part of the library to go and look for United Energy’s latest literary endeavour.

      And Kristina Thompson was the one roped in for the deed this time. Anything for a dollar sweetheart. Doesn’t she realise what the repercussions for her could be in putting her name to what I allege to be a blatant act of extortion upon Victorians ? (and legal entrapment)

      Please, folk do not allow $H1+ like this to get to you. Remember, nothing has actually changed other than that you have been served with an offer to contract in which silence works in the favor of them making the offer……..at least according to the commercial law that these parasites go by.

      • Rachel says:

        According to Linked-In Kristina Thompson’s current position is the Business Performance Manager at Jemena. Clearly United Energy and Jemena are twin sisters living under the same roof.

      • Faye Brown says:

        “I wonder whether they would attempt to sabotage their own grid”
        Funny you should mention that Ainsleigh. We received the letter Friday and Saturday evening we had what you could describe as a minor ‘power surge’ causing the power to flick off for about 1 second. Too minor to lose power completely, but it happened twice that night. Guess what we were thinking?! Hehe!

    • Ainsleigh Needham says:

      This sounds like their offer to you to provide a remedy for what is a fictitious scenario that they have quite obviously conjured up out with their devious minds.
      It’s actually quite laughable when you see them attempting to describe it in trying to put it over you.
      And guess what the remedy is ? Correct, it’s the same old remedy, get a smart meter.
      Just more harassment by post being carried out with impunity. Harassment by post does carry penalty of two years imprisonment.

    • Anonymous says:

      They know that they can’t say we’ll cut your power off if you don’t get a smart meter so they now say we won’t turn your power back on if there is an outage.
      That’s flawed logic UE, in fact a complete crock.
      And then they try to cover the criminality of this their act of making an EXTORTIVE demand by stating
      1. Applicability of this extortion to a scenario of outage damaging the old meter (never seen that before)
      2. Inability of theirs to switch the power on (total bollocks, the power is on if there is a wire going into the premises)
      3. Inability to switch the power on because of inability to do it remotely (again bollocks, when there is an outage, power just needs to be restored to the pole. We know they can’t switch the power on remotely and neither can they switch it of remotely. Power to the premises itself that has a proper electricity accumulation meter and not a carcinogenic radio transmitter can only be switched off manually and can only be switched on manually.

    • Minnie says:

      Faye, look up the distributors license and use what you can. Postal harassment is a crime and carries penalties, so does harassment.
      This is part of United Energy’s use of system agreement.
      The Retailer wishes to sell electricity to Customers at Supply Points within
      the Distributor’s Distribution Area
      The retailer sells you electricity not United Energy.
      Distribution Licence
      means a licence granted under section 19 of the EI Act to
      distribute and deliver electricity using a distribution system.
      Interruption means the planned or unplanned temporary interruption of the
      Supply of electricity to one or more Supply Points, but does not include
      Disconnection.

      6.5
      Reconnection or restoration of Supply
      (a)Subject to clause 6.5 (b) the Distributor must reconnect and restore Supply
      to the affected Customer’s Supply Point.
      (1) when required to do so under the Electricity Law, following
      Disconnection or Interruption;
      They have to abide by the Electricity law, they are not above the law.

    • TL says:

      My perspective is this letter from UE is a load of nonsense. When did they ever access our meter when there was a power outage? The meter has got nothing to do with restoring power. They still need to send out a team to fix the fallen power line or whatever.

      They will know the power is out because your neighbours kindly allowed them to install a smart meter on their houses. You don’t have to be Einstein to realise that if No. 2 Main St, which has a smart meter, has no power, then it is highly likely that No 4 Main St, which has an analogue meter, probably also doesn’t have power. Power outages usually occur to large sections of the suburb, not just the houses with an older style meter.

      And if they are still too dumb to figure out where the power outage is occurring, then I’m sure us people who were smart enough to keep our analogue meter will let them know.

      Frankly, I’d be more concerned about power outages if I DID have a smart meter. Remember that incident in the Geelong area about 1 1/2 years ago where there was a power outage, then power was restored, and a house in that area subsequently burned down, killing the male inhabitant? That house apparently had a smart meter which the power company rushed to replace. Would that house have burned down had it had an analogue meter?

  90. W Fromoz says:

    http://nosmartmeter.blogspot.com.au/
    I updated my web-page, it has new address now. I try to create some kind of manual with information about Smart-meter related issues.
    And, of course, there is a legal information in case you want to get rid of it.

  91. Sick Of Their Lies says:

    Apparently there was a news report yesterday, of a house fire in Oakleigh, definately started by a “smart” meter, so said the MFB. I haven’t been able to find anything about it online. Does anyone else have a link to this story, or further information? Seems to have gone very quiet.

  92. Anonymous says:

    http://www.law.unimelb.edu.au/melbourne-law-school/news-and-events/news-and-events-details/diaryid/8157

    It is free. I think it is good idea to come and listen. He may give us some useful tips for class action.

  93. Anonymous says:

    Yesterday Energy Minister Russell Northe finally understood that he cannot keep pretending that everything is fine with smart meters so he promised one more test.
    And before even the start of the test he was able to predict the results: “smart meters will be shown to operate well within the ARPANSA standard”
    So he still has no idea (or pretends to do so) about EHS and that the Standard is not applicable to people who suffer from it!

    To ensure he will not be able to tell in future “I had no idea about EHS” I propose everyone write him a letter and give him this link: http://www.who.int/peh-emf/meetings/hypersensitivity_prague2004/en/

    Contacts for the minister: http://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/members/details/1693-hon-russell-northe

    You can read more here: http://smartmeterfightoff.blogspot.com.au/

  94. Peter says:

    This was raised on the tv news last night, smart meters in your cars? More control for the government? TOU car tax? Invasion of privacy? Democratic right to say no? Where have we seen all this before? I dare this, this hat has just been thrown into the ring to see what reaction they get. No reaction? They will assume they have a ‘mandate’ to go ahead with this idea!!!!!

  95. Happy Dissenter says:

    Good luck to Frankston candidate Mr Vogt ( anti-smart meter opponent ) in the upcoming state election. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/bayside/mervyn-vogt-82-to-contest-seat-of-frankston-and-advocate-for-residents/story-fngnvli9-1226984524577

  96. Peter says:

    Who didn’t see this coming?
    What worries me is, what the government will do to prevent this happening! Foreign investors have put a lot of money into the AMI and they expect to make a profit from their investments.

    http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2014/s4042832.htm

  97. Anonymous says:

    I asked my distributor (outer SE Melbourne) about HAN, NAN and mesh networks. Answer is very interesting. 40 sec per day. I do not have equipment to check it.

    It is message from my distributor:

    SP AusNet do not use HAN or MESH networks; SP AusNet use a wireless telecommunications network called WiMAX to transmit data directly between the customers’ smart meter and SP AusNet.  WiMAX (Worldwide Interoperability for Microwave Access) uses low-level radio frequency to communicate directly with each smart meter. Radio frequency levels from WiMAX technology are well within Australian guidelines, governed by the Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency (ARPANSA).  The maximum RF EME level from the WiMAX base station services has been found to be less than 1% of the allowable ARPANSA General Public Exposure limit.

    In addition, the smart meter signal on SP AusNet’s meters is only actually active 4 times a day, for about 10 seconds at a time. The rest of the time the signal is dormant; it is not operational and does not transmit. This means any radiofrequency exposure is limited to around 40 seconds a day.

    • Sick Of Their Lies says:

      “Well within Australian Guidelines”. We all know about the standards.
      Standards that were published back in 2002, (over 12 years ago), that were bogus anyway.

      The ARPANSA RF Standard is based on known thermal heating measurements of body tissue. Although, ARPANSA state in Fact sheet 13, “some research has indicated that non-thermal effects resulting from low-level RF exposure may also occur. However, the existence of these effects and their implications has not been sufficiently established to allow for them in the Standard.”….How convenient!
      The current safety limits do not take into account any non-thermal biological effects that may arise from prolonged or accumulative exposure. This means that any biological changes to the body other than heating are not taken into account.

      The use of WiMax in regards to a smart meter rollout, is a world first.
      The technology is untested.
      Currently, I don’t believe SP Ausnet’s WiMax network is even switched on as yet, due to the technical issues associated with it.
      Wi-Fi has a range of around 30 Meters.
      WiMax can communicate to a tower 50 KILOMETERS AWAY!!!
      The increased range is due to the frequencies used and the power of the transmitter.
      Don’t for one second, try to convince me that this is safe, no matter how long it is turned on for each day.

      This is nothing more than a massive, dangerous, science experiment being conducted on the Victorian public, with no way of knowing what effect this technology will have, short and long term on the people of Victoria that fall within SP Ausnet’s customer base, some 680,000 customers in Eastern Victoria.

      We should all be very concerned.

      Please see:
      http://www.wifi-in-schools-australia.org/p/emf-safety-standards.html

      • Anonymous says:

        Anyone lives in SP Ausnet area? What radio smog meter tells? Radiation 24/7 or 4 times per day?

        • Sick Of Their Lies says:

          I’m an SP Ausnet customer. Took a reading from 2 neighbour’s meter boxes and the level is nothing (0.0012 mW/m2 at the meterbox). The meter’s red light is on and the digital readout is flashing away, but it’s obviously not communicating from what I can see.
          In comparison, the Origin “smart” meter on my friends holiday house hit an incredible 1827mW/m2, 5 times in thirty seconds, if you can believe that. The actual reading is more than 1827mW/m2, but my meter cannot read beyond that figure.
          I know……..”well within Australian Standards”……..What a joke!

          Back to SP Ausnet:
          However, if they do only communicate for about 10 secs at a time, 4 times a day, it’s pretty hard to check that, as I would need to be there, at the meter box, at the exact time it does communicate, to read the level.
          This is almost impossible to do, unless I knew what hours of the day the communication happens, for that particular 10 second transmission period.

          I’m pretty sure the “smart” meters in this area aren’t communicating at all.
          I’ve checked a number of times over the last year or so, on a number of properties, and never got a reading.

          There are people in my area that have had “smart” meters on their homes for over two years or more. If the “smart” meters aren’t communicating at the moment, most of my neighbours probably aren’t feeling sick at the moment, because the WiMax most likely hasn’t been switched on as yet. However, when it does eventually get turned on, when they do start feeling ill, they won’t suspect the “smart” meter as the cause of their sickness, because of the fact that they’ve already had the “smart” meter on their home for the last couple of years, and always felt fine. They’ll suspect everything else, but the “smart” meter.
          This I believe is a cunning, sneaky trick by the distributor to confuse the issue even further, for when the public all start getting sick.

          Why is there no information readily available, that tells us what going on with SP Ausnet’s rollout?
          Is the WiMax currently turned on, or is it off?
          If it is currently off, when is it being turned on?
          How strong is the level?
          What exact frequency is being used? Is it 2.5GHz, 3.5GHz, 5.8GHz, ?
          How many times does it actually communicate each day?
          At what particular hours of the day?
          For exactly how long?

          In the interests of our families and friends, short and long time health,
          We have a Right To Know, about the technology we are being exposed to on a daily basis.

          We Are Told Nothing!

          Do you really think SINGAPORE Power give a damn about the health of their 680000 customers, across the ocean, down in little old Victoria, Australia, over 6000kms away from Head Office? SP Ausnet know all too well, that they are very carefully operating within the current (but outdated) Australian Standards set by ARPANSA, and simply wanting to extract as much money from us as they possibly can, for as long as they possibly can, by whatever means they can “legally” get away with, without a care in the world for our health, privacy or security.

          We are simply collateral damage in SP Ausnet’s sick, twisted, barbaric science experiment, that can only end badly for ALL parties involved in this diabolical mess.

          • Anonymous says:

            Looks like SP Ausnet did not lay me about using smart meters only 4 times per day. As I understand WiMAX working – 4 times per day, up 40 sec. Compare with United Energy it is nothing.

            Anyone wants to ask SP Ausnet about plans for HAN network?

            May be they have no plans at all. There is a chance they installed Smart meters to save salaries of Meter Readers and it is all.

            • Peter says:

              Distributors claiming they only read your electricity use 4 times a day are deliberately misleading their customers, yes, they may take YOUR readings 4 times a day, but where ever a ‘mesh system’ is used, the meter is constantly communicating with other meters in the area, this is why; if you take a ‘smog meter’ reading, you will get a reading every few seconds

            • Tamara says:

              SP Ausnet’s HAN plans are in disarray. According to a company that sells In Home Displays less than 60% of the physically installed (so-called) Smart Meters are in fact communicating with Singapore Power’s head office, refer http://www.mysmartmeter.com.au/blog/sp-ausnet-smart-meter/

    • Max says:

      Why would you ask the Distributors any questions? Do you think they tell the truth? If you believe them, then that is your choice. All smart meter emission’s were found within ARPANSA’S 2002 standard. This does not make them safe. Sixteen sites were tested and some had no measurements. Still think they tell the truth?

    • Snowy says:

      Why recycle utility lies? Such nonsense is easily disproved, by anyone using a hand held radiation monitor which readily measures illegal dangerous levels of continuous, cumulative pulsing radiation surges and spikes, every few seconds 24/7 from ALL smart grid components.

      excerpt:
      Hugh Hinskens, a Canadian Electronics Engineering Technologist with a B.Sc. in physics and a background in microwave circuit engineering.
      According to experts, the switch mode power supply (SMPS) contained in millions of ‘smart’ meters (but not their analog predecessors) has essentially ‘polluted’ the electricity coming into our homes with high frequency transients. Which means at the end of the day, there is no “opt out” when the “smart grid” is being deployed in your area. Even with no RF microwave wireless antennas, a “smart” grid of SMPS-equipped meters can still threaten your health.

      It’s not that each individual power supply is more powerful, but rather because every smart meter is of exactly the same design and construction, each SMPS is emitting the same spectrum of harmonics, which are all in phase with the 60 Hz of the power grid and therefore in phase with each other. For consumer electronics, including desk top computers, which have SMPS’s that are higher power, the variety of manufacturers, designs and components in their construction prevents the constructive interference (due to phase coherence) of identical harmonics which manifests with the identical smart meters.

      Also, consumer electronics are plugged into a single branch of a house’s wiring system, so the distance to other branches is longer, allowing more dissipation of the energy from the single branch before it reaches the other branches in the same house, or back into the main grid. The meter is at the root of the branches in the house, so each branch acts like a separate antenna for the harmonics, causing a more well distributed field throughout the house. And because the meter is right where the grid is connected to the house, it’s closer to its peers on other houses, allowing a shorter path for the coherent pulses to combine with other meters’ pulses.

      The total energy of the harmonics from the consumer electronics is likely higher, but an analogy would be that their emitted harmonics are like a dim light bulb that’s on virtually all the time with frequencies spread out more homogeneously, while the smart meter harmonics go from low energy to high peaks at particular discrete frequencies like a bright strobe light. I would think that this coherent pulsing is the cause of the greater negative effects attributed to smart meters.The wiring of every house in a neighborhood is an antenna system transmitting these pulses throughout the neighborhood.
      The Tacoma Narrows bridge disaster is an example of constructive interference in a harmonic system of mechanical energy resulting in a combined energy that caused total destruction, a possibility which escaped the engineers because they only analyzed individual harmonics occurring in isolation. The harmonic emissions of smart meters were not likely analyzed in a real world scenario with thousands operating at once.

      http://stopsmartmeters.org/2013/12/03/dirty-electricity-from-smart-meters-answers-from-the-experts/

      • Anonymous says:

        House wiring cannot be used as antenna for UHF. Results will be terrible. Poor quality of signal and need for a lot of power.
        My Smart meter has antenna on side of meter box. Beige colour plastic, about 250mm long, 30 wide, 15 high.

        • Peter says:

          Is the antenna attached to YOUR meter box? Could be construed as wilful damage if it was done without your consent and against your will?

    • Minnie says:

      You do have equipment to check, stand near the smart meter and see what happens. Your best equipment is your body, especially your brain. Let us know if your brain starts to cook.
      Do they have Nan networks? I thought this was a type of bread.

    • TL says:

      And if WiMAX can communicate to a tower 50 kilometres away (as Sick of their lies says) then that cancels out Sp Ausnet’s reassurance that the smart meter communicates only 4 times a day for a maximum of 40 seconds daily. You are being irradiated also by your neighbour’s smart meter communicating for 40 seconds per day, plus their next door neighbour’s meter, plus the entire town just a little further down the highway.

      My ability to think clearly has been destroyed by my neighbours’ smart meters just within a 50 METRE radius of my home in a mesh/grid electricity network, but by my calculations, that means you only need 2,160 buildings with a single smart meter within a 50 kilometre radius for you to be potentially irradiated every second of the day.

      Anonymous, how safe do you feel now?

    • Minnie says:

      Anonymous, who are you trying to convince, us or yourself?

      • Standing up for my rights says:

        Anonymous is a patsy/ troll/ paid employee of the bad boys. Ignore.

        • Anonymous says:

          I provided information and asked question from anyone who has equipment to check it. I trust in equipment, not letter from Ausnet.

  98. Peter says:

    re UE backflip, read their ‘vision and values’ to see what hypocrites they really are!

    Personally, I think they have taken a few lessons on ‘transparency’ from our ‘trusted’ pollies, who make all the right noises before an election, then do the opposite after they get elected!

    http://www.unitedenergy.com.au/about-us/vision-and-values.aspx

    • TL says:

      Peter, in the interests of honesty and transparency I have given my assistance to UE in re-wording their vision and values more accurately below, based on observation, not written promises. After all, we wouldn’t want to go into an election without knowing what we are voting for.

      “We are focused on our immediate business priorities of building our reputation with some stakeholders, completing a smooth progression to a service model that better suits our needs, imposing risks on the customers only and ensuring unfair returns to investors.
      Together we are working hard to satisfy ourselves and build a business that returns value to some shareholders and is respected by government and regulators as a kowtowing operator.
      We’re thinking about what our customers will want from energy in five, 10, 20 or 50 years from now when they’re all dead from smart meters. As The Non-Intelligent Utility we will give our customers access to the deadliest technology and the most corrupt network, with a priority on efficiently railroading the smart meter rollout and on building our reputation by meeting current and future government requirements.
      Our customers and stakeholders have highly unmet expectations about the level of service we provide, and are alarmed at the focus we have on distributing unsafe and unreliable energy, the value we refuse to deliver for them and how we ignore their needs, individually and as a community.
      These expectations are reflected in our values – safety breaches, unaccountability, refusal to collaborate, lies, disempowerment and disrespect – which guide us in everything we do.
      Safety – We seek to achieve maximum harm
      Accountable – We deliver on our promises to look after ourselves only
      Collaborative – We work at working together to kill Victorians with smart meters
      Communicative – We take the time to connect amongst our colleagues only
      Empowering – We grow ourselves and the government to success
      Respect – We act with integrity to no-one”

      • Peter says:

        Sounds more accurate to me than the original!

        • Gwen says:

          Yes TL, what you have written sounds like the TRUTH regarding the power companies view of their customers. The best way to determine if something is true, look at it in action because actions speak louder than words.

  99. Snowy says:

    Ever wonder how the industry made the implausible leap from the falsely represented safety of cell phones to the never proven safety of smart meters?
    Welcome to the SAR dummy.
    Who is the real dummy when it comes to the SAR dummy?
    The SAR dummy would make Barnum and Bailey proud. It has no biological properties. It is deception at the highest level of stupid.
    A phone is attached by a harness to a plastic head at a predetermined angle of incidence that means nothing since the cell phone is not connected to any number of towers for every single call, in the way that a real one is.
    When someone uses a cell phone they create a giant field all around themselves that is often 30 feet or more across – or worse. all in aid of the illusion of a false sense of connectivity with those far away while at the same time exposing everyone nearby to second hand radiation.
    Generation X-Ray loves it.
    The SAR dummy, SAR (Specific Absorption Rate), is the term for a hollow head made of plastic gel.
    Unlike you, it has so biological properties. This absurd joke is on you. Those who use this dummy to pretend cell phones are safe do not even try to have the dummy simulate any biological properties – no nervous system, muscles, brains, eyes, ears, teeth, saliva glands, lymph nodes, throats, thyroids or hearts, etc.
    Notice that by calling the dummy a SAR dummy they use an acronym which stands for SPECIFIC ABSORPTION RATE. This is an admission by those charged with overseeing global “safety” from cell phones that they have Specific Radiation as well as radiation Absorption risks.
    However, the SAR pretext and the resulting research makes certain to only discuss what is defined as measurable “thermal effects” on a plastic head which uses water as a substitute for human brains, with a thermometer immersed in this slowly heated water which is inside the SAR gel head’s hollow interior.
    Some justifiably call this the SAR Soup-head dummy.
    Causation of smart meter harm is not difficult to prove. Non thermal effects right down to the lowest possible exposure can be shown by the correct application of specialized thermographic refinement, as a way to observe how the lowest artificial electromagnetic pulses “cook” biological tissue. http://thermoguy.com/emf-education/
    The true function of the SAR dummy is to distract, not to clarify. Apparently it is rather easy to mislead non critical thinkers by employing such retrogressive non science, redirecting the observer away from the obvious, which is actually that the industry is pretending to measure just how MUCH absorption of a toxic substance is “safe”, while at the same time fooling the public into accepting the premise that continuous and cumulative exposure to radiation set below a certain level could ever be “safe”.
    This is rather like arguing that a slow cooker low heat crock pot which takes 12 hours to cook a meal would be safer to use for cooking your brain and body than would be a regular oven which takes only thirty minutes to cook the same meal. The end result is the same, only the time line differs.
    Which begs a larger question. Why is it easier than ever to mislead so many?
    In situ is a Latin phrase that translates literally to “on site” or “in position”. It means “locally”, “on site”, “on the premises” or “in place” to describe an event . Actually, even though the cell phone used in the SAR test is not in situ, no cell towers to be found, nevertheless the existence of the SAR dummy head unintentionally serves as an industry admission that the capacity for wireless microwave harm does exist. Of course the dummy is designed to reassure, not to reveal..
    Cargo cult science refers to practices that have the semblance of being scientific, but do not in fact follow the scientific method.
    Inadvertently, the SAR dummy head serves as the ULTIMATE proof of just how a false sense of safety is generated by the cel/mobile industry using cargo cult science to establish a sham, by pretending that this represents a global gold standard for safety.
    No test has ever been done for the smart grid – until VERY recently. A VERY significant smart meter test was done by an independent frequency measurement company in New York, measuring smart meters in situ. It was found that the tests registered dramatically dangerous levels of radiation, in fact way off the charts, as soon as every smart meter in situ registered the network intensity created by interaction with all the invisible frequencies enabled by and emitted from all other smart meters in situ in the region.
    The smart grid is a communications network.
    It incorporates the cell industry into the grid.
    The more people demand wireless phones the richer they get.
    Sadly most still have no real comprehension of the true danger level.
    Meanwhile, those who are able to “feel” the heat, to feel themselves cooking, are dismissed as either psychosomatic or psychiatrically compromised.
    Entire cultures are now becoming nomadic in search of frequency-free quiet zones, a hopeless task akin to Sisyphus doomed to roll a boulder uphill forever. Frequency induced suicide is on the rise.
    Multiple cell towers are pulled into play every single time any cell phone is turned on by yet another oblivious person who harms all around them without a second thought. Yet even cell phone frequencies are drowned out by the smart grid and cell towers used for both phones and meters are all excluded from the SAR dummy test,since the dummy head is sealed off by putting the gel head inside an anechoic chamber.

    Stunning how the world fell for this. Just how did so much of the world acclimate so readily to the concept of using microwaves, as if this was a perfectly reasonable thing to use in a home, much less on or near one’s own and one’s children’s bodies?
    The transition into microwave immersion in a wireless radiation laced world is not as mysterious as it seems. Most got there incrementally. It might begin with the radio, the one you used to increase the signal for by touching the antenna and thereby turning your whole body into a broadcasting antenna. Or maybe there was that Christmas purchase of a walkie talkie set able to broadcast 3/4 of a mile. Next thing you know you have a portable home phone with a channel changer built in, just in case someone hacks into and can hear your conversation on the unlicensed channel you happen to be using to broadcast your phone conversation. And then there is that upgrade when you learn that a portable phones are made in sets, with wireless secondary phones that talk to its base station from all over your home, while they all radiate non stop. Not a large step to go from this to a wireless modem and a laptop, since each wireless device insinuates itself into “modern” life in stages. Gadgets are seductive even when they are dangerous and even when the one with the most wireless toys wins – but dies sooner.

    • Snowy says:

      Back to the SAR dummy, the one they use to fool nearly everyone into believing that this wireless world is safe no matter how far wireless proliferation goes. The SAR dummy is used as the SOLE standard for the entire world for “safety” of all wireless cell based technology – and is approved by the IEEE – a board comprised of the military and those who own the cell industry which pretty much runs the world, three times more powerful than Big Pharma and growing fast thanks to wireless addiction spreading like a virus all over the planet – even though wireless actually gobbles way more electricity.
      So the industry uses a plastic head to tell the Big Lie that you are safe because the water inside the gel head definitely got hotter but not while using actual cell towers. It was deemed to have not actually overheated by one full degree, meaning they only cook your head a little – EACH TIME.
      Okay, so …
      Who falls for this kind of scam?
      People use wireless without a second thought because they cannot feel it altering their bodies. It is making bright people stupid, and since it triggers accelerated ageing it is also making young people age much faster, rapid die off along with wireless addiction. But for some reason almost no one notices, including most of those affected.
      For some reason, millions of otherwise intelligent people still don’t “get” what is happening here. The shell game is to have everyone think the level of exposure is low, even though it is in fact accumulating continuously inside your brain, heart and that of your infant baby.
      The “standard for the entire planet is this: The dummy has to be placed inside a chamber so as to do a test without interference, which is pretty ironic since the way a cell phone works is by accepting just that, interference from triangulating cell towers. But it is deemed essential for the SAR dummy head to be able for this test to escape from electrosmog. Would that the rest of us were so lucky.
      So this means that the SAR dummy is not actually connecting to cell towers when they test it. They use other means to heat the water. Just as long as the water inside the SAR dummy head does not reach a full degree hotter, then it and you are deemed to be safe.
      Knowing that the head honchos for the military and the mobile industry are stacked six deep on the board of the international IEEE which uses the SAR standards because, of course, they are only interested in looking out for your well being, do you feel safer now?
      You are told that the SAR “proves” that it is just fine to continue to plaster a wireless microwave emitting flesh cooker against the side of your brainpan in order to use several cell towers to tell your mate that you are on your way home for a microwave “cooked” dinner.
      The oscillating magnetron is the heart of any microwave oven, produceing a 2450 MHz frequency which converts 60 hertz voltage from your outlet into microwave energy which denatures food by generating radio frequencies as heat which radiates RF energy inside the plastic cooking cavity which is absorbed by food. Thing is, the food is not so much cooked as it’s DNA is “altered”. The catch is that although this is also true for a regular oven, with microwaves it is no longer food. Your body is unable to recognize microwaved food’s nutritional value.
      Microwave ovens, zigbee chips and many other wireless networks operate on very nearly the same electromagnetic frequency (between 2.4 and 2.5 GHz).
      The internal workings of microwave ovens can and do develop a burned antenna caused by arcing due to back feeding microwave energy. Connectors can slip onto the magnetron filament terminals, become loose or are already improperly crimped, causing a buildup of resistive heat as the connection further deteriorates. A tiny burned spot on the magnetron insulator, after each each subsequent cook cycle progressively produces stronger arcing and burning. A very powerful electrical charge remains stored inside the high voltage capacitor, even when the malfunctioning microwave oven is unplugged and “stored” away, even when disconnected from your electrical system, still dangerous, especially if the capacitor is still not completely discharged.
      The microwave oven remains unquestioned (except in Russia where they are banned), ubiquitous despite the fact that it is a dangerous appliance. It produces RF much like a radio transmitter in a smart meter.
      Being exposed to high levels of microwave radiation leakage can cause cataracts and burns. A large leak from a microwave oven can light up an RF emitting fluorescent lightbulb held in your hand. A leaking microwave EMI gasket causes sparks to fly off a set of metal keys held near the door.
      Microwaves corrode metal so ovens are usually made of plastic. Plastic wears, cracks, warps, gets dented and bent, and soon breaks. The microwave oven often leaks microwaves, either right away or within the first year. Leakage is common and can reach 30 feet or more. It’s often located above a wall oven, in line with your head, or maybe it’s sitting on a kitchen counter in line with your baby’s highchair.
      After dinner baby is off to bed. Is there an RF emitting baby monitor stretching 1000 feet or more beyond your home’s envelope – and which, like any network circuit, can be hacked? How many settle in for a few hours on the wireless modem while using the iPad or iPhone?
      How many mistook freedom for having a choice to buy every wireless device? How many never understood that the world is wired for very good reasons?
      Even some electricians have fallen for the very thing that is putting them out of work, the elimination of wiring itself, the introduction of WITRICITY, the ultimate travesty, a completely wireless home which already exists right now. Even some electricians who use cell phones forgot that there are very real life or death reasons why they were taught to safely twist home wires together, in order to cancel out fields which would otherwise be dangerous to occupants. Can anyone ignore the value of wires, ignore cell towers and smart towers radiating the entire atmosphere we breathe and cannot escape from, unaware that we are an integral part of every inch of all of it?
      But then again, we decided to trust others when this radiation was persuasively pitched as a powerful promise, a wonderful convenience. No one mentioned how inconvenient cancer is.
      Then suddenly a big question arises If this is so good, how come FORCIBLE installation of a smart meter? Caught in our own web of illusion we suddenly awaken. And are promptly called hypocrites because no one gave INFORMED consent. No one knew yet that the government is always in lag to the truth if not busy downright obscuring it, or that your private valuable data is the new gold rush, so industry and government commodified you into being nothing more than a mere data bank.
      Face it, if you’ve got sunlight get off grid as fast as you can before the utilities clean out your bank account and develop penalties for divorcing them, already in the works.
      Industry has NEVER looked out for you or me, they are tracking your phone gadget right now. So it is no wonder so many just haven’t make these connections until they went too far, no surprise that when you don’t say no to these thugs you just said yes, no wonder that technological trespass is considered doable and property rights are evaporating at top speed.
      But so be it, if this is what it takes to realize that that we are no longer the owners of our own toys, that they now own us, because they have been turned on us as data extraction tools, exposure at unprecedented levels by countless wireless gadgets on all sides, inside and outside the sanctuaries we call home.
      The reality is that there are no acceptable levels of exposure to artificial radar technology called wireless.
      None.
      Safe levels are a term that is meaningless.
      ARPANSA is in essence enabling.
      Look closely at what they are actually doing, Day in and day out people are told they can be around something that is radiation – so long as it does not go over a certain level. But that only means for that minute. What about if it is every minute? What about when it never shuts off? What happens to your body, organs, when your liver reaches its radiation limit? Who offered to forfeit your brain waves, your heart rhythms? Your children? Your gene pool?
      They and you are altered by so called acceptable levels of radar approved by ARPANSA.

      A dental x-ray is said to be “safe” by government and other “authorities” who measure the amount in one snapshot dosage in isolation to all other exposure and then deem it “safe”.
      How many dentists ask you how many x-rays you have already had in your life?
      None.
      How many give you a lead apron?
      How many non dentists moonlight as meter installers?
      How many temp labourers violate code and hot swap while they use your meter base as a circuit breaker, a current interrupter, and manage to void the safety rating for the meter base by slapping an electrically incompatible device on a conventional meter socket, setting in motion arcing and corrosion of your home wiring, while undoing your home’s insurability?
      How many installers politely ask if it is okay to install their radiation equipment in or on your home in order to leave the smart non ionizing version of an x-ray on all the time for the rest of your life, possibly arcing behind the meter when they happen to slightly bend that one jaw while rushing the stabs into position and shoving all of them into the jaws fast, to avoid electrocution?
      None.
      But what the heck, out of sight out of mind, right?
      Smart grid wireless utility corporations do precisely this.
      Safety for all radiation, ionizing and non ionizing, is presented by the “government” to an often gullible and uninformed public in a compartmentalized way in order to distract and deflect from the reality of what is going on and on going.
      Safety is not defined or determined by cumulative exposure despite the fact that continuous and cumulative exposure is the issue as well as to what one is exposed. .
      Nor is “safety” determined by continuous exposure.
      Wireless is both cumulative and continuous.
      NO matter how low the level of exposure, that level is cancelled out by the fact that the radiation is always “on” and is both cumulative and continuous exposure.
      This approach to rendering the world wireless uses one situation at a time, uses entrapment on your doorstep, and disregards all other sources of wireless while it gets people to only focus on one here or one over there, one on my house, forget about the one on yours or his or hers. This is a web with a giant spider at its centre.
      That spider has got to go.
      In reality, every time any frequency intersects with any other frequency the two create a third new frequency.
      It is literally the wild west out there, lawless and unregulated and sheer madness.
      Biology is assaulted continuously by those who cannot feel their DNA shredding.
      When it comes to SAR safety, consider the source, one has to look closely at who or what is talking about it.
      Governmental health agencies used to use the phrase “acceptable levels of lead”.
      However they also said there were acceptable levels of thalidomide.
      Erin Brockovich skewered PG&E of more recent smart meter fame when they denied that “UNacceptable levels of exposure to hexavalent chromium (also written as “chromium VI”, “Cr-VI” or “Cr-6”) in drinking water were being ignored. Would acceptable levels of poison have been okay
      The reality is that there are no acceptable levels of poison.
      Wireless is poison which alters and cooks biology rendering it no longer biology,. Living flesh with full bio-electrical properties was never meant to interact with artificial radar technology called wireless.
      Those who rationalize amounts of poison are already way down the slippery slope.
      An epidemic will result from those overseeing the global smart grid while saying that nature will “adapt”.
      Say what?
      Will dolphins “adapt” to sonar?

    • Dead already says:

      Powercor/CitiPower smart meter spokespersons admit that smart meters were never tested on humans. Well why are we bothering at all with safety standards? If power companies can impose a device on us that affects us 24/7 without bothering to test it properly, then let’s all drink ‘safe’ baby formula from China, and clad our homes in ‘safe’ asbestos sheet from James Hardie, and so on and so forth.

  100. Olivia says:

    I’ve been having trouble accessing your facebook site and can’t open the page any more. Is it just me or has it disappeared?

    • Tanya says:

      Olivia, there are ongoing problems with the facebook page which cannot be quickly resolved. Hope you enjoy this website in the meantime. Explore the menus to see what’s changed since you last looked at them.

  101. Anonymous says:

    http://www.arpansa.gov.au/pubs/emr/analysis12-13.pdf
    In agreement with this report ASPANSA received TWENTY TWO complains about Smart meters.

    People, please move your……
    Download form http://www.arpansa.gov.au/pubs/emr/repform.doc
    Fill it in and post to them. Otherwise they will keep their head in sand and keep saying “no idea what’s going on”

  102. Anonymous says:

    What a great idea Ross Holder to let people on here know of properties which are available to rent or buy that have no smart meter and locked meter box etc. It could be a great service to those who visit this site who are needing to move and who wish to avoid a smart meter on the property.

    There is a older-style four-bedroom beachside properly I know of becoming available for long term rent in Anglesea on the Victorian surfcoast west of Geelong which has no smart meter, a locked meter box, and owners who are committed to keeping it without a smart meter. The house is on the edge of a state park with only two close neighbours so I would assume exposure to wifi and smart meters from neighbours would be more limited than in the middle of a town or residential area? The property is to be listed with Hayden Real Estate in Anglesea and I have looked up their phone number: (03) 52632133. Hope it is helpful to someone?

  103. Peter says:

    Wow! Two articles on wifi in one day put out by channel 7.
    I have to say, the first, regarding Sofia’s situation was very poorly presented, whether by intention or ignorance is debatable. I was very pleased that Sofia was able to get in, the fact that United Energy had reneged on a deal to install a manually read meter.

    https://au.tv.yahoo.com/sunrise/video/watch/24253120/allergic-to-electricity/
    https://au.news.yahoo.com/nsw/a/24259295/wi-fi-dangers/

    The article below shows how desperate ARPANSA has become over their failure to update their standards regarding ‘modern technology’, as it appears to contradict their own fact sheet 14!

    http://www.arpansa.gov.au/RadiationProtection/Factsheets/is_smartmeters.cfm

  104. Snowy says:

    The essence of simplicity – (Note: not advisable for those who are not capable of thinking strategically on their feet or are not able to take their cue for what each response should be, based o the logical absurdity and sheer nonsense spouted by the installer, nor is it suitable as an approach to be used by those who cannot follow a script)

    An Actual Conversation (only applies if the country is still under English Law and Common Law and has not yet been sold off for foreign ownership)

    After repeat refusal at lower levels a senior rep for the utility called the customer.

    An “authoritative” sounding man with a lawyerly demeanour spoke:

    Utility Rep: ” We will be installing…..(blah blah)”

    Customer: “I don’t want one.”

    Utility Rep: “We have the Authority granted by the Clean Energy Act”

    Customer: “That wasn’t given Royal Assent so your Authority is invalid”

    Utility Rep: (silence)

    Then…

    Utility Rep: “We also have the Power Authority Act, and the Electric Tariff regulated by the Utilities Commission under the Utilities Commission Act. ”

    Customer: “Those Acts are also invalid since they weren’t given Royal Assent either”

    Utility Rep: (silence again)

    Utility Rep (raised voice): “Well we’re installing it anyway”

    Customer (calm voice): “Then I will launch a lawsuit against the utility, their agents, partners, subcontractors, installers, and the Province”

    Utility (quiet voice): “Okay, we’ll just leave things as they are then”.

    Customer: “Thank you….”

    No further problems.
    ____________________________________
    Transcript for a Hypothetical Conversation (in a location where the utility originally insisted that millions of customers purchase their own analogue meters)

    (sub) Contractor (installer): I’m here to change your meter…

    Subscriber (customer): What if I don’t want your meter?

    C: The Utility will fine you $65 every time you refuse…

    S: Let’s say I take your meter, will the replacement belong to me?

    C: No, it will be the property of the Utility…

    S: Are you aware that the existing meter belongs to me?

    C: Yes, I realize that…

    S: I’m supposed to give you my meter in exchange for the utility’s meter, and they claim ownership?

    C: I’m just the installer, you’ll have to ask the Utility that question.

    S: I’d like to ask the Utility. Can you come back another time?

    C: Yes, but I’ll have to charge you $65 for a failed attempt….

    S:…Are you saying you will charge me to fail to remove my own meter and exchange it for the utility’s meter? So, the swapped in meter will not be mine to keep after the change out?

    C: No, your exchange meter now becomes the property of the Utility…

    S: Wouldn’t that be considered theft of my meter?

    C: You’ll have to take that up with the Utility..

    S: So, let me get this straight – You want to replace my meter with one that belongs to the Utility, you want to usurp my meter ownership, you want to charge me $32.40 plus tax per month for using the Utility’s meter, and you want to run off with my meter?

    C: Yep…

    S: So, taking into consideration the millions of meters the Utility has already taken and then replaced, are we not talking about grand theft here?

    C: You’ll have to ask the Utility about that, … or perhaps a lawyer.

  105. Anonymous says:

    Queenslanders beware! It looks as though your government is following Victoria’s lead and is going to sell your electricity grid off to foreign investors. We Victorians have learned the hard way, that in doing so, they sell off all your rights to protection against corporate thugs!
    Without a doubt, your government will do the same as the Victorian government and give these foreign investors free rain as far as tactics go, to force the installation of these surveillance and control devices. They certainly haven’t the guts to do the dirty work themselves!

    • Happy Dissenter says:

      Just resist like we have down here. Ask the installers/ people who phone you at home from the energy companies if you have broken the law and will you be arrested?? Stops them dead in their tracks. They haven’t got a leg to stand on and they know it!!! Tell all your friends and neighbours to tell THEM to naff off. 🙂 Tell them about the support and information they will receive on this site. The reality is a tier of government is doing the biding of a private company. Pfffttt!!!!

      • Peter says:

        If Queensland do as NSW are doing, they won’t even bother to tell their customers, they will just turn up and install their surveillance and control devices.
        My advise is lock your meter boxes and put your signs up NOW! Don’t wait until it is too late!
        With Joe Hockey advising all states to sell off all essential services, it is quite certain that is what they will do, so again, I advise the people of ALL Australian states to act now, lock your meter boxes and put up your signs, this should tell your state governments you will not accept being dictated to by corporate thugs.

  106. Tanya says:

    Last night on the TV news there was a story about Chanel No 5 perfume causing allergies.

    I immediately saw the link between Chanel No 5 perfume causing allergies and the EHS issue. After all these years (92 years) we’re hearing that some people are having an allergic reaction to Chanel No 5. Bureaucrats are saying that Chanel has a duty to provide a perfume that is safe for its users. They want Chanel to remove the dangerous ingredients from the perfume.

    But after a similar period of electrification, and even shorter period of radio frequencies (I assume), people are developing allergic reactions to electricity and RF. And they don’t have much choice to not use it. They have to move to the middle of nowhere in order to not use it. So why the hell don’t the bureaucrats think the power companies have a duty of care to provide safe electricity? Is it more important to smell nice than have safe power?

    • Jason says:

      A small correction:- You don’t have to move to the middle of nowhere to avoid ‘smart meters’; you can simply refuse to have one installed.
      And at the end of the day you need to be prepared to disconnect from the grid.
      You can do this in the suburbs as well as anywhere else, and given the ever-decreasing cost of ‘stand-alone’ system components (solar/wind/whatever) such an option, while being a bit less convenient than grid-connection, is certainly viable.

      Meanwhile, if somebody has a property available ‘out in the middle of nowhere’ perhaps they’d get in touch with me with a view to selling it ~ or swapping it for a smart-meter-free (and staying that way –> solar power) house in town a little under an hour from the CBD.

  107. Peter says:

    With reference to the article on the home page which says:

    ‘A State Government spokesperson said a new technical study had been commissioned to “confirm” the electro-magnetic fields from smart metres continue to fall well within the national radiation standards set by the Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency’.

    This is yet another attempt by the Victorian government, to waste more time and money only to confirm yet again an issue that no one disagrees with! Of course the emissions’ fall within the ARPASA standards, those standards were written years before the roll out started and do not consider the specific effects of continuous radiation in close proximity to sleeping infants and adults, or the effect they are having on people who are now suffering ill effects from them!

    The ARPANSA fact sheet 14 makes very clear that ARPANSA is well aware of the possible effects of radiation from wireless devices, but refuse to even mention so called smart meters, preferring to compare them with mobile phones, baby monitors and the like, none of which are ‘compulsory’ nor do they operate every few seconds 24/7!

    The statement doesn’t say who will be doing the study, no doubt it will be some one with a vested interest in the continued roll out, or some one ‘under the governments thumb’, either way they government will get the report it wants, it certainly will not be ‘independent’!

    If the government were genuinely concerned, (obviously they are not!) then they should be looking at statistics showing where people are falling ill in relation to where these devices are installed and how many became ill after the installation of one of these devices, this would surely be a more accurate indicator of whether they are a health issue or not?

  108. Eric says:

    A comment from a poster on another website regarding smart meters.

    This is NOT a “meter. It is NETWORK MANAGEMENT AND COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT NODE, as well as containing 3 transmitters and a semi lethal SMPS. In fact what we think of as a meter is not a meter since it is only capable of virtual estimation of usage based on ambient energy in the vicinity and beyond and since it shares all data with up to 5000 other non meters. all linked into one continuous circuit, Historically, that is a first and violates all kinds of laws and amendments. So this is a data extraction single node in a data extraction communications separate second wireless grid communications network (not to be confused with an energy delivery system), a microwave enabling and generating node that uses your home and uninsulated wiring and money to run a system which privatizes data profits for corporations and socializes structural and all other costs and losses – to “customers” . It is an assault on private property rights in multiple ways.

  109. Truthseekers says:

    Why has Sophia been left without power for 3 months without someone taking this to A Current Affair for example and making public her battle??? Is this too hot a topic and would they even dare air it???

    • Peter says:

      The sad fact is, mainstream media don’t want to get involved with any major issues concerning ‘smart meters’. Only the local media outlets seem to take any interest in these issues. The question is, why Is this so? Has the media been warned off by the Victorian government?

  110. Happy Dissenter says:

    The good work this site is doing is being noticed around the country. Check out this blog post about refusing smart meters in another state. http://www.echo.net.au/2014/04/opposition-smart-meters/

  111. Eric says:

    re. Dirty Electricity from ‘Smart’ Meters: Answers from the Experts
    http://stopsmartmeters.org/2013/12/03/dirty-electricity-from-smart-meters-answers-from-the-experts/

  112. Happy Dissenter says:

    Small mercies I suppose….take a gander at this article about SP Ausnet. Keep your gates and meter boxes locked!!! http://www.itnews.com.au/News/385550,sp-ausnet-vic-smart-meter-rollout-delayed-indefinitely.aspx

  113. Ross Holder says:

    Anybody in the market for a non-smart meter house in the Frankston area? My house is on the market and I have successfully kept my meter box locked and kept my interval meter at the property. I fear that this will change when the house is sold to sheeple who will not have the courage to maintain the fight, and will soon be coerced into a smart meter installation.

    Please understand I am not trying to take advantage of anyone. Leave a reply if you are interested. It is listed with local agents, and it will sell, hopefully to the right person. Thanks.

    • Ross Holder says:

      ….which is my concern precisely. I am sure that EMR has deleterious effects on many people, my mother being one of them. My major objection to smart meters is their potential use as a control device, which will be used to undermine basic freedoms such as Freedom of Speech.

      Picture this…. currently the internet allows dissent through Facebook, personal blogs, webpages like this one, etc. Imagine what will happen when someone finds out that you are criticising the government? BANG! They turn off your power, and the criticism stops. There is no chance that you can spread any of your ‘poisonous’ and ‘dangerous’ ideas, or that (shock horror) that other people may find the courage to think for themselves based on your example.

      George Orwell (1984) — ‘He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past.’

  114. Leonie says:

    Am having solar installed today. The installer last night informed me that I need to have a change of meter and that it’s compulsory. I live in NSW. He’s not sure what brand it is – he’s sub contracted an electrician for the install. I’m wondering if this is going to be a smart meter and if I have any say in the matter i.e. is it really compulsory? Thoughts?

    • Peter says:

      Leonie
      As I understand the situation in NSW, ‘smart meters’ are not compulsory, in SA they are not compulsory either. No doubt they will try and tell you that you have to have one. Ask the installer what legislation states ‘it is compulsory’ to have a smart meter.
      In actual fact, I have asked these questions of the Victorian government and had no reply, so I assume they are not compulsory in Victoria either!!!!!!!!

    • Citizen for Democracy says:

      For solar you need an input-output meter, which is an electronic/digital meter (a smart meter without the wireless component). BUT, they will try and tell you that you need a smart meter. They will play on the fact that most people don’t understand the difference between a smart meter and an electronic or digital meter. They will also play with words using the term digital meter for a smart meter and vice-versa.
      My suggestion is stand your ground – do NOT accept a meter that wirelessly broadcasts your power consumption data, only accept a meter if it still needs to be manually read by a meter reader.
      Good luck and remember – smart meters are NOT mandatory in NSW.

      • Snowy says:

        Actually,no one “needs” a digital meter for solar, analogs always worked well with solar. But if you enter a grid tied contract, then of course the utility calls the shots. With electronics developing at lightning speed, it represents a huge challenge to find a “clean” rf free digital meter. This is not a search which any utility is likely to facilitate readily, since their profit margin is in data control and resales, data for its own sake, market driven as “NON PUBLIC INFORMATION DERIVATIVES” .
        These days almost every digital meter is upgradeable with the addition of “personality modules” (software) to convert them to full on “smart” whenever they want .
        The ideal would be to get out of the clutches of utility corporations, systematically pare back on kwh usage, use those savings to buy a few good quality deep cycle batteries and a gen set.
        Complexity is overrated.
        Modernity is often a trap.
        It is possible to prioritize energy needs versus proliferating energy wants, to create a lean yet comfy lifestyle and still go off grid altogether.
        Using DC power and heatex secondary wiring for a 12 volt system eliminates inverter transient problem. And solar panels minus inverters are more affordable than ever. In fact DIY is even more affordable .
        RV or caravan camping as a wonderful model of what is possible with voluntary simplicity. The same principles can be applied to a house, instead of being “upsold” a system to run what may be an unnecessarily over powered home. If you figure out in advance how many kilowatts you really need to use and how many things you use you really need, it gets easier to consider the benefits of off grid.
        If you are not actually going off grid but instead enter into a new contract with the power company for a net metering arrangement that’s a whole new contract.
        The utility will most certainly leverage that dependency to insist on converting any potentially “forever theirs” customer to use their “compulsory” digital devices, which almost everywhere are now designed as a digital meter which transmits usage data from your home to one or more cell towers.
        Grid tied: You are the one who invests your own money in your own system. There may be a small subsidy or grant out there that encourages you to stay married to the utility, so to speak, which pays you a low ball wholesale price for your spare energy from your own investment, your home power plant, and then marks it up and sells it retail to others in your neighbourhood.
        Analog single phase electromechanical meters were the original net meters for solar for grid tied and they worked like a charm. The dial face ones just run backwards. No digital is indispensably necessary as a way to measure power – except to the power corporation.
        One way to save wear and tear on electronics and health as well as to block data (if you are not going to choose to share your data by being grid tied) is to get an electrician to install a home filter for your whole service panel to smooth out and eliminate all those transients now on all transmission lines and in the air waiting to couple to all your home’s your wiring and phone lines, etc, whether you have a s/meter or not.

        • Truthseekers says:

          Appreciate all info posted Snowy, and as we suspected their was no need to change from analog to digital meter when we had our solar panels installed a few years ago. It was only for corporate benefit. What would be the average cost to set up an off grid system as you described?? Our cottage is 12 sqs and just the two of us are here. Have kept SP AusNet at bay for the last 12 months and we will not consent to a smart meter under any circumstances. Are there electricians out there ‘switched on’ enough (pardon the pun) to be able to install the home filter that you described?? Thanks in advance.

          • Snowy says:

            The cost to go off grid is really completely an individual consideration, systems can be $6,000 or $60,000, since one person’s idea of an essential necessity is anther persons’s idea of pure luxury and vice versa . For instance I know a couple who live in a small home. They turned a fridge into an ice box, insulated it on the outside with straw bales, and placed it in the coolest part of the home, the NE corner. For evening ambient lighting they use battery operated puck led lights. oil lamps, candles, wood heat and partial wood stove cooking, plus a BBQ as well as a small power outage oven and three burner gas stove, essentially cooking outdoors in a screened well ventilated but weather protected european style semi outdoor kitchen area. They have a 3500 kw gen set which can draw well water into the HW tank, then heat it to shower or run the washer. They line dry clothes indoors and out. They use eight 6 volt golf cart deep cycle batteries which hold a charge longer than four 12 volt ones, plus they use just four solar panels, They have a raised bed intensive lush outdoor year round veggie garden. In short, they live an ultra simple lifestyle with necessities, no extras … By contrast, another single person I know built a thick walled adobe type house, which keeps all frequencies out due to the chicken wire and the faraday effect. The home is large but open and very easy to heat and easy to keep cool. There is one large central ceramic wood stove designed to be cooked on, one small boiler system for in-floor heating, a gravity fed water supply. Whereas someone else I know has a large propane generator and large tanks, all of it tied directly into the service panel, plus propane on demand hot water heater, propane fridge, propane range.
            Propane appliances may run forever if well maintained but they are astronomically priced and hard to locate. Add to that an automatic propane generator tie-in that services the panel for all else, which runs the house at pretty much the same level as when they were on grid – well, that level of comfort and a simultaneous rather than sequential use of the home’s appliances is not for most budgets. The spread between these three lifestyles is probably 30 to 50 thousand dollars or more.
            One of the best systems I have seen they built a kachelofen (large thermal mass) as the heart of the home, heat and cooking all in one and uses almost no fuel, plus glass tubing on the roof for solar heated hot water.
            The lowest number of kwh you think you can reduce usage to determines the affordability. It is a personal choice. However anyone who makes it off grid remarks that self reliance is a satisfying way to stop being a gird junkie.
            It is usually not suited to those who want to travel for long periods of time -although even then, enough money can buy a system that will maintain itself with sealed batteries and auto battery top up systems, for those with deep pockets.

          • Snowy says:

            Any electrician worth their salt takes 20 to 40 minutes to install a whole house suppressor filter and ground it properly (that is, if you are going to use alternating current – on or off grid. They are used everywhere, commercially, since this saves hugely on transient destruction of sensitive electronics. Now more than ever, the trick is to get a very good one that lets you know and also protects you from microwaves as well as transients, as well as if a power surge or lightning occurs. Most don’t, they just silently die, no LED warning lights, so it helps to use what industry uses to be sure of protection and be certain to get a full 15 to 25 yr replacement at no cost warranty.

  115. susie says:

    i have written my letters and have told them in no uncertain terms I WILL NOT HAVE A DUMB METER INSTALLED AT MY PROPERTY. so i come home yesterday to find the installer here. i live on a farm and will not have one under any circumstances. so I’m thinking here we go. my meter box is locked with the sign on it. and much to my pleasant surprise i was encouraged by the installer to stand my ground and keep it locked. that is the second positive experience i have had. my last meter reader said the same and was explaining how to get off the grid cheaply…good blokes! I talked to this latest guy about how an anologue meter lasts 40 or 50 yrs and smart meter 5 or 10 yrs, he said quite definitley “if that!” he doesnt think theyll even last 5 yrs which i though was quite interesting.
    i will also post a link to a good short youtube video from a doctor about dangers of the meters, it would be good to get the trasnscript:

    • Truthseekers says:

      @susie If you don’t mind me asking, who is the distributor in your area?? Stay strong and beware they are always waiting in the wings to pounce and install. Have been fighting off SP AusNet for over 12 months but will never give in…..NO MANDATE NO OBLIGATION = NO CONSENT That is the TRUTH.

      Regards.

  116. Citizen for Democracy says:

    Look up! Live life the real way.

    http://stopsmartmeters.org.uk/look-up-by-gary-turk/

  117. Peter says:

    With reference to the home page article about no provisions made for people becoming ill after the installation of a surveillance and control devise, there are no provisions for anyone to deny consent for ANY reason!
    I believe this is because the Victorian government can be sued by the foreign owned investors in all our essential services! I distinctly remember O’Brien, shortly after the last election stating that they could not stop the roll out ‘because of contracts entered into by the previous government’. I believe it highly likely he was referring to an TPPA agreement.
    If you read the related links, you will see what I mean. It would appear from the second link, that even the government cannot read the full agreement!!!!!!!!!
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-trans-pacific-partnership-agreement-tppa-when-foreign-investors-sue-the-state/5357500
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-trans-pacific-partnership-we-wont-be-fooled-by-rigged-corporate-trade-agreements/5352612

  118. Sick Of Their Lies. says:

    Nine Reasons Why Today’s Smart Meter Systems Are a Mistake
    by Richard H. Conrad, Ph.D. biochemist:

    http://smartgridawareness.org/2014/04/18/nine-reasons-why-smart-meters-are-a-mistake/

  119. Truthseekers says:

    Received a letter today from SP AusNet after 2 weeks of constant harassment via text messages and phone calls which we screened and left unanswered. They are ‘planning’ to perform ‘maintenance’ on our property and replace our digital meter with a ‘smart meter’ which in their words is ‘industry standard. We have signage at the entry to our property with a chain across the driveway and signs inside the property and a locked meter box with signage etc. Have already sent a registered notice a year ago to the effect that we do NOT consent to a smart meter and they have completely ignored it. Am now about to send off an anti-harassment notice as per this site via registered post and wait to see what happens. They are due to install next week…..will not waste our time calling them, Sick to death of this bullying but will not back down We are looking at installing a gate but that will probably take at least a week.
    Any further suggestions folks??? Much appreciated.

    • Minnie says:

      Don’t call them as they will try and trap you. If they turn up tell them they are trespassing and ask them to leave your property. Get their name and all details. Ask them for their insurance indemnity number. make sure your no trespassing signs are up. Can you film them or even record the conversation? This would be a good idea.
      When the installer turns up ask them what they are on your property for. If they say to install a smart meter. tell them they are trespassing and they need to leave the property. If they do not leave immediately, ask them if they are refusing to leave the property. Give them three warnings, each time stating that they need to leave the property as they are trespassing. if they do not leave ask for all their details and inform them that if you decide to have them charged it will be in their personal name and not their companies.
      Also ask them what personal assets they have, tell them that if you need to you will hire a private investigator to find their assets. It is very serious if they refuse to leave your property. If they ask you if you are refusing a smart meter, tell them you do not consent and are not obligated to.
      Ask them who sent them, what is the persons name that gave them the orders. They are aiding and abetting and are also responsible. These are a few suggestions anyway.

      • Peter says:

        There are other ‘industry standard meters’, such as digital accumulative meters, I say yet again, THERE IS NO LAW WHICH SAYS IT IS COMPULSORY FOR DISTRIBUTORS TO INSTALL RADIO EMMITING OR INTERVAL METERS, and THERE IS NO LAW WHICH SAYS IT IS COMPULSORY FOR VICTORIAN CUSTOMERS TO HAVE ONE INSTALLED.

      • Truthseekers says:

        @Minnie……..Thanks so much….. Made a note of what either of us should be stating to them if trespass is encountered/committed. Very valuable advice. Have all our signs up and meter box continually locked as it has been for the past 12 months. Have even signed a Stat Dec with the local police regarding our signage and prohibiting any alteration to our existing meter or installation of a ‘smart’ meter. Just sent off an anti harassment notice this arvo and do not intend to open any further correspondence from them but will return to sender immediately.
        Cheers and much appreciated.

        • Minnie says:

          Dear Truthseekers, make sure you have proof you returned their letter. Get the post office to photocopy it and stamp it with their stamp.The post office can put their own sticker on it. It says return to sender, make sure they tick the unclaimed box and not the refused box this is very important. The post office sent my letter back with their sticker and i had them photocopy it and stamp it. if they won’t put their sticker on it write return to sender your self. make sure you photocopy it as proof. Also take a photo of the letter as proof it would not hurt, but the photocopy would be better. Or both

    • Minnie says:

      To Truthseekers, make sure you keep meticulous records of any harassment. Times, dates and.anything else. This is important as you have to show that they harassed you. Maybe keep a diary. Sending them anti-harassment notice is good. Did you ask for a return receipt?

    • Minnie says:

      One more thing truthseekers, you must not argue with the installer and be polite. And also understand what you are saying and be comfortable with what you are saying. More than likely if you say ,you do not consent they should leave.

      • Truthseekers says:

        Yes have a return receipt in the works so no probs there…..did that with our first notice. Thanks so much for all this. Has been a great help and will remain cool and calm if there is any confrontation.

  120. sue says:

    Yesterday I changed from Aus power and Gas to Origin, as it seemed a lot cheaper. So far I’ve staved off having a smart meter , as there is a problem with the meter box and they want us to fix it before they can install a smart meter and I have refused. We;ve been left alone since a woman phoned me before christmas, and I declined to agree. have I made a mistake? Origin’s paperwork looks very officious!

    • Peter says:

      Sue, I believe that Origin is a retailer, not a distributor, therefore they have nothing to do with the installation of surveillance and control devises, they call them ‘smart meters’.
      If their paper work says anything about surveillance and control devices, draw a line through it, initial and dated it and say you do not consent the installation of such devices.

  121. Peter says:

    With regard to the Victorian government ‘health audit’, what exactly does that mean? Unfortunately, with the roll out so far advanced and so much customers money having been extracted from our pockets, I believe that regardless of the outcome of whatever it is, the Victorian government/distributors will not change their belligerent/arrogant attitude towards the people of Victoria!
    I think most of us would have been more relieved to hear of an audit of the ARPASA standards, the democratic rights of Australians and the privacy rights of Victorians!

  122. fernando ramirez says:

    Hello, has anyone experience any tooth aches after the integration of smart meters? My friends Adam, Juan, and Eric believe I am crazy and that smart meter health hazards are a lie.

    • Minnie says:

      I get toothaches it is usually one tooth that hurts and the pain starts from my head and goes to my ear and tooth. No you are not crazy, people that tell the truth are usually labeled crazy, neurotic, or evil. I don’t have a smart meter, I think the problem is coming from outside.

      • Gwen says:

        I don’t have a smartmeter but something has gone up on the electricity pole that’s not far from my bedroom window. I have bad headaches and an earache on the left side.
        I was told by a man at powercors smartmeter centre that it was all in my head!

    • sue says:

      Have you got mercury (metal) fillings?

    • Tanya says:

      Fernando,

      teeth pain is one of the many symptoms of exposure to ElectroMagnetic Radiation. For me, it is not the same as a normal tooth-ache. It is a pain spread over the surface of the tooth, usually only one tooth.

      Also, within months of smart meters being installed in my area, one of my amalgam fillings disintegrated. This is also a symptom of EMR exposure. The EMR draws the mercury out of the filling, causing it to disintegrate. And the resulting consumption of that mercury sure isn’t going to do the person any good either. So if any of your amalgam fillings disintegrate, you would be wise to get them replaced with porcelain fillings. Porcelain fillings don’t last as long, but they are safer. But I don’t recommend you replace your amalgam fillings if they are intact as you will be exposing yourself to the mercury in the process. Research on the internet how amalgam fillings should be removed and then check first if your dentist follows those recommended guidelines. My dentist didn’t.

  123. SmartyPants says:

    Collection of information concerning Trespass:

    These few documents should be more than enough information as a starting point for anyone who would like to begin the process of charging an installer for Trespass.

    One must remeber, trespass can only apply once the implied right is removed. Either by sign / written notice / or verbal request to leave the property and there is non compliance.

    You also have 6 years to deal with the issue of trespass, so there is no “instant” rush to begin legal action.

    We are all aware that the distributore “believe” they have “LAWFUL / LEGAL” authority to do so, but the common law would have nothing of it. Section 3.3 of the Electricity Distribution Code confers no relevant power to create an implication that a contractor may acquires power to enter upon private land without the leave or licence of the person in possession or entitled to possession thereof, for the specific purpose to install a “smart meter”.

    A Brief Look at Trespass to Land
    http://exfacie.com/?q=a_brief_look_at_trespass_to_land

    Plenty v Dillon [1991]
    http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1991/5.html

    RUMBLE v LIVERPOOL PLAINS COUNCIL
    http://freepdfhosting.com/d17f336fec.pdf

    Flora News on Land ownership
    http://www.religiousword.com/wp-content/uploads/Fee-Simple-Explained.pdf

    • Citizen for Democracy says:

      Thank-you for sharing this article, Happy Dissenter.
      Judging by the huge number of comments to it (93), it looks like South Australians are a truly educated and well informed people. Power to them!
      Unfortunately, Victorians were duped by the lies of their government, which was complicit with the power companies, before they even knew what was happening or what a smart meter was. They will pay a huge cost for years to come.
      The caption under the picture in this article says ‘British electricity consumer Vasiliki Erophile with a smart meter’. That is NOT TRUE. Vasiliki is a woman from Victoria who went public last year about how her smart meter ruined her health by causing constant ringing in her ears, which was stopping her from sleeping and left her always tired.
      See: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/north/northcote-resident-says-smart-meter-caused-her-tinnitus/story-fnglenug-1226696426024

    • Ada says:

      Victorians were ambushed, but South Australians can still save themselves if they resist the temptation to be complacent about the issue of smart meters.

    • Minnie says:

      I went to see my Doctor today and he told me that all doctor’s are now aware of the Governments safety audit. I suggest if anyone thinks that they are hypersensitive they go and see their doctor.

      • Happy Dissenter says:

        Great feedback thanks. I think the more exposed SMs are the more consumers will arch up and resist in other states. I am a “Happy Dissenter”, most commentators on this site are, so where we stick together, we will prevail. G-d bless.

    • Minnie says:

      In the newspaper today, VICTORIANS will be slugged $400 in higher electricity bills to subsidise those with solar panels.

      • Happy Dissenter says:

        I read that too Minnie. Now what happened to that People’s Revolution?? (non-violent of course ) I am a religious person, so I shall be praying we have a tipping-point whereby justice prevails over this wanton greed. I’ve just about had it.

  124. Peter says:

    Hi All

    Is this why the Victorian government refuse to do any thing about FOREIGN OWNED investment companies?
    Can the Chinese and Singapore government owned investors in our electricity grid sue us because we DO NOT CONSENT to throw our money at their investments?

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-trans-pacific-partnership-agreement-tppa-when-foreign-investors-sue-the-state/5357500

    • Gwen says:

      Peter, I knew that our power was bought by Chinese investors but I didn’t know the CHINESE GOVERNMENT has a stake in it. The slight glimmer of democracy will be stamped out soon if good people do nothing and keep saying that this is the way the world is going and you can’t change it. Go People Power Victoria!(good people doing something)!

  125. Trevor Churchill says:

    BBC Panorama Wi Fi A Warning Signal 3 YouTube

    The Swedish Government estimates that 3% of their Population suffer this (EMR) disability

    Panorama visited a school in Norwich, with more than 1,000 pupils, to compare the level of radiation from a typical mobile phone mast with that of Wi-Fi in the classroom.

    Readings taken for the programme showed the height of signal strength to be three times higher in the school classroom using Wi-Fi than the main beam of radiation intensity from a mobile phone mast.

    Panorama spoke to a number of scientists who questioned the safety limits and were concerned about the possible health effects of such radiation.

  126. Kate says:

    Got a letter in the mail from United Energy once again telling me they want to install a SM. I rang the number provided to once again say “I don’t consent to have one installed” The nice man I spoke to tried to allay my fears about the electro magnetic stuff by telling that I was experiencing more electro magnetic stuff while talking to him on my cordless home phone (Not a Mobile phone) than I would experience from a Smart Meter. He went on to tell me that an appointment has been made for us to have one installed on Monday 14th April (News to me I can tell you!) He has cancelled that appointment on their system but tells me it is still quite possible for the installer to show up Monday to fit it.

    Now can anyone tell me… Is is true that the companies don’t have the software or whatever it is to do Smart Meter reading electronically? I heard someone on 3aw a week or so ago saying that none of the Electricity Companies have the capability to read these meters without sending a person out to read them. Could this be true?

    And lastly does any one know if the Govt have finished their “final” enquiry into the safety of Smart Meters?

    Thanks Kate

    • Peter says:

      Kate, make sure your meter box is LOCKED and signs erected, if you don’t, they WILL fit a surveillance and control devise, with, or without your consent! Once they have fitted one of these things, they will refuse to change it back! Read Sofia’s’ story.

      My advise has always been, DO NOT SPEAK TO THEM ON THE PHONE! If they have anything to say, IT MUST BE IN WRITING!

      Written communication takes longer, and gives you time to absorb and check what has been said and enables you to respond appropriately. The people you are dealing with, have heard most of the complaints and along with their legal advisers have worked out set answers. (mostly misleading rubbish!)

      The ESV final review can be found here:
      http://www.esv.vic.gov.au/Portals/0/About%20ESV/Files/whats%20new/FINAL%20ESV%20smart%20meter%20safety%20report%2031%207%2012.pdf

      This report clearly shows that the review has only taken into consideration, out of date Australian Standards, standards’, which do not consider the ‘new technology’ of surveillance and control devise specific issues, and submissions from companies with a vested interest in the AMI roll out.

    • liz says:

      Hello Kate and all others~~

      I received a letter from SP Ausnet (dated 28/3/14-recived 7/4/14) re: an appointment they have made with themselves to install a smart meter at my home on Thursday 10th April between 7am-6pm, giving me two days notice!
      I am instructed to have the area around analog meter clear and accessible. I have to date been able to verbally refuse installation when contractors have arrived (x3), but this is the first letter that I have received a notice of appointment.
      I do not yet have a locked meter box in situ but do have a crate screwed to the wall covering the meter but allowing a visual for reading meter use, and all signage in situ as advised.
      I rang SP Ausnet on Wed. 9th April to once again register my refusal of a smart meter (the call was recorded on both ends of the line) and i was informed that they may still keep this appointment as they may not be able to contact the installer in time to cancel the appointment.
      Yesterday, 10/4/14 at 10.00am, the SP Ausnet contractor parked out the front of my house. Anticipating his arrival, I was waiting on guard in my front yard. I approached his van and asked if I could help him, he said that he was looking for 60 St.Andrews street, I said this was it. He then said “I have come to install a smart meter” I said “I registered my refusal for a smart meter with SP Ausnet 12mths ago and again yesterday”. His reply: “Oh what, another one?, they never tell me about customer refusals, they have my number, all they have to do is call me….it would save alot of time”, “sorry to bother you Luv, I will sign you off as refused…even though they already knew, have a nice day”.
      The contractor didn’t even get out of his car, he was polite and caused me no grief.
      NOTE:
      WHAT PREDOMINATELY STANDS OUT IN KATE’S AND MY EXPERIENCE IS, ALTHOUGH THE POWER COMPANIES KNOW WE DO NOT WANT A SM, THEY SEND THE CONTRACTORS ANYWAY IN CHANCE WE ARE NOT HOME GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO INSTALL WHEREVER POSSIBLE UNKNOWING OF THE CUSTOMERS REGISTERED REFUSAL. AS THE CONTRACTOR SAID…”THEY COULD JUST CALL ME, THEY HAVE MY NUMBER”!!!
      Warm regards to all,

      Liz Crooks

      City of Whittlesea Smart Meter Awareness Group~~P.P.A. Member

      • Max says:

        Dear Liz, you can’t refuse, you can only object or not give consent. To refuse is quite serious and that is why the Distributor’s keep on using the word. Refuse is a legal term and that is why they are using it.. If you refuse you have not complied and thus they will eventually get the smart meter in. They tried to use this word on me and I corrected them. I told them I do not consent. The word refuse has been used intentionally, it is in legalese and not plain English as most people would believe. You should not speak to them on the phone as you stated that they recorded the call and you refused. You also agreed with the smart meter installer that you have refused. Again this trick was used on me. I do not consent and I am under no obligation, that is what you say. Their is now law. I am sure the installers have been told to get people to agree that they have refused. ..

    • Tanya says:

      Kate,

      Maybe the reports about smart meters still needing to be manually read refer to those in SP Ausnet’s territory. SP are way behind schedule in installing smart meters (this is why they are the worst bullies of all the distributors). Apparently they have been installing smart meters without the communications cards just so they can appear to the government to be more on schedule. Then they will return at a later date to install the communications card. (So if you are an SP customer and have a smart meter, it may not be too late to lock up your meter.) Also, SP’s network is different from all the others in that they have to install towers to receive the data from smart meters. People call it wi-fi on steroids because of the huge amount of RF it produces. Whereas other power distributors are using a mesh network which passes data from one house to the next. Maybe SP does not yet have all its towers in place.

      The government has not finished their final enquiry into the safety of smart meters. At least not officially. Unofficially they probably have because Nicholas Kotsiras declared that he was sure they would find them to be safe – end of enquiry, save the money and spend it on a huge banquet for the pollies.

      I have measured the EMR coming off a cordless phone and it is horrendous. The base station is worse than the handset because it emits RF constantly, whereas a mobile phone emits RF intermittently. I urge you to get a corded phone because there probably isn’t any device in your home that is more dangerous to your health than your cordless phone (unless you stand in front of your operating microwave oven watching the carousel go around).

      • Eric says:

        If you get a corded phone, it would be safer if you do not get an electric phone ie. one that plugs into the power outlet as well as the phone socket

        Just get an old fashioned phone that plugs into the phone socket only.
        You avoid exposure to magnetic/electric fields.

        You can also get an inline answering machine that doesn’t require to be plugged in.

  127. Peter says:

    United energy refuse to reconnect Sofia unless she has a ‘smart meter’?
    What reason do they give?
    There is NO LAW WHICH SAYS SHE HAS TO HAVE one.
    There is NO LAW WHICH SAYS united energy HAS TO FIT ONE.
    The Essential Services Commission is bound by its charter to ‘protect the interests of Victorian consumers’.
    DEMAND IMMEDIATE ACTION FROM THE ESC!

  128. Peter says:

    Hi Guys

    Anyone got information/problems regarding ‘index reads’?

    • Max says:

      So we are be told constantly that according to The Electricity Distribution Act that we have to allow access for the installation of a smart meter. No so, the is what the Act says:
      3.3.2 Provided official identification is produced by the distributor’s representatives on request, a customer must provide to the distributor’s representatives at all times convenient and unhindered access.
      (a) to the distributor’s equipment for any purposes associated with the supply, metering or billing of electricity
      If the power lines in your area are overhead, your service main will be an overhead cable connected to the service point, which is usually mounted on a fascia board.
      This is their supply point and they always have access to this.

      As for the metering, the definition of a meter according to Essential Services Commission,Victoria, April 2011
      means a device complying with this Code which measures and records the production or consumption of electrical energy. It does not state that the meter supplies electricity. In regards to billing, the meter reader would have to have access to the meter to read it, so you don’t receive an estimate.

      The definition of a smart meter is:
      Smart meter means an interval meter designed to transmit data to a remote locality that meets the functionality requirements for advanced metering infrastructure set out in any relevant order made under section 46D of the Electricity Act. Therefore a smart meter is a communication device as it transmits data..

      There is no mandate, this is misleading as you can only get a mandate from the people of Victoria, this has not happened. There is no law either. The legalities are on the distributor they were given an order to install smart meters, the customer is not obligated to accept a communication device that transmits data. You have to have consent.

      Corporations are prohibited from engaging in unconscionable conduct in relation to the provision of goods or services by virtue of Sections 20, 21 and 22, of the Act. Unconscionable conduct deals with transactions between dominant and weaker parties; it therefore overlaps with duress and undue influence. Unconscionable conduct is prohibited both in equity and, more recently, by statute.

      Absolute Nuisance means illegally interfering with another person’s enjoyment and using their property. Doing an unlawful wrong to a person when the wrong can be corrected by the wrong doer.

    • Max says:

      This is from Jemena’s customer charter, it is on their website.
      What are your obligations as a distribution
      customer?
      To assist us in maintaining a safe distribution network, there are
      several customer responsibilities you need to be aware of when
      using our network.
      It is your responsibility to:

      Comply with the Electricity Distribution Code at all times.

      Use your best endeavour to remedy any non-compliance
      with the Electricity Distribution Code (this Charter is only a
      summary of the code).

      Ensure your electrical installation and any electrical
      equipment within your premises is maintained in a safe
      condition.

      Provide reasonable protection against tampering of our
      equipment (metering etc.) located at your premises.

      Ensure that your actions or equipment do not adversely affect
      the reliability and quality of supply to other customers.

      Keep all vegetation, structures and vehicles at your premises
      well clear of power lines.

      Allow safe and unhindered access to your premises for us
      to read or maintain the meter and if needed, to connect and
      disconnect your electricity supply

  129. Peter says:

    As people in Sofia’s position are being pursued and threatened with heavy fines for none compliance, and the fact that both the distributors and the Essential Services Commission refuse to answer ANY questions regarding THEIR none compliance, and seem to be immune from any investigation, then surely the VALUED CUSTOMER, and residents of Victoria are entitled to the same protection.

  130. Peter says:

    With regards to Sofias story, you might expect this sort of denial of human rights in the countries who have majority ownership of our electricity ESSENTIAL SERVICES, (China and Singapore)
    but not here in Australia.
    Is this a sign of what is to come here as more and more of our public assets are sold off to foreign corporations?
    We see our famous federal treasurer now; ‘making offers the other states can’t refuse, to sell off everything’. Well Joe, tell the people of Australia what happens when there is nothing left to sell and we have foreign corporations ruling over every Australian the way the people of Victoria are being ruled right now.
    United energy is 34% owned by Jemena. Jemena is owned by SPIAA; a holding company, ultimately owned by the Singapore government.
    I have just looked this up in the last few minutes. Just follow the links!

    http://jemena.com.au/what-we-do/assets/united-energy/

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/companies/spiaas-407m-writedown-signals-caution-ahead-of-deals/story-fn91v9q3-1226726486895

    SCAREY OR WHAT????????

  131. B.Dover says:

    I recently had a phone conversation with SP AusNet who mentioned if I refuse to have a smart meter installed I may be charged additional fees. Yet they couldn’t tell me what the fees are for or how much so I refused the install. I’ve also heard people having their power cut off plus other intimidating scenarios. refer “Sofia’s Story – Punitive power and the smart meter tyranny”
    I now received a letter from SP AusNet that they will be requiring access to my property to replace my electricity meter next Wednesday 9th. (they mention “my electricity meter” yet they own it)

    I believe there is no Government legislation that smart meters are compulsory to be installed. Yet the power companies use these threats of “additional fees” and “power cut off” plus additional tactics to have their meters installed. If I refuse to have a smart meter installed can they legally…
    ~ Charge me additional fees?
    ~ Disconnect my power because I possibly refuse them access where they could say my “analogue meter could be faulty?”
    If this happens, how do I fight it? How do I have my electricity reconnected without agreeing to a smart meter? How do I stop them possibly charging additional fees?
    Yes I’ve been told they can’t “legally” disconnect my power, but how do you tell the power companies …..” hey you can’t legally disconnect my power…please reconnect it” Where do I get legal documentation as evidence that they can’t disconnect my power?
    If there is a legal document that they cannot disconnect my power or charge additional fees then I’ll keep fighting and keep my meter locked.

    As a home owner supporting a young family who also works from home feel I have no option but to have their meter installed. I can’t work or live at home without electricity. It’s amazing how electricity is a daily requirement.

    • Ted says:

      B.Dover I Had The Same Thing With SP See My Response Below I Will Not Have A Smart Meter With Out a Court Order Regards Ted

      • Peter says:

        Ted and B, Make sure your meter boxes are locked and you signs are in place, photograph the locked boxes and your signage. If this is not done, you come home to find a surveillance and control devise has been fitted, with of without your permission!

      • B.Dover says:

        Thanks Ted. So what would you do if they cut your power off?

        • S. Douglas says:

          B. Dover, I too have just received a letter from SP AusNet regarding mandatory installation at my property on Monday 7th April. When I phoned SP AusNet to say that this would not be happening, the call centre girl became quite verbally aggressive with me saying that they would cut my power off if I don’t allow clear and free access to my meter box (which is locked and has been so for some years now and also has signage attached as suggested by this website. I have sent all the relevant letters to our MP’s, SP Ausnet CEO – to absolutely no avail). She also said that when my power is cut, if I want it re-installed there would be a huge cost and I would also be fined for non-compliance/acceptance of this death meter. She also went on to state that there are no health concerns founded for these devices. I am a highly qualified health professional and very much disputed what she was clearly just reading from a computer screen. She then told me in a very aggressive manner ‘are you an electrician?’
          I am quite worried that they will follow through with their threat to cut off my power and am not sure what else to do, given particularly as they are supposed to be coming out on Monday and today is Thursday. Any advice would be appreciated.

        • Ted says:

          B.Dover ( A Big If ) My Power Is Cut Off The Only Thing I Could Do Is Take This To Court And The Media.
          I Really Can’t See Them Having Any Powers Or Rights To Cutting My Power Off.
          My Meter Box And Gates Are Locked At All Times.
          I Work For Myself. My Meter Is Due For A Meter Read Today So I Stay Home For This So They Can Read It And They Can’t Say I Don’t Let Them Have Access To The Meter.

    • Anonymous says:

      They want you to think you have no option but to have the meter installed. That’s their tactic. Don’t be sucked into it. Stay firm. Their tactic is getting to people, and for each person who gives in and falls to their lies it weakens the overall campaign we are all fighting for against these evil power distributors. Let’s hope the new People Power political party can bring lots more attention to this issue – hold on, let’s see what some formal political action can do? In the meantime, see the ‘legal advice’ found on this site that cites laws and your rights…? All the best. We’re all in this together!

    • Tanya says:

      I (and SSMA) have heard of only two people having their electricity disconnected over a smart meter issue and it wasn’t merely because they refused a smart meter. There were other issues involved.

      These distributors and installers want you to think that you are about to be disconnected. Usually their threat to disconnect, when done in writing, is worded as ‘MAY disconnect’ not ‘WILL disconnect’. When given verbally, it is sometimes ‘WILL disconnect’ because you are not recording it and so have no proof.

      Nicholas Kotsiras said that it would be inhumane to disconnect people and thought charging us a manual meter reading fee is a better way to go. Why did he say this if we face imminent disconnection? People have been receiving these threats for over 12 months and still their analogue meter remains on their property. Why aren’t the distributors racing around to the homes and carrying out their threats? And why has United Energy written to refusers acknowledging their stance, rather than writing to them stating that their power is about to be disconnected?

      Please stop panicking and caving into these lying bullies. And if you are an SP Ausnet customer, then bear in mind that they are the biggest bullies of all the distributors.

    • Max says:

      You can’t refuse a smart meter. You don’t give consent to the installation of a smart meter. You can never refuse. Refuse is a legal word and they know it as well. If they state you have refused, you simply correct them,. with I have not refused, i have not consented..Don’t talk to them on the phone. This is not a good idea.

  132. geoffrey says:

    how about an update on the legal class action please.

  133. Tanya says:

    Recently I was using my sewing machine which I’ve had for over 30 years. I stopped depressing the foot controller (which makes the machine needle go up and down) and shortly after the machine started sewing all by itself. I had to pull the plug from the socket to stop it. I’ve never seen this happen before. What if I had left the sewing machine plugged in while I went shopping?

    We are hearing about smart meters interfering with garage door controllers, keyless ignition systems in cars, TVs, and numerous other appliances. My concern is that people will leave appliances plugged in at the wall, the smart meter will cause the appliance to turn on, and a fire will ensue. Is this what is behind some of the many house fires we are hearing about?

    Please think about what appliances you have on standby.

  134. Anonymous says:

    Is anyone else getting DAILY phone calls (both real people and recorded messages) asking for appointment time for upcoming installation of electricity meter?
    I have written all the appropriate letters, and yet I am continuously being bullied on a daily basis. It is really impacting on my life.

    • Graham says:

      Anonymous, your Distribution Company want it to impact upon your life. They actually want you to become sick and worn down so that you will cave in to them. Lock up your meter box big time. Send them the anti harassment notice that you can find on this website which mentions the $1.1 million fine. Raise a case with the Ombudsman against your Distributor. They will refuse to do anything for you but you can push them because it is their job and if the Ombudman says something to you that is out of line with being an independant adjudicator you can tell them that they too will be reported. Record your calls for evidence against them that divulges their slackness or that they are well and truly in bed with the five Distribution Companies. Your Distribution Company will soon commence the next phase of their campaign against you as Jemena have done in trying to lure their customers into the trap of contractual obligation to pay presently fictitious fees if and when they may choose to extort them.

      • Anonymous says:

        Hi Graham, Yes done all of that but not Ombudsman. Which Ombudsman would one contact please? It most certainly is wearing us down and also coupled with the fact that high altitude aerosol spraying (aeroplanes spraying lines at high altitude which expand over days to cover whole sky and causing obscured air quality: which we are all breathing & ingesting !) is taking place daily producing chemical tainted air — that is just adding to our feelings of hopelessness against these government-assisted evils and thus our ability to cope generally. It seems Smart Meters & the ‘geoengineering’ go hand in hand when one reads further.
        ( http://www.look-up.org.uk/what-is-geo-engineering/ for anyone who doesn’t know what I’m talking about…)
        The legal action I thought was going to be the beginning of the end of Smart Meters but seems like that has fizzled…. what hope? What hope?
        Anonymously yours (through fear & harrassment…)

    • Andy ward says:

      Yep, I just got an automated one from s.p ausnet, first one ever, though 13/3/14
      Cheers
      Andy Ward

    • Jasmine says:

      Keep records of every call, and the time and date. Keep a book near your phone so you can write everything down as it happens. It is illegal to harass people.

    • Max says:

      Dear Anonymous, please keep records of everything and go to your doctor and get them to write everything down. Make sure everything is clearly documented, time and dates. If worse comes to worse change your number and don’t give it out. You are entitled to feel safe and secure in your own home. You are entitled to not be harassed .You might need to send an even stronger worded letter in the near future to stop the harassment

    • Ted says:

      Ok First of all SpAusNet run the net work in my area
      but my account is with Origin. Sp This Week Have sent text messages
      to my wifes phone about the smart meter install. First of all, how the
      hell did they get my wife’s mobile number? We have never given it to
      them. They gave up on me. I just told them to piss off and leave me
      alone and hang up on them. I’m sick of being nice and saying no thank
      you. I don’t want one. They just won’t listen and take no notice of the
      signs I’ve put up from this site.
      Now I rang them today (SpAusNet) to once again tell them I don’t want
      a smart meter. I spoke to a girl who tried the mandate spiel which I replied,
      yes i know it’s on you to try to con me to best endeavors. I told her I’m sick
      of people harassing me about a smart meter every 3 months or so.
      She told me it is law to allow them access to service the meter which we did
      last month when they changed the power line from the road to the power pole on the
      property and check the meter. She then went on to tell me that it was
      the law that we had to have a smart meter. When I went to say that it’s
      not the law, she kept talking over me.
      She told me I would end up having a smart meter installed. I told her only
      if you (Sp) have a court order and the police, other wise PISS OFF and leave me alone
      and hung up. I’m so over it and it stressed the hell out of me for hours.

      • Joan says:

        I have got a van parked outside my house today being Saturday the 29th of March 2014 and this guy just keeps sitting there waiting for movement in the house. I’ve got a padlock on my gates and a sign stating beware of the dog, the meter box is able to be opened but I have got a locked box surrounding the meter. Cause when the house was being built neighbouring builders were pinching the power and so TXU installed a locked box with a window around the meter so it couldn’t be tampered with . This has been on for some thirteen years the key to the extra large lock is long gone and the box is so thick you wouldn’t be able to cut it open. I don’t want a smart meterr but in order to install one they would need to yank out the entire meter box causing a lot of damage.

        Are they allowed to cause damage to your house and meter box in order to change it or can they be charged with breaking and entering and wilful damage?

        This guys been out the front now for two hours isn’t this stalking or harassment?

        • Max says:

          Dear Joan, they can be charged that is why they have not broken your box. Also if they sit outside your place again call the police and tell them that their is someone suspicious outside your place and you are scared. They will come. Don’t tell them that you think they are smart meter installers, let the police find out themselves.

  135. Pete says:

    Hi All,

    Just got an interesting letter from Jemena, it has the same old rhetoric, but this time advises that those of us who have not changed our meter to a smart meter will be charged additional fees.
    However what makes my blood boil is that now they’ve gotten a little smarter and added in the following line at the bottom of the letter:

    “If we do not hear from you within ten days of this letter we will consider that you have declined our offer to replace the old meter with a smart meter, by reason of you refusing Jemena access to the meter at your property”.

    In fact its the last part of the last sentence that makes me angry because they are using this excuse to use against us as they refer to the electrical providers’ code. Then they’ll use that as an excuse to cut off power and say that we have breached contract. Crazy thing is, I never signed such contract, neither did anyone else and the mere fact that they are using such dirty tricks to FORCE us to install a death meter is criminal. I’ve written to them many times, using examples of letters from this forum, it has helped keep them away. I’ve even officially asked them to provide me a written letter that they guarantee that the meter will not negatively affect my health but obviously they have declined to provide this. They’ve never once answered my letters with any information, other than just pure BS rhetoric.
    My meter is directly behind the wall where my bed head is located, imagine what that’ll do to my health. No thanks, I’ll fight tooth and nail before they force me to install such sneaky and deadly contraption.

    Anyone care to share a reply letter to this specific claim? I want to shove it in their proverbial together with a pineapple before the 10 days are up. Any help would be much appreciated and I’m sure it would help others because if those of you have not had a smart meter installed, you can expect such a letter very soon.

    Cheers
    Pete

    • Jasmine says:

      Dear Pete, my mother received a letter from Jemena today also. I don’t know what it says as I have to have a look at it, but I was going to send it back and not bother reading it anyway. Maybe we should all get our letters and take them down to their office and hand them in. You haven’t refused them access to the meter, they are only allowed to read the meter and maintain it. You have refused to let them install a smart meter. I am going to call one of my friends and ask him what he thinks and I will let you know as I will also be getting a letter.

      • Pete says:

        Hi Jasmine, yes I agree with you and I’ve been sending them letters all of last year. I’ve never refused them access to read the meter, even though they played a very dirty trick on me last year which cost me a packet, but I paid the bill in full. However I recall mid year, they hammered me with phone calls and I spoke to one person, which eventually hung up the phone in my face and I reported her… fat lot of good that did, but at least she tasted a little bit of pineapple… however all of the Jemena reps seem to have one thing in common and they all use this same excuse and that is, they say something to the effect that if we don’t allow them access to change the meter, they may (not the will, but they may) terminate supply because somewhere in the code, it is written that if a homeowner refuses to allow a jemena rep to “perform maintenance” or similar, that is deemed as breach of contract. I know if it went to court, they’d have to prove that swapping the meter was a part of “maintenance” which it is NOT but anyway…

        I know it is a scare tactic, especially when the word “MAY” is involved, even the illegal private car parks use this tactic which makes me laugh… but because power is such an important part of our lives, if they ever shut my power off, they’d have a huge legal battle on their hands where I would also be making an application for costs and compensation as I work from home. However this is classified as harassment and there are supposed to be codes of conduct, but they are not being followed and something needs to be done about this now. This is a far cry from “best effort”, its more like “intimidate to the best of your ability”, they got no chance of that with me, but what about the elderly people who can’t defend themselves from these criminals???

        I also feel that people somehow think that because we are now in 2014, the criminals are not going to pursue us anymore with changing of the smart meters, but that couldn’t be further from the truth. They are continuing their harassment and intimidation tactics.

        So any ideas on what to send back would be grateful, otherwise I’m going to have to write the same rhetoric as they do, but this time I’ll send a copy to the minister’s office with the very real threat of legal action if they continue this.

        P.S. Does anyone know about the class action that was supposed to be organised? What happened with that? Everything has gone all quiet… 😦

        Cheers
        Pete

      • Marin says:

        My local pizza shop just had a smart meter installed. When I popped past not long ago, he said that the installer told him $500 would be charged per meter read to the people who are still hanging onto analog meters, after the March 2015 deadline. Just wanted to pass this on, take it with a grain of salt or not…

        • Tanya says:

          I have heard several times of these exorbitant fees to do manual meter reads from March 2015. They’d better be rumour only because I cannot see how they can justify such a ridiculously high fee. 10 years ago I was told it would cost about $25 for a manual meter read. And I heard recently that other distributors are charging less than that now. It is necessary for only one meter read to be done per year and the others can be estimates. So how does one annual meter read times less than $50 suddenly come to $500?

        • Jasmine says:

          To Marin,
          A Jemena installer told my neighbour last year that anyone that does not have a smart meter installed by the end of the year would get a fine. This man also sat on her toilet for so long that my neighbour thought he had fallen in. Maybe something clouded his mind in the toilet and he got a bit mixed up as he was wrong and should stick to installing radiation devices. The distributor’s have contracts and they would have penalties as well. There penalty would be a lot worse than ours. I think everyone needs to remember that the Government works for us and not the other way around. WE ARE NOT THERE SLAVES OR SERVANTS.

        • Jasmine says:

          Dear Marin,
          Even if this rumor were true, I highly doubt that a smart meter installer would be privy to this information. That is unless this person was the Energy Minister. Would this smart meter installer be willing to put this in an affidavit and have it witnessed under his personal full commercial liability? If this person is not willing to take personal responsibility and liability, then they need to keep there comments to themselves and stick to installing there radiation meters.

    • Jasmine says:

      Dear Pete,
      What is the date on your letter because my mum’s letter has the 27th of February, yet it only arrived today.

      • Anonymous says:

        That has been another one of Jemena’s tricks to send backdated letters. Just the same as they have done with their notices of installation. I also know of a letter received same day as your mum ie 05 March 2014 but dated 27Feb2014.

        Note their wording “If we do not hear from you within 10 days of this letter………”

        Does that mean 10 days “of this letter” being received ? Or
        Does that mean 10 days “of this letter” being the date on the letter ?
        If that is the case, how can that be reasonable if the letter was already backdated at the time of it’s posting ?

        Their whole letter is completely ambiguous and lacks clarity. It has been either put together by complete morons (of which there are many in Jemena) or by the cunning sewer rats high up in the organisation as some sort of legal entrapment for the customers.

        The whole premise of this letter is wrong.

        And remember, they are still just a foreign company portraying themselves with fictitious authority. The whole premise of this letter is flawed.

        They refer to the replacement of the old meter with a smart meter as being “their offer”…..as if this is some sort of new offer. I thought that they had been continually bullying, badgering, harassing and intimidating us (Crimes Act 1958 Max 10 Years Imprisonment applicable) for the last three years to install their smart meter and they now talk about this as an “offer” ?
        And as far as considering us as having “declined their offer” by not responding, well……as if they didn’t know that they have on numerous occassions already been told “No Way” that a smart meter is ever going to be installed.
        What makes it different on this occasion ?
        Is their so called “offer” to replace the old meter, more a message that says “if you fail to respond we will take it as you having agreed that you will pay us whatever fee(s) we choose to charge you regardless of the fact that such fees are presently non existant” ?
        Is that the real “offer” so called ? It’s quite reasonable to express an intent on our part to not agree to pay fees that are presently non existant and that such non agreement has no implications for what we would choose to do IF and when such fees may be imposed.
        Well that is not an offer but more an ultimatum or a threat.
        Is their so called “offer” more a trap which by we in not replying, they can take it as being
        “our confession” that we have “refused them access” in such a way that they can use to say we have admitted to violating the code and hence try to justify threats to cut off our power should we not pay fees or even continue to refuse future installation “offers” of a smart meter ?
        Well, they know and we know that denying access has never been the issue. We have never denied access for legitimate requirements. We are just disallowing them to bring onto our premises a carcinogenic and invasive device and may they burn in hell for attempting to do that.
        And I also ask whether Jemena themselves will cease from all attempts to install new smart meters henceforth after the ten days have lapsed seeing that they are saying that we have “declined their offer” and hence you would think their offer is no longer valid.
        Sounds like a totally bogus offer and a totally bogus letter to me from totally bogus persons masquerading themselves in nothing other than fictitious authority and this will become clear if in two weeks time there is any further harassement, bullying and intimidation of customers still taking place to attempt to force them to take a smart meter against their will.

        And for those who haven’t seen it, here is the letter………………..starting off with four paragraphs of Jemena’s usual BS
        (and now no longer addressed to a generic addressee such as to “the homeowner” or to “the occupier” but to an actual individual addressee name)

        ————————————————————————————————————
        Important Electricity Information – Smart Meter Installation
        Jemena Electricity Networks (Vic) Ltd (Jemena) is the electricity distributor that delivers electricity to your property. We own and operate the electricity network (poles, wires, and meters) that supplies 320,000 properties across Melbourne’s north-western suburbs.
        The Victorian Government mandated the rollout of smart meters for all residential and small business electricity customers, and it is the Government’s policy that smart meters are now the standard meter in Victoria.
        With more than 2.5 million smart meters already installed across the state, the rollout is near completion. To date, Jemena has installed smart meters to more than 90 per cent of properties in its distribution area.
        Smart meters will enable distributors and retailers to offer you a range of new services and products. With a smart meter, you will be able to better understand your electricity usage through the use of in-home displays and web portals, which will enable you to take more control of your electricity usage and consider options such as flexible tariffs that may save you money.
        We have been in contact with you previously about installing a new smart meter at the above mentioned property. As of the date of this letter, we have been unable to arrange the necessary access with you to carry out the required works.
        The Victorian Government has confirmed that from March 2015, electricity distributors will be entitled to recover the costs of maintaining a separate metering service from those customers that continue to refuse a smart meter. To avoid this additional charge, we request you contact us as soon as possible to make an appointment to install your smart meter.
        To book an appointment please contact Jemena Customer Relations: 1800 447 998 or smartmeters@jemena.com.au
        If your smart meter has already been installed, thank you for your assistance and please ignore this notification letter.
        If we do not hear from you within ten days of this letter we will consider that you have declined our offer to replace the old meter with a smart meter, by reason of you refusing Jemena access to the meter at your property.
        If you would like to know more about smart meters, please visit the Victorian Government website at http://www.smartmeters.vic.gov.au or call 136 186.

        Thank you for your co-operation.
        Yours sincerely,
        **** *****
        Stakeholder Relations Manager Jemena Electricity Networks
        smartmeters@iemena.corn.au
        If you need a translator, call 13 14 50

        • Pete says:

          Anonymous we all agree with you, however the problem is, we are all making our legitimate arguments, but they are using only one argument now (after all of their other previous attempts have been buried under the ground) and that is that they say that if we refuse them entry to install the meter, they can cut our power because we have gone against the agreement they’ve “Apparently” made with us ! There is no other argument they are trying because everything else they’ve tried, hasn’t worked.

          Also, with regards to the backdating… yes I’m pretty sure we all agree with you on this one too. Actually because their letters were not sent via registered post, (you need to sign for that), there is no evidence/proof if this is taken to court, the judge (or registrar) will just laugh it off. But 2 people can play at that game !

          SO, after pondering on this for a few days I believe I have found the solution. A letter must be sent back to them explaining these following pertinent points:

          1- Their so called “Maintenance” is not required and their excuse that they need to enter the property to change the meter (under the umbrella of maintenance) is a farce and thus it needs to be explained to them that we do not refuse them to enter property to perform “Maintenance” on the equipment. HOWEVER (a) There is nothing wrong with my existing analogue meter, (b) My existing analogue meter is not faulty, does not require any maintenance as it is working perfectly and (c) I do not give them permission to CHANGE the electricity meter, but I do give them permission to perform “Maintenance”.
          IMPORTANT: NOTE THAT MAINTENANCE IS NOT CHANGING OVER EQUIPMENT, MAINTENANCE MEANS TO MAINTAIN EQUIPMENT, NOT CHANGE IT.
          Ie. Meaning of Maintenance from the Oxford dictionary: “the process of preserving a condition or situation or the state of being preserved”.
          Note the key words here are “Preserving a condition”.

          2- So many times have Jemena representatives (on the phone) told me that part of the maintenance is to CHANGE the existing meter to the new carcinogenic smart meters. So what needs to be in the letter is wording to the effect that we give them permission to perform maintenance, BUT we do not give them to install a smart meter which has nothing to do with “Maintenance” and we are fearful of these carcinogenic producing devices, we fear for our health (which is what this is really about) and we do not give consent.

          If these above 2 points are put into a very clear and concise letter (which I will post here shortly), if they shut the power off, I shall take them to court, I’ll contact a couple of journos in Today Tonight AND A Current Affair and I’ll produce all of the paperwork. If this happens, I’m pretty sure all of you involved will be eager to appear on these programs too. I know this sounds like talking tough, but when you make an application to the magistrates’ or another court, against Jemena and sue them for losses and damages, together with a whole stack of other people, I’m pretty sure we can get the exposure we need and I’m sure lots of people would be behind me on this. I still haven’t heard from anyone relating to the class action, but if you won’t do it mr. stopsmartmeters, I will.

          Its unfortunate that the admin of this website seems to have gone quiet and most other people prefer to talk about what other countries are doing than tackle the task at hand. No point in saying yeah look at what they are doing overseas because quite frankly, here in Australia, no one gives a hoot. Its only us but there are plenty of us, enough to give a huge headache to Mr. Jemena. So Mr. Jemena, your so called smart arse 2 bit legal personnel aren’t so smart after all, expect a letter from me shortly… You won’t be able to wiggle out of this one.

        • Jasmine says:

          The have to prove that we have refused access to the meter. They need to clarify exactly what they mean, by reason of you refusing access to the meter at your property. The only part they have right is it is our property and not there’s. Was the alleged refusal given verbally or was it in writing? Can they provide the date and time this alleged refusal took place? Is it possible that the word refused was never used? Is it possible that whoever has made these allegations, was standing near a smart meter at the time and therefore developed brain fog? Or maybe there ears were ringing and they just did not hear properly. The letter is not written in plain English, but in Legalese. The definition of legalese is:”The specialized vocabulary of the legal profession, especially when considered to be complex or abstruse.” There are two words in this letter that you have to pay attention to, that is offer and refusing.
          If they have nearly completed there roll out as they claim, why harass people? Which Victorian Government are they referring to? Are they referring to the COMMONWEALTH
          OF AUSTRALIA, being. “The people unite in one indissoluble Commonwealth” under the Act to Constitute the Commonwealth of Australia 1900 (UK).
          or
          For the COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA, being a company registered with the Securities Exchange Commission in Washington DC, USA, CIK# 0000805157.
          Can they provide first hand knowledge that the installation of a Smart Meter is mandatory to a consumer? Finally they need to provide facts and not just opinion. They need to also adhere to there codes.

      • Pete says:

        Hi Jasmine,
        Yes mine is also back dated 1 week! They are fools though, because there is no proof that the letter has arrived at my house at a certain date, they should have sent the letter registered post, which they did NOT. See my response below to Anonymous, I’ll post the reply letter here, you can copy it and send it off, just like anyone else that reads this can do. Am I worried that they’ll know who I am? Not at all. I have a nice big juicy pineapple here waiting to be inserted into their proverbial.

        This is their last attempt to try to get us, but in the end, even if they threaten us to cut the power, they still have to follow protocol and a mediator has to be appointed FIRST, BEFORE they cut any power. If they cut power without reason, they’ll be in a lot of trouble and I’ll make sure it gets media attention through my contacts. The media love this kind of stuff, it just happens to be that it first must happen, rather than just talk, before they get involved, but I’m prepared for it, both mentally and legally as I’ve sent them many letters, I’ve got all of them and I hope you have got all copies of yours as well.

        I also forgot to add point 3 in the reply to Anonymous and that is that we need to request from Jemena, a signed document with Jemena letterhead, that they GUARANTEE that there will be no such adverse effects to our health if the smart meter is installed. I know they won’t give that because I’ve tried it about 3 times already. And what Anonymous says about the crimes act 1958 is also true, they can get 10 years if we appoint the right legal persons to follow this through.

        Might I add, in terms of being charged $500, I’m not sure who wrote that, but to me, anyone who would write such a comment, seems to be to be an employee of Jemena. Why would someone write such comment? Think about this, read the comment carefully… to me it is sus. Pay $500 for a meter read? No problems, firstly it goes against the code. Secondly, I’ll take it to Maurice and Blackburn Lawyers (they have much experience with this… ie. the class action against the banks) and also to the office of fair trading. When a business charges you a fee for something, there are certain guidelines that they must follow. Its not as easy as just saying “oh I’ll issue you now with a $500 meter read invoice”, Jemena will have to show exactly how this was calculated. With the number of people that do not have a smart meter, realistically and legally it would be like pushing poop up a steep hill and thinking there will be no marks left on the ground… pipe dreams. Hence, read that comment from Marin, I can smell a rat. After all, scare tactics are Jemenas forte’. they are the scum of the earth. Shame on them for trying to force people and intimidating people to change over to carcinogenic devices that will ultimately kill us all.

    • Jasmine says:

      Dear Pete,
      There has been some good advice posted on this forum, in regards to the letter, you and others have received. Firstly you have not refused access to your meter, you have not given consent to be part of an experiment. You have not given consent for a wireless smart meter to be installed. You have not given consent to a surveillance device to be installed on your private property. They need consent and they know it as well. The letter they sent was sent through regular mail, thus they can’t prove that you even got the letter. They would have to prove that you and others actually received this letter. The letter would also have to be written in PLAIN ENGLISH and it is not, this is a requirement that Jemena must adhere to. They have to follow the rules, whether they like it or not.If they don’t follow the rules, then they need to be reprimanded.
      Also Pete, if anyone says you have refused, you need to state very clearly that you have not refused, that you do not give consent and you are not obligated to accept a smart meter. Jemena has a license to supply electricity and that is all, they do not have the authority to do much else.
      You need to inform Jemena that they are harassing you and they need to stop. If you have already informed Jemena to stop harassing you then they are in danger of breaking the law. They have to abide by the law. They have to abide by there codes as well. If you have sent legal notices in, point this out and inform them that this is there first warning to stop harassing you. Also Jemena are to cease any contact with you, through the phone, in person or by mail and if they don’t you may use this as evidence of harassment.They are to have no contact with you, in regards to smart meter installation. You have said no and not given consent and they need to stop.

    • Bearded Baboon Loather says:

      Pete, please look
      http://inalienablerights.wordpress.com/return-to-sender/
      Write in and reject the offer, deny their “refusal” (this term is a legal trap) accusation, admit your non consent rather and state your refusal to pay fees.
      You know what to do when the next offer comes round.
      Hint: http://inalienablerights.wordpress.com/return-to-sender/
      Who knows maybe there will be several rounds of “offers” to come.
      Beware the trap of non response (and I think legally you have 14 days from the date you actually receive the letter or ten working days)
      You may think not getting a smart meter is good. However what you are NOT TOLD in this sneaky letter that their lawyers have crafted as a lure against you is that by refusing their “offer” (another legal term that obliges you to contract), you then ACCEPT THEIR TERMS AND CONDITIONS ie. that you agree to pay their proposed but presently fictitious charges which have no legislative backup and that you acknowledge “refusal” (another legal term that has implications for you) to provide access to the meter which we know is not the case. You just don’t consent to carcinogenic AMI which you are not obligated to allow them to install)

      It seems that failure to reply leads you into a defacto optout situation as I ASSUME (can’t say for certain) that you may get taken off the installation list (ala UE). Will those remaining on the installation list then continue to be badgered, bullied and harassed to accept installation ? That’s the $60K question. And for those already having carcinogens transmitted through their bodies, you don’t get the “offer” where default means extortion.

      DEFAULT ON THE OFFER AGREE TO EXTORTION.

      Mr Paul Adams, I wait for the day where I see you ************************************ for the extreme duress hardships that you have caused so many innocent people.

  136. David says:

    Here is an interesting Facebook page, about the Privatisation of our power networks, and how it’s been nothing but a failure, costing consumers more and more –

    https://www.facebook.com/powerprivatisation

  137. David says:

    Here’s an eyeopening (and sad) documentary, just released by the Electrical Trades Union –
    featuring Jeff Kennett’s privatisation of Victoria’s power infrastructure……….. and the irreparable damage it’s done to our state.

    • Gwen says:

      Thankyou David for this post. Yes, very very sad documentary of the effects of a careless man on the peoples lives he was entrusted to care for.

  138. geoffrey says:

    send all your complaints to these 2 wolves in sheeps cloths, epa chairman cheryl batagol and epa ceo john merritt, http://www.epa.vic.gov.au/about-us/who-we-are/chairman-and-ceo ask these 2 grossly overpayed public servents why they keep their heads burried in the sand in reguards to the health and safety of “smart” meters, could it be they care more for the perks and profits of their position that the public health they porport to guard?? politicians come and go but these “public servants” linger on and when they do go its inevatable right into the embrace of big business.

  139. geoffrey says:

    s.m.a.r.t. = slow murder arson radiation test

  140. Citizen for Democracy says:

    Watch this video:
    http://www.takebackyourpower.net/news/2014/02/28/utilities-desperate-to-quash-pushback-shut-off-leaders-electricity/
    How low can power companies stoop?!
    Witness their desperate attempt at quashing dissent in the US by personally attacking and causing harm to Stop Smart Meters US director Joshua Hart.
    Watch them trying to intimidate his wife, as she makes her ‘victim impact statement’ in a public hall.
    Their strategy, though, is not smart at all – by creating a martyr for the cause, they are only going to create more awareness, more dissent, more rebellion, more fight back.
    It’s coming to the point were no self-respecting human being will be able to accept a smart meter – without hanging their head in shame. The pendulum is already swinging the other way.
    Go Joshua – you are a true leader!

  141. Sick Of Their Lies says:

    Disconnected!
    StopSmartMeters.org Director Josh Hart Disconnected by Utility for Refusing to Pay Opt-Out Extortion Fees

    http://stopsmartmeters.org/2014/02/19/disconnected/

  142. Citizen for Democracy says:

    This is a WAKE-UP call for all SOUTH AUSTRALIANS!
    Your elections are just a few weeks away, on the 15th March. Both major parties there intend to push through with a smart meter roll-out for your state. Although it won’t be mandatory, the power companies will be instructed to try very hard to install as many smart meters as possible. Even if you were to succeed in keeping your home smart meter free, you would still be irradiated from all the neighbouring smart meters.
    Please do not allow your beautiful state to go down the same destructive path as Victoria!
    This is your one and only chance to speak up on this issue.
    Email the Premier Jay Weatherill at;
    cheltenham@parlaiment.sa.gov.au
    Email the opposition leader Steven Marshall at:
    norwood@parliament.sa.gov.au
    Express your concerns and ask them their intentions regarding wireless smart meters.
    MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT!
    Good luck!

  143. Edward says:

    An Order in Council is a mechanism to SNEAK something in that can not be made law. It is for the very reason that John Brumby was unable to get smart meters passed as law that we have the “Order in Council” which is NOT LAW.

  144. Harlan Taylor says:

    It has been said on this website that if you do not want a smart meter you must lock your meter box. Let me correct that. If you do not want a smart meter you must lock your meter box and KEEP IT LOCKED. No point locking your meter box if you are going to just reopen it when the power company makes some sort of threat against you.

    No point locking your meter box only to reopen it when you are rung up and spun a story that it will cost you more for the installers to come back next time. It costs nothing for installers to come out.
    No point locking your meter box only to reopen it again when you are spun a story that you are going to pay some sort of fee later on even though such fee doesn’t even exist at this time.
    No point locking your meter box only to reopen it because you have been told some NONSENSE that it is supposedly inevitable that “we’ll all have to get one eventually”.

    When you start to have these utterances of threatening intonation fired at you (and you will), please pause and consider the baselessness of such utterances. Stop and consider and you are likely to see how utterly ridiculousness any such threatening utterance they make actually is and THEN REALISE exactly what it is that they are trying to achieve by making such baseless yet threatening utterances to you.

    When you lock your meter box you must be committed to keeping it locked come hell or high water because I guarantee they will pester you regularly and they will try and get inside your head in such a way where YOU yourself reopen the box for them.

    DO NOT REOPEN THE BOX for them because of how they may make you to feel by some blurb that comes out of their corrupt mouths. That is the very thing they are playing upon and it has worked for them with even the most intelligent of people having been seduced and sucked in by their words and who now somehow find themselves in the very predicament of having a source of carcinogenic microwave radiation transmitting from the very side of their own house. This is the very predicament that they sought to avoid in the first place. Such seduction is the way of the very devil himself. You must stand your ground folks and do not at this stage of the game attempt to engage with those who would contact you and who would portray themselves with fictitious authority.

    • Paul & Di McMahon says:

      @Harlan. Exactly what i intend to do and regardless of their harassment which is now on a daily basis via mobile calls and text messages we will never consent or allow them to install this device on our home…..ever. I’m good and ready for whatever they have planned and will make sure they understand that we know our rights and will never back down. Let them turn our power off…..that in itself is illegal being an essential service….will find a way around that too. Am not intimidated in the least by these parasites and am fully prepared to go down any legal avenue we need to to get them off our back.

  145. Peter says:

    Still stuck with a surveillance and control device? Want to get rid of it?
    Write to your distributor and tell them that you no longer accept THEIR CHOICE (or that of the Victorian government) of these devices.
    You do not accept their claims that there are no health issues with them.
    You do not accept their claims they do not cause electrical fires.
    You deny them the right to invade the privacy of your home.
    You deny them the right to control your house hold appliances, now or in the future.
    You DEMAND that in accordance with Electricity Customer Metering Code 6.1(b) the surveillance and control device be replaced; with a none remotely read, none interval meter.
    Make it very clear, that if they fail to comply with this demand within, say, 30 working days, (Electricity Distribution Code 11.2.1) then you, their VALUED CUSTOMER, reserve the right to employ a licenced electrician, at your own cost and without breaching Electricity Distribution Code 3.3.1, (they have failed to comply with your demand) to replace the device with an analogue accumulation meter, until such time that they, the distributors install a type of meter acceptable to you, THEIR VALUED customer.
    They will almost certainly bluster and jump up and down about surveillance and control devices being ‘mandated’, ‘compulsory’, ‘you cannot refuse them’ etc. These are misleading statements, if not downright lies! DO AS THEY DO, ignore their reply, and simply respond with your original letter! (You must continue to respond)
    THERE ARE NO LAWS FORCING THE DISTRIBUTORS TO INSTALL THESE DEVISES!
    THERE ARE NO LAWS FORCING CUSTOMERS TO ACCEPT THEM!
    The distributors have NO LEGAL right to refuse your demand!
    I am sure there are better legal brains than mine on this site, which can put together a forceful document based on these facts.
    Until we become as aggressive as our tormentors, we will achieve little; we MUST be aggressive, now!
    As a matter of interest, I was aggressive from the word go, back in 2010 and still have my analogue meter, though I am the only one in my street!
    It is never too late to fight back! Delay will only make it harder.

    • Peter says:

      I forgot to add to the above post, if they refuse to comply with your demand, they are discriminating against you, as previous refusals have been accepted!!!!!!!!

    • geoffrey says:

      we have to start to remove these evil things from all our streets, i will not have 1 installed but the effects of all the others installed on the street are unbearable and getting worse every day, how much more will it take???

  146. Harold James says:

    Ever wondered why Neil Mitchell has not done more to expose the terror that is being inflicted upon many thousands of Victorians by this smart meter rollout, or the poisoning of Victorian citizens with the forced 24/7 cumulative exposure to carcinogenic smart meter radiation transmissions. See…….

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/smart-meters-but-at-whose-expense-20121223-2btjd.html

    “Cameron O’Reilly, the scion of the Heinz food empire and former chief of media group APN, along with John B. Fairfax, the Smorgon family and Kerry Stokes are a few of the high-profile names to have made a killing from the sale of smart meters. They were major shareholders of Landis + Gyr, the company that amassed about 56 per cent of the market in deals to supply the electricity distributors in Victoria. Their big payday came in 2011 when O’Reilly sold Landis + Gyr to Toshiba for $US2.3 billion.”

    I was listening to radio station 3AW the other day advertising itself as “FAIRFAX RADIO”.
    Is Neil Mitchell prepared to bite the hand that feeds him by exposing his employer John Fairfax as having profiteered from criminality ie. the immeasurable misery that has been forcefully and deceitfully inflicted upon Victorian Citizens against their will and the looming future health crisis when cancer cases together with other biological manifestations start to go through roof for persons having had sufficient continuous exposure to the radiation pulses of these heinous devices. Neil Mitchell’s muzzling on the topic of smart meters makes perfect sense.

    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/smart-meters-but-at-whose-expense-20121223-2btjd.html#ixzz2tOiDraGe

  147. Peter says:

    Queensland, NSW and Victoria, we had better start buying Chinese flags for our houses of parliament!!!!!!!
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/economics/treasurer-approves-chinese-investment-in-electricity-gas-and-water/story-e6frg926-1226787773607

    • Gwen says:

      Thanks Peter for info. Disgusting and totally unAustralian and absolutely not in our best interests.

    • geoffrey says:

      it aint just oz folks, uk, nz canadia, usa-all the “5 eyes” countries, rest of europe too, africia and asia as well, this is a global run on the west by china whom is fully is backed by and funded by the worshipful company of bankers, bis, un, imf, wb and all the usual culprites.

  148. Peter says:

    Yet another attempt to white wash the facts regarding the safety of our beloved surveillance and control devices. If the past is anything to go by, the result is a forgone conclusion funded by the Victorian tax payer! Please, if this is the case, save the taxpayers money! I don’t think anyone in Victoria disputes that these devices comply with the required standards. It’s the standards that are the problem, and any review is pointless and waste of tax payers’ money, until these standards are brought up to relevant standards.
    But that is not going to happen, why? Look at the people pushing this extremely controversial rollout.
    The distributors. Enough said!
    Mr O’Brien, the previous minister responsible for the rollout of these surveillance devises, a member of the Victorian bar, and barrister and solicitor of the supreme court of Victoria and the high court of Australia. Mr O’Brien in his capacity as ‘minister for meters’, made such statements as; ‘they are compulsory’, ‘you cannot refuse them’, ‘you may be disconnected from the grid for refusing them’. etc .
    In August 2013, in a letter to Mr O’Brien, I asked him to produce the legislation stating ‘they are compulsory’ ‘customers cannot refuse them’ etc. I am still waiting for him to respond! Yes, he has changed his position, but that does not absolve him from answering for his actions at that time!
    O’Briens successor, Mr Kotsiras, his real job is a school teacher, hopefully, his returning to his real calling! Possibly because he at least has some integrity, and cannot support this undemocratic government decision?
    ‘Minister for meters’ #3, Mr Matthew Guy, BA. As yet an unknown quantity, suffice to say that one of his previous posts was VFF manager marketing and communications.
    Mr Paul Fearon, the guy responsible for the safety of these devises. Previous occupations; worked in the electricity industry having senior roles in production, treasury and corporate planning including a stint as energy advisor to the Victorian government. In 2003-2009, he was CEO of the ESC (the rollout started late 2009, coincidence?). This guy doesn’t have a conflict of interest in the installation of these devices? Was it his idea in the first place? In his last review, he stated that ‘all available evidence shows these devices are safe and that Victorians should have confidence in them’. The only evidence he quotes in his review, are the out of date standards, no mention of the many documents which disagree with his view. Well Mr Fearon, as many thousands of Victorians have shown their ‘confidence in these devices’ by locking their meter boxes and refusing to accept them, perhaps it’s time you took off those biased rose coloured glasses and took a more open view of ALL the evidence and not just the stuff that suits your purpose.
    I strongly urge every subscriber to this site to once again get writing to the Victorian ombudsman and your local MP’s. From experience, the EWOV and the ESC aren’t worth a fat rats’ clacker, as far as this issue is concerned, neither can, or will, do anything to address the many complaints they receive.
    It’s a hard fight, but is it time we became as aggressive as our tormentors, the government and Victorian distributors? I believe the legislation is there to support us; we only need the Victorian government to enforce it! The distributors and government have put their own interpretation on legislation to support their side; we must do the same to defend our democratic right.

    • Citizen for Democracy says:

      Great post, Peter! I agree with all you say.
      Any future ‘audit’ that does not carefully assess the claims of the 165 people who have formally registered as having developed symptoms from smart meters is not worth the paper it’s written on.
      Honestly, who, in their right mind, would leave their job or move house or even move interstate if their health had not seriously been affected! The numbers are way to big for the government to be claiming this is a case of global hysteria. Moreover, inertia is a well known human psychological trait – for thousands of people in Victoria to be actively resisting smart meter installation means something REAL is happening, for sure.
      It took 50 years to legally prove the harm done by Thalidomide, yet people were suspicious and some knew the truth right from the beginning, but they were silenced by the interests of large corporations in collusion with government – same thing is happening now. IT MUST BE STOPPED.

    • What an excellent blog Peter; you have made some fine points. It is definitely time to ramp up our opposition, and I say again to SSMA what is happening re the new political force (their recent blog in January)!!

    • Ian McClarron says:

      Hi, I’m not sure how to post here so I have just clicked the reply button to see what happens. My wife and I have only just found out about the dangers of smart meters. We had one installed 3 years ago as part of the solar panel system. The meter is on the opposite side of the wall to the head of our bed, about half a meter away from our heads.
      I have been suffering headaches every night for the last few years waking up to take pain killers. We have now both developed cancer, my wife had a hysterectomy last month and I have to have my prostate removed next week. My wife is 47 years old and I’m 58.
      Where do we go to be safe? Where do we move to? It’s like a plague infecting the world and no one is interested in finding a cure , in fact the government seems hell bent on spreading the disease. We live in Calamvale Brisbane Australia, my name is Ian McClarron.

      • Gwen says:

        Ian, I don’t have words to describe how I feel after reading your story. A definition of horror comes close, ‘an overwhelming and painful feeling caused by something frightfully shocking, terrifying, or revolting’. I sincerely hope and pray you and your wife win this battle. You need to ask the power company to remove the meter as well as telling them your story. Also send a copy to your local politician so it’s on record. There was a councillor in Brisbane fighting against fluoride being added to the drinking water. Maybe you can find out who he is and if he could help. All the very best wishes for success.

      • Peter says:

        Hello Ian
        Very sorry to hear of your family’s health issues, unfortunately, as these devises are to be installed Australia wide, (it is a COAG agreement) there will be nowhere in Australia to escape these things unless we can get the COAG agreement repealed!
        I might suggest you register your health problems here on this site. I believe this register is forwarded to the relevant authorities’.
        Here in Victoria there is to be yet another review of the SAFETY of these devises, whether this will include health issues this time, remains to be seen, sadly, in the past this has not been the case as, in my opinion, ARPANSA refuses to update its standards using updated relevant information.
        It appears to be a sad fact, that Victoria is not the only Australian state which has health issues which seem to be strongly connected to the installation of these devices.
        I was informed by the Queensland government some time ago that these devises have been in use in that state on a voluntary basis since the 1990’s, but they did not say how many are in use at this time.
        It would be interesting to hear from more Queenslanders who have issues with these things, not only the health issues, in order to register your concerns at an early stage, before you find yourselves in the sort of struggle we Victorians in in.

        • Sick Of Their Lies says:

          Interesting that the Chair of the COAG Reform Council currently, is no other than former Victorian Labor Premier John Brumby, one of the original key people involved and responsible for the unleashing on us, the dangerous, life threatening “smart” meter technology in the first place, way back in 2010 when he was serving as OUR Premier, to carry out OUR wishes, which he dismally failed at, repeatedly.

          “Opposition energy spokesman Michael O’Brien said that smart meters were the ”myki of metering”.
          ”Every Victorian family is paying for smart meters whether they have them or not … Victorians will be paying for John Brumby and Peter Batchelor’s smart meter stuff-up for years to come,” he said.”

          God help us all.

  149. geoffrey says:

    Mike Mitcham of Stop Smart Meters uk interviewed about smart meter program being uk’s next tech disaster.

    • John M says:

      @geoffrey. Thanks for posting that it was very informative. I also found the RT video they mentioned titled: The Truthseeker: ‘Unequivocal’ Cell phones cause cancer. I recommend anyone that uses a mobile phone to watch it.

  150. Anonymous says:

    Hi There,

    Just wondering if anyone can tell me if ripple control receivers emit any radiation.
    Thanks

  151. geoffrey says:

    this is what you get for resisiting a smart meter in new zealand.
    think it wont happen here?

    • Jasmine says:

      We are not in New Zealand, I have already seen this video. Minister Kotsiras was on the radio today speaking about smart meters, he said he believes smart meters are safe and there is one outside his bedroom. I would like to see where his smart meter is for myself as I doubt it would be near his head. He also did not state what safe actually means. What smart meters are proven to be safe for. He did not say they don’t give you cancer. No one said this was going to be easy. The police have to go by the law as well.

      • geoffrey says:

        @jas, oh yeah, they play by the rules don’t they:?” Remember Richmond High back in 93?? All those mums and dads and school kiddies being beaten by Vic pol??? Little reminder-tip of the iceberg

        • Jasmine says:

          To Geoffrey I know they don’t play by the rules. Almost 18 years ago four police officers turned up on Mother’s day at my home. They had a search warrant for marijuana plants. The plants were marigolds that had not flowered yet. They new this as soon as they saw them. They searched our home and even my daughters bedroom. She was not even two at the time. They interrogated us as well, knowing quite well that they had made a mistake. They even asked who my daughters father was, even though he was sitting right next to me. They then threw the warrant on my bed and left. I phoned the ombudsman’s office the next day. He told me that he also grew marigolds. I remember this footage and have seen lots of shocking behaviour on the internet, not only here but from around the world. They rifled through all our private possession including underwear draws. They did not find anything, because there was nothing to find. I know what they are capable of.

    • Gwen says:

      Totally horrified at the treatment of this man by corrupt police who deserve sacking and horse whipping. Absolutely disgusted and this is what abbott has brought into our communities. We will be thrown to the ground like the Protesters of the east, west road link. It won’t matter your age or gender.

  152. geoffrey says:

    another evil of smart meters, this may be the real reason for the global rollout-mind control-its not science fiction anymore.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/10/24/microwaves-smart-meters-and-the-use-of-electronics-for-mind-control/

    i urge everybody to read this artical if not done already.

  153. Can someone Please tell me WHY, If We Have 7267 Blog Followers And 3247 Face Book Likes Of Stop Smart Meters, Why Is It That My Petition To Stop And Remove Smart Meters, ONLY Has Just Over 600 People That Have Signed. Did You Know That Every Time Someone Signs It, The Powers That Be (Government) Get A Email To Tell Them That Someone Else Has Signed .
    Five Times Sp AusNet Have Harassed me now, trying to stand over me to have a smart meter, and every time they come, they are tolled to PISS OFF !

    • Eric says:

      Five Times Sp AusNet Have Harassed me now, trying to stand over me to have a smart meter, and every time they come, they are told to PISS OFF !

      The beauty about this is that each subsequent time that they are told to PISS OFF, it would abrase against them even more than each of the previous times. If they continue to harass us, then let’s do it the way that we know best but let’s make sure that our message continues to be conveyed to them as clearly as ever.

    • geoffrey says:

      im guessing its .gov or their sub contractors playing games on the numbers and not letting the folks in, or fooling them with fakes, promiting it more here and maybe having a pole and petition on this site might help too.

      sp china net have had no luck with me either 😦 hello-national security issue having a communist facisit nation with controling intrest in “our” power grid with their reputation on hacking our data????????????????????????

    • geoffrey says:

      the numbers dont add up……..90000 refused in 2011…and now what are the numbers in 2014????
      you would think that there would be at least 10000 to sign the petition unless something “else” is going on.

      am i the only one who can see this?

      • Jasmine says:

        Not everyone has a computer Geoffrey and a lot of people don’t have the internet as well. Most of the elderly in my area don’t have access to the internet. Those figures are from when the smart meters were put on hold by the government and you could say no till the review was finished, there where no threats at the time. Since then many people have been threatened and intimidated into accepting a smart meter. They have come home to find one installed. That is why the figures don’t add up. Geoffrey no one is begrudging you a possible cancer causing meter. It does not matter if there is 5 of us or 100 or 1000,we are not statistics we are people. You need to actually do some research, your figures are from very early on when the threats, harassment and intimidation had barely started .Don’t forget smart meter radiation was not put on the World Health Organization’s possible 2b carcinogenic list until may 2011.

        • geoffrey says:

          @jas, not sure you understand my post. I’m well aware of the “have and have nots” thanks, and yeah oldies ain’t keen on technology and I absolutely don’t think of folks as statistics, and in no way support the deployment of these evil meters. I research alot too. Try looking into how “impartial” the who is. You will find no redemption with these criminals if you “research” hard enough, as to the figures, yes from 2011, pre review, my point being that if there are 7000 odd blog followers, one would assume that most would be on Eddie’s petition and a good number of the 90000 too, but your assumptions aside, you need to cool your ego and look to helping folks, NOT handing out personal judgments. Maybe you need some time relaxing in the bush without electricity, mobile phones & wi-fi.
          Anyways, I have turned away SP China net 4 times and my sister had one installed after they conned her to open the lock to read the meter and she left it open and they then snuck in and installed one against her wishes.
          In the interests of goodwill maybe you should suggest a paper petition for the tech less. I’d be more than willing to letterdrop 20000 or so, let me know 🙂

          • Jasmine says:

            Dear Geoffrey, I do not have an ego problem. As for helping people, I think I do more than my fair share as the older people in my area phone me if they need help, that includes my mother as well. I have also handed out leaflets. There was also a smart meter information night held at our community center, which I, and a few others arranged. Quite a lot of people turned up and more would of come if the local paper had not misprinted the date. My neighbour and I walked around in 40 degree heat giving out pamphlets for many days.. I do not use a mobile phone nor do I have wireless internet. As for your suggestion to go the bush, yes that sounds like a good idea, but is not possible for me. Not until this is all over, will I be able to relax. And if you are wondering why I get so worked up, I have seen enough people suffer and die with cancer. They want to put multiple meters on my daughters bedroom wall. Not only would I be worried about a fire starting but also the radiation. I wrote to the WHO and received a reply. I asked them if it was safe for my daughter to sleep near multiple meters and other questions. Most of the reply was made up of what smart meters are capable of, but down the bottom of the page in brackets was written (THE HAZARD STILL EXISTS). They did not answer the questions I asked, although nowhere in the letter does it state that smart meter radiation is safe or won’t give you cancer. I have read all about the WHO and how they’re funded.

            • geoffrey says:

              @jas, We share a similar anger. I too will not rest until all these criminals are removed. The who/un/wto/bis/.gov are NOT what they claim and are actively working against common law and free women and men everywhere. Expect no help from these. Keep up your good work against them them.

      • Vickie says:

        To all the helpful and kind people at SSMA, I wish to thank you from the bottom of my heart. I came here for advice and was overwhelmed by the caring people who responded to my concerns. I took the advice I was offered and stayed strong on my right to keep myself and my family safe. I have just received a registered letter formally acknowledging my refusal to accept a smart meter and removing my meter from the smart meter exchange program. The letter goes on to say additional costs may be incurred next year. I only have the support and help from the good people at Stop Smart Meters Australia to thank for helping me keep my home and family safe. Many thanks and Kindest regards Vickie. .

        • Eric says:

          Vickie, good on you. May I suggest you consider keeping your meter box locked. The Electricity Distribution companies have shown that they can never be trusted again. Their conduct has been unforgivable and they must be made to answer for it.

          For those that have received this same letter, I would consider putting the Distribution Company on the spot concerning these “additional costs”. To make them elaborate what they are exactly and to state that you don’t consent to them. They won’t have any comeback because those additional costs currently do not exist. Of course we know that this is nothing but their attempt to extort money from us to not radiate us and which they cannot even begin to attempt to do till March 2015. And yes they use that magical word “may” because they know they could be pushing their barrow uphill to actually succeed in bringing in their additional extortive costs.

        • Con says:

          Hi Vicki,
          Could you please be kind enough to explain the steps you took to receive a formal acknowledgment to refuse a smart meter and refusing the removal of your existing meter please.
          Thanking you in advance.

          • Vickie says:

            Thank you Eric and Con. Eric, I will do as you suggested. My meter box is still locked and will remain that way. Con, I took the steps suggested here. Locked my meter box, signs up, when I got my notices re installation, I emailed, called and wrote to the appropriate people.
            I was very fortunate to be home when installers came and I promptly told them to leave. This happened four times. I never backed down.
            I wish you well in your fight to keep your family and home safe. The best advice is right here on this site. I would not have won this personal fight without the valuable advice here. Good Luck : ) Regards Vickie

    • Jasmine says:

      I signed your petition and I would lie to know as well.

    • John M says:

      @eddiesblkdorpers. I can tell you specifically why I didn’t sign your petition and perhaps that might help with at least one explanation as to why your numbers are so low.

      The government ‘already knows’ there is at least 75000 people refusing electricity smart meters, so at least 75000 signatories would be a moot and redundant point to make. However, they don’t specifically know who those people are, yet!. Although they’re trying to get that personal information released to them from the power distributors and retailers.

      Signing your petition and having the government notified of another person signing, and or the petition with all it’s signatories, email addresses etc potentially being given too, or ‘taken by government’ is exactly what they would like to have: – A nice tidy list of all the dissenters, objectors, refuser’s etc to personally target or cross reference with other political dissent or activism. Why help do their job for them is what I thought. I don’t know what, if any identifying information they get from signing such petitions? If I balked at that, you can bet others did too.They will probably eventually collate/gather the information anyway, but let them work for it.

      Those that are still left without electricity smart meters ARE stopping them where they are now by our own actions of not giving in. I don’t need to petition government for that. They also know already there’s at least 75000 people that are going to be the same ones that will also object to water and gas smart meters being installed as well. So, again at least the first 75000 signatures of any ‘generalized’ stop smart meter petition is somewhat redundant and old news to them that will achieve nothing (beneficial to ourselves).

      For those that already have a smart meter that didn’t want one, a ‘targeted petition’ specifically demanding their removal based on the lies, coercion, bullying, harassment, failure to deliver benefits, increased prices, health effects etc etc might be the way to go and better served if it isn’t muddied by two different objectives and groups. There’s probably a lot of those that were conned and tricked also wanting to mount a class action lawsuit and sue about now too. IMO, A petition that makes it clear that most if not all of those that sign are on top of the 75000 refuser’s (that are a given) would be more effective.

      And in any of these types of petitions to government (especially these days) don’t forget there’s likely a fear factor along with typical human apathy and complacency.

      • Ashley says:

        I’m like you on this, John. I would be open however to someone explaining to what degree petitions actually will help. After all, I think it should be apparent by now that we are dealing with persons who have ALREADY sold their souls. I don’t yet see that a petition has the power to change that.

        Something I feel needs to be better understood is the fact that we create the world we have, through mentally. It is only the mentality, the collective conspiracy within the public’s mental make-ups of which pervades society, that in it’s way grants permission to the perpetrators of Smart Meters, yet has the power to deny permission too.

        I consider that It is actually more beneficial to focus on educating our neighbours and the people around us, our fellow members of the public of which includes the Power Companies foot soldiers, so that mental desire works upwards rather than trying to ask sell-outs at the top if they wouldn’t mind fixing things. The importance of this should not be underestimated; I have no doubt the conspirators at the top know this too.

  154. Ada says:

    I watched a program on the Amish last Saturday and it was quite an eye-opener. They live what I believe is a really good quality of life in beautiful large homes surrounded by nature – WITHOUT ELECTRICITY! They just have a generator for running a washing machine and a few tools they need. At night they use gas lamps. If only we changed they way we live – just a little – I’m sure we could also live off grid and not be held ransom by the Foreign Owned Power Companies, that care nothing for our Human Rights. Much to be learnt from the Amish who seek to live independently and are not ‘suckers’ for technology we don’t even need!
    In stark contrast to that, last week The Age pictured a mother that ‘needed’ Google Glasses to breastfeed (thereby irradiating both her eyes and her baby’s) so the ‘lactating consultant’ could see the baby suckling and advise her. It just seems quite monstrous to me – like a gadget desperately looking for a purpose. How did we come to this? How did the generations before us manage to breastfeed and populate the planet without the need for Google Glasses? Not sure whether to laugh or cry!

    • Jasmine says:

      Dear Ada, I have also seen a documentary on the Amish. My mother had five children. She had to bake her own bread and wash by hand.
      We walked everywhere, no air conditioning, barely any heat. A lot of people have told me they grew up like this. As I got older I realized that it wasn’t so bad growing up like that. My children to some extent are also growing up the same. They swelter in summer and we only have a heater in the lounge room, although their life is much easier than mine was, because of new technology. They could also pay a higher price. My father used to always tell me that only the strong survive. People are lazy and greedy and selfish as well. They want everything and they want it now. That is how we got to to where we are now. There is no respect now, no compassion, no empathy and no sympathy. A couple of years ago my son said to me “mum if all the bad people were taken from this world there would not be many of us left”.

    • Tanya says:

      If the power companies push me too far on the smart meter issue or even the ridiculous expense of having electricity or a landline phone, I am prepared to tell them to disconnect me. I’m sick of companies slugging us just to have the utility provided, whether we use it or not.

      I keep this prospect in mind so that I can consider how I will cope without electricity and phone.

    • John M says:

      @Ada. ” If only we changed they way we live – just a little” Some of us are aiming towards having that type of life and currently making changes. Letting go of so much unnecessary baggage.

      If we don’t shift away from our dependencies on things that are unessential in life then the leaches and kleptoparasites of this world that prey on us to define and give meaning to their wealth and value will continue to strip us of everything, and discard us like rubbish when done. The Amish and many other groups of humans have been aware of so much of the trappings of life and wanted nothing to do with it. Much admiration should be shown to those that break free, but instead we’re taught often to ridicule those that do.

      Our addictions to useless distractions and our inability to discern between needs and wants is a weapon that is wielded so effectively against us. I often think of native peoples and gypsies etc and the way of life they once had and gave up, or were ultimately forced to by being seduced and addicted to ‘things’. To be economic slaves like the rest of us trading our life’s finite time and energies collecting trinkets, baubles, and shiny things. Nothing has changed in so long a time. 😦

      We and previous generations have almost made God’s of men on this earth playing ‘their game’. Humanity must drastically alter it’s course. Human civilization to this point has been nothing more than one giant game of Monopoly with some bloodshed and genocide along the way thrown in to reduce the number of players and liberate the bounty they once possessed .

      “Not sure whether to laugh or cry!” I feel that way often watching people still trapped.

  155. Ted Hunt says:

    Letter From Sp Ausnet Dated 20 Jan 2014
    Received On 24 Jan 2014
    Dear Owner
    An Sp AusNet representative attempted to install a new electricity meter at the above address however the installation could not be completed.
    The planned work is part of the Victorian Goverment’s Smart Meter Program and the new smart meter is now the industry standard in Victoria. This means that it is mandatory for all Victorian electricity customers to have a smart meter installed at their premises.
    Please find attached an information pack related to the rollout.
    AS advised under section 3.3 of the Electricity Distribution Code (Jan 2011) a customer is required to allow SP AusNet as the owner of the electricity meter, clear and unhindered access for the new meter installation to occur.
    Please contact our customer service centre on 1300 360 795 to reschedule your installation or if you require any further information
    Yours Sincerely
    Customer Services
    Sp AusNet

    GOT NEWS FOR YOU YOU’LL BE WAITING ALONG TIME FOR MY CALL. NEVER WILL I GIVE IN TO YOU. YOU NEED A COURT ORDER & POLICE TO GET TO MY! METER !!!

    • Jasmine says:

      Yes Ted, they will need a court order and police to install their possible cancer causing spying devices. How can you make a potentially deadly weapon, that also spies on you, mandatory? There is a question for them.

    • Dan says:

      Even a court order with police presence will be rendered totally useless by a simple phone call with message “SP AUSNET Disconnect power now and F OFF my premises forever”. Not likely they’ll get any smart meter in then is it.

      Customers have control over corporations by choosing not to buy their stinking products.

    • Dan says:

      They will sell their products to us on our terms or they can stick their products up their rear.

    • Altered Meek says:

      Well done Ted ! I should be receiving that letter soon.
      Until they prove to me in writing that they :
      1) own the meter; and
      2) where in legislation (Act of Parliament) it is clearly defined they are LEGALLY allowed to install a wireless smart meter?
      They are not going to change anything on my property.
      None of this fluff about a Code. It means NOTHING! How can they enforce a law that DOESN’T EXIST?
      Go away SP AusNet and take the other 4 distributors with you on the way out.

    • Ted Hunt says:

      NEWS FLASH: A friend has been taken OFF the smart meter roll out. YES, you have read it right, he got a letter from origin energy telling him that after his continual refusal to have one fitted, they have taken him off the list, but he may be up for extra charges after 2015.
      I’m getting a copy of the letter to post he is on a large property in Sale Victoria 🙂

      • Altered Meek says:

        United Energy sent a similar letter as well, but they stated “we will honour your request to not have the smart meter installed at this time”.
        So this letter is not a “be all and end all”, what they are effectively saying is that “we can’t do anything about you refusing our meter right now, but we will be back when we can do something to make you have it”.
        As far as I’m concerned, let them give it their best shot as they will not win.
        TOGETHER, WE THE PEOPLE, WILL BE VICTORIOUS !

  156. Con says:

    Kostiras recently announced publicly that he is getting out of politics, so he is obviously not going to be in the running for the next election.
    My opinion is that this was a decision made a while ago so that’s why he was made the minister of energy. They put Kotsiras in an area that a huge amount of Victorians are concerned about and he (Kotsiras) couldn’t even give a sh!t about it because he is throwing in the towel and going to enjoy his parliamentary perks for the rest of his life.
    So we can all write to him and intimidate him that we wont vote for him at the ballot box but he want even be on the voting card. So it makes one wonder what has happened to all the letters sent in with hardly anyone getting a reply? He must have told them to get him a HUGE paper shredder as a farewell present.
    So it all makes sense now as to why he has been so arrogant and such an ……………….

  157. geoffrey says:

    Can we start to replace the smart meters with good old analog???? Is it illegal to do so?????? Alot of people are suffering from these devices.
    Also, companies have used estimates or self reading successfully for years, at NO EXTRA COST TO CUSTOMERS.

    • Informed Choice says:

      I don’t see why not, Geoffrey. It is just one giant cash grab after all.

    • Jasmine says:

      To Geoffrey. maybe Stop Smart Meters can advise you on this matter, or someone who has legal expertise in this area. It is your home after all. Can you go to the distributors headquarters and install lead? Which is also a possible 2b carcinogen.

      • Petrer says:

        Unfortunately, no you cannot replace your smart meter without risking a hefty fine from ESV. This seems to be what happened to everyone’s hero Jason! I believe he was threatened with a $20,000 fine.
        The latest skulduggery of Kotsiras now forbids the distributors to fit any thing other than a surveillance devise. (I have been asking the government for years whether distributors can fit anything other than a surveillance devise, this is obviously their answer! They have never answered my question directly because they couldn’t until now!)To deny these are anything but surveillance devises is bulldust, as shown by this link to the Vic gov site, which blatantly shows that individual homes can and will be ‘profiled’! You can only profile some one by carrying out surveillance. Even the police force require a court order before they can install a surveillance devise!
        http://www.smartmeters.vic.gov.au/about-smart-meters/reports-and-consultations/advanced-metering-infrastructure-customer-impacts-study-volume-2/appendix-e-confidence-intervals-around-electricity-usage-profiles
        Kotsiras has been able to pass this legislation because it is an amendment to an existing bill and dose not require a statement of compliance with the Victorian Human Rights and Responsibilities Act 2006. The Privacy Commission recommended closing this loop hole back in 2011, but of course this recommendation was ignored as has all recommendations detrimental to this undemocratic rollout decision by both major Victorian fascist parties.
        Now we have Abbott telling the world to let businesses rule our lives and that governments just support them!!!!!!!! OOOOOOOh DEEEAARR!

    • Jasmine says:

      Jason removed his own meter and it was filmed i believe. That was the problem it presented a safety hazard. Ask questions and keep on asking you will eventually find the answers you are seeking.I would definitely get legal advice on this matter. Its your home,health,body and life.Mr Kotsiras is a public servant he is here to serve us not the other way around.

      • Peter says:

        Jasmine
        I believe Jason got his installation certified by a licenced electrician; which was accepted by ESV, but Powercor still refused to put his electricity back on. I believe the fine was related to Electricity Distribution Code 12.5c and/or d.

        This raises an interesting question. All this legislation applies to the distributors ‘using their best endeavours’. Then the government has now said that they are to only fit surveillance devises, this contradicts ‘use best endeavour’s’. Also, Electricity Customer Metering Code 6.1 states that a customer can request a different TYPE of meter and the distributor ‘must use its REASONABLE endeavours to install that type of metering equipment WITHIN 20 BUSINESS DAYS of receiving a written request to do so. Surely, when the distributors either ignore the request, or refuse the request, (both these actions fail to comply with the legislation) the customer has the right to engage a licenced electrician to replace the meter with an analogue meter, which is still in use by other customers throughout Australia?

        I am quite sure, this site is being watched with beady eyes; by ‘the powers that be’, so can we expect more legislation to prevent this occurring? If so, this will confirm the state of Victoria as a totalitarian state!

        This is the ridiculous situation the Victorian government has put us in! There are so many pieces of legislation which contradict each other on the one hand, and other pieces of legislation which the distributors are allowed to ignore with impunity!

        I wrote to the ESC asking what they intend to do about the way many Victorians who were misled into accepting a surveillance devise; because of the false statements made by the likes of OBrien, the installers and the distributors, (the ESC had previously admitted that this was not consistent with’ best endeavours’) whether those customers had the right to demand the return of their analogue meters. I asked several other questions regarding the customers rights and the obligation the ESC has under its charter. My letter was sent last July, so far, as I said in my last post, the ONLY (indirect) reply, has been regarding the fitment of other than surveillance devises!

        I hope the people of Australia are getting the picture of just how hypocritical the governments of Australia are, they criticize other countries for abusing human rights, and here we are having to fight tooth and nail against not only corporate business, but a government which continues to disregard its own human rights laws!!!!!!

        Much of the legislation used in Victoria is also Federal legislation, eg, NER, AER etc. So without a doubt, the other states are just sitting back to see how far the people of Victoria can be pushed without too much of a back lash. The government do not want to upset their voters, so they are letting the business corporations take the blame.

        • Jasmine says:

          Dear Peter, I know Jason hired an electrician and the meter installation was deemed safe, but would they have been able to punish him if he had used a licensed electrician in the first place? I think it is very important that people find out where they stand legally in regards to changing their meter. They also need to make sure a qualified electrician is performing this work. What Jason did was very brave, unfortunately they had to make an example of him to deter others. Why can’t we buy our own meters and have them installed? Jason was protecting his family, that takes courage.
          The mental wounds they have inflicted on us will heal, but the scars will never go away. The mental trauma we have suffered, will be stored somewhere in the back of our minds, waiting to resurface in the future.
          Do you not find it hypocritical Peter, that our so called leaders attended Nelson Mandela’s funeral and mourned him? How dare they mourn a man that fought for freedom and an end to oppression? They don’t answer the hard questions. They don’t have the intelligence. If they can’t answer our questions, then they have no right to exercise a mandate..
          I’m sure they check this website. We tell the truth and we are not hiding anything. We are not doing anything wrong. We are protecting ourselves and our families from harm.
          I can sleep at night knowing I have not harmed anyone.
          Here is a quote from the book “A Handmaids Tale” which just about says it all.
          ‘DON’T LET THE BASTARDS GRIND YOU DOWN”

          • Peter says:

            Hi Jasmine
            The point I tried to make in the earlier submission is, Kotsiras’ new legislation requires the DISTRIBUTORS to install ONLY surveillance and control devises, it does NOT prevent them from allowing a CUSTOMER to installing a different TYPE of meter at their own expense. (Electricity Customer Metering Code 6.1)
            Another point of interest is, both the government and the distributors claim they (distributors) own the meters, (a) neither have ever provided any PROOF of ownership, and (b) if the distributors DO own them, what right does the government have; to demand that a privately owned corporate provide only ONE type of product?

        • geoffrey says:

          I wonder why stop smart meters australia is not pushing for folks to replace the “smart” meters? It seems that it is not illegal to do so, lots of threats from power pushers, but no action yet on the legal front. Why just defensive measures only? Yes there is a class action, but why the lack of advice from the legal team on this issue? If there are answers to these questions, where are they?

          Alot of my posts have not been posted which makes me wonder of the authenticity of this group. They have not been inciting violence or obscene material so why?? Taking bets on if this gets through, odd are 33-1 and rising with every post. It seems here moderation means censorship. PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG, I am not trolling, just trying to inform and understand TRUTH. 🙂

          If anybody still thinks the government is not a corporation see below clip

          • Jasmine says:

            Dear Geoffrey, if it wasn’t for Stop Smart Meters Australia we would all have their radiation meters by now. They post legal advice. They also keep us up to date on what is happening. This forum is also important as we can find out what is happening to other people in different parts of Victoria. I think Stop Smart Meters Australia is working on the problem you mentioned. They have to get it right the first time, as there are many people that want their meters removed also. Unfortunately this takes time. One of my friends explained that the Government is a corporation. He actually told me things that I would never have known. You will get that meter removed and hopefully soon.

            • geoffrey says:

              thanks jas, i guess i lost my bet as to it being posted…lol, but the information i present is very pertinent, i admit ssma are providing a valuable service, we must ALL be aware of the dangers to the system of this FACT-power in unifyed numbers, HENCE THEY WILL DO EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO STOP THIS, including co opting this group, fudging numbers, hacking, re writing the “law”, fines and jail. i have seen it played out over and over again the same way. i say this not to incite fear but to inform all you great folks of the dangers and tactics these criminals use. the lock the gate movement has been influtrated, they fear us getting informed and orginised, we all gotta stay frosty, orginise a decentralised resistance to ALL the problems facing this country because we are all facing the death of a thousand pinpricks. the transhumanist agenda is in full swing and will destroy us all using finance, technology and our ego and acquiescence if we fail to come together in peace for all for peace and abundance for all. we have all been played for a very long time and i for one am over it. 🙂

          • Peter says:

            Hi Geoffrey
            I am glad some one else has brought the sacrifices’ made in the past; in two World Wars and those since, to defend democracy.
            The sad fact is, many servicemen and women who have served their country, are now having to battle the rising cost of this AMI rollout.
            As an ex service man myself, I wrote a letter to the head of the Victorian RSL, Major General David McLachlan AO, expressing my concern for these hero’s and their struggle. That was more than two years ago and I have still not had a reply, so I ‘googled’ him. This link might explain his lack of interest.
            http://www.australiaday.vic.gov.au/get-involved/ambassadors/major-general-david-mclachlan-ao-rtd/
            It’s interesting that this was put out by the department of the premier!
            This link, in my opinion indicates his respect for our Queen and service personnel, past and present.
            http://radicalroyalist.blogspot.com.au/2010/04/rsl-refuses-to-sing-royal-anthem.html

          • Eric says:

            Geoffrey, the bulk of my many many posts have been posted with minimal moderation, and only where I can see there is necessity. There is no reason for your posts not to be posted unless I am missing something.

  158. Peter says:

    The new Victorian ‘mandate’, quoted on the home page, would seem to indicate that the government is listening to our questions.
    (1) That the government can still pass legislation without requiring a ‘statement of compatibility’ with the Victorian Human Rights and responsibilities Act 2006, because the new legislation is an amendment to an existing act. The Victorian Equal Opportunity & Human Rights Commission recommended closing this loop hole back in July 2011. Clearly this recommendation has been ignored for obvious reasons, it would have made it very difficult if not impossible for Kotsiras to justify this legislation!
    (2) Neither government dare to remove the phrase, ‘use their best endeavours’.
    (3) The government can no longer claim that the AMI roll out ‘is industry led’. The government is backing the industry to the hilt and forcing them to comply, but I do not hear any of the distributors protesting too strongly!
    (4) If the roll out is industry led, why does the government want the addresses of those who continue to refuse, (14AA.6 of the amendment)? What has it got to do with the government, who is refusing to accept a device supplied by a private company? Have they more dirty tricks up their sleeve?
    (5) 14AA.4 answers our questions whether distributors can fit anything but; surveillance devices!
    Having said that, the phrase ‘use best endeavours’ still applies, so we can still refuse the installation of these devises.
    We must not weaken at this stage, but become more diligent in keeping up with what the government and distributors are doing.
    Maintain the rage!

  159. Ada says:

    In response to todays article in the Herald Sun by state politics editor James Campbell waxing lyrical about the ‘benefits’ of smart meters (pure political spin aimed at defending the undefensible!), here is what will be presented in California on 28th January:

    “The High Road to a True Smart Grid”
    Billions of dollars of ‘smart’ utility meters are being installed across America that are unable to integrate with, or enable, the ‘smart grid’ of the future on which U.S. energy sustainability depends, according to the landmark report, “Getting Smarter About the Smart Grid” published by the National Institute for Science, Law and Public Policy in Washington, D.C.

    Called a colossal waste of taxpayer and ratepayer dollars, the new meters and networks do not improve energy efficiency, enhance energy management, help balance supply and demand, or facilitate the integration of renewable sources. Instead the meters drive up costs, introduce unnecessary risks to personal privacy and health, and divert resources from creating a true smart grid.

    Join us to dive deeply into the roots of electricity paralysis in the United States and learn what it will to take to create a reliable, safe, and sustainable electricity grid with our planetary interests at heart. Learn:
    •How state and local governments, and environmental organizations, have been misled about the purported benefits of ‘smart’ meters.
    •How ‘smart’ meter investments, using billions in stimulus funding, do not benefit ratepayers or support economic growth, but financially prop up unsustainable Investor-Owned-Utilities (IOUs), while postponing investment in genuine ‘smart’ technical solutions and the inevitable transition to a decentralized and democratized electricity system.
    •How conflicts of interests in the IOU monopoly utility business model are preventing us from moving to a renewable energy economy.
    •Why the utility industry is so desperately pushing back against rooftop solar and net metering?
    •Why the right to ‘opt out’ of ‘smart’ meters will not solve the pressing underlying risks and economic problems, nor will exploiting more fossil fuels
    •How “smart meters” may be a surveillance “drone” in your home.
    •How U.S. policymakers evidence a lack of a basic understanding of the problems associated with the future of energy and electricity.
    •Why local communities need to take control of their energy future, as we are seeing happening now in Boulder, CO.

    This interdisciplinary critique of our present electricity dilemma will clarify technical misunderstandings about ‘smart’ meters; the entrenched economic models preventing utilities from fully embracing renewable energy; and how the growing transpartisan ‘smart’ meter rebellion heralds an epochal transformation in the economy of energy. The panelists will lay out the next steps the U.S. must take to achieve clean energy abundance—for the sake of our pocketbooks, sustainable energy independence, global economic competitiveness, preservation of natural resources, enhanced national security and to forestall the looming threat to life on Earth from man-made global warming.

    The program, including Q&A, will explore the pivotal role communities and citizens can play, through political will, including transpartisan collaborations, in driving the needed transformation in this sector, and how a clean energy economy can be fast tracked through a truly innovative and pioneering collaborative financing arrangement between the private and public sectors.

    • Allan says:

      James Campbell makes me sick in the stomach

      Quote from his Herald Sun article
      “Luckily in Victoria, because of the far-sighted decision by the previous government in 2004 to mandate smart meters, we have the capacity to do something about it.

      OF course, it shouldn’t have taken 10 years and cost $2.3 billion, and it is almost unbelievable that as of last August there were half a million of the things still to be installed, but the Bracks and Brumby governments deserve credit for biting the bullet on something none of us wanted. Compare us with NSW, which last year was still dicking around with a “smart meter taskforce” debating whether to install them. The first benefits from smart meters began to flow in September when Kotsiras fired the starting gun on flexible pricing plans, which allow people to pay different rates for their electricity at different times of the day.”

      I feel revolted !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Jasmine says:

        Dear Allan, hopefully James Campbell has a smart meter on his home. The radiation will zero in on his testicles and eyes. As for Kotsiras, he is a public servant, we are the public. He serves us.

        • geoffrey says:

          @jas, i think kotsiras has already got himself a golden handshake and a nice new over paid job in the industry when he leaves “public” service.

    • Jasmine says:

      The roll out of the smart meters was always going to continue past the December 2013 deadline. As long as the roll out continues we have to pay. I”d say the Government wants this mess finished before the election. My analog meter reader has told me that he only has work till June 2014. Things will get worse before they get better, officially their orders are to try hard to poison my family with radiation. Unofficially there orders could be completely different. Who knows what they have been told unofficially, I guess we will find out soon enough. What dirty underhanded tricks have they got up there sleeves? I wonder if they enlisted the services of a psychologist to see what sort of mind games they can play. What terror tactics they can use on us, but you can only push people so far. This reminds me about the end of the Nazi regime. They tried to destroy evidence. They did not want anyone finding out about about there atrocities. The people that had survived the concentration camps, were taking on death marches to finish them off. Many died, but a lot survived to tell the world. They can abuse our minds, maybe even our bodies, but not our spirit. The Dictator Joseph Stalin once said:
      “The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic.”.

      • Citizen for Democracy says:

        So true what you say, Jasmine. This Victorian government is responsible for the silent Holocaust that is happening in this state. They all individually will have to pay for what they’ve done, even if it takes a hundred years.

        • Jasmine says:

          Dear Citizen for Democracy, luckily for us we are a lot more advanced in technology. This forum and the internet is an updated version of the underground, where information is shared and warnings can be given. This is a war, both sides will have casualities. We only here about our side, but many of them will also fall. A secret is no longer a secret if more than one person knows. Their secrets are eventually going to come out. I have a quote that one of my neighbors gave me, and I keep a laminated copy of it on my fridge.
          KARMA
          No need for revenge. Just sit back and wait.
          Those who hurt you will eventually screw themselves up,
          And if your lucky, God will let you watch.

          • Citizen for Democracy says:

            Love the quote!
            Never has a situation been more ‘black and white’ – true peace of mind comes from knowing right from wrong – no-one can take that from us.

    • Jasmine says:

      This is from the Australian Human Rights Commission guide to Australia’s Counter =Terrorism Laws.
      3.1 Defining a Terrorist Act
      Section 100.1 of the Criminal Code defines a terrorist act as ‘an action or threat of action’ which is done or made with the intention of:
      advancing a political, religious or ideological cause; and
      coercing, or influencing by intimidation, the government of the Commonwealth, State or Territory or the government of a foreign country or intimidating the public or a section of the public.
      Action will only be defined as a terrorist act if it:

      causes serious physical harm or death;
      seriously damages property;
      endangers a person’s life;
      creates a serious risk to public health or safety; or
      seriously interferes with, seriously disrupts, or destroys, an electronic system
      Action will not be a terrorist act if it is advocacy, protest, dissent or industrial action and is not intended to cause serious physical harm or death, endanger the lives of others or create a serious risk to the public health or safety.

      The definition of a terrorist act has been criticised as being so broad its meaning is unclear.[21]

    • Mia says:

      This system is illegal, You cannot electrocute humans by turning them into ground wires for a wireless system, global or otherwise. Sooner or later that will become evident, but only after the injury toll is already very high. As a species we tend to learn too little, if at all, and usually only after it’s too late. Society is “currently” radiation addicted. Your greatest threat is those around you who are oblivious to others, hooked on wireless devices emitting radiation which the addicted user spews all over everyone else everywhere they go and dragging the frequencies from cell towers right into your personal space as well as every public space. And then there are the utilities who are no different than the telecom industry and often are one and the same entity as one another and as government.
      They need to be put back in their place
      That said consider surge suppressors to stop the worst of this:

      Surge suppression is no longer an option, it is a necessity.
      Transients can make you very ill. They can even kill you.
      What are transients?

      A transient (surge, impulse, spike) is defined as a temporary rise in voltage and current
      on an electrical circuit that has been disturbed. They are high energy (with magnitudes in
      the thousands of volts) and short duration (with rise times in the 1 to 10 microsecond
      range).

      Since they are sub-cycle events they should not be confused with longer duration events such as swells or temporary overvoltages. They disrupt, damage or destroy bioelectrical and electrical systems and electronic equipment, often in an instant, and/or cause cumulative damage over a period of time resulting in unexplained failures.

      External Creation of Transients

      Lightning strikes and utility company grid switching are the major external sources of transients. The ground surge from nearby lightning strikes can ravage electrical systems by entering unprotected circuits through the system ground.
      Cloud-to-cloud lightning discharges are capable of inducing electrical field intensities in the hundreds to
      thousands of volts per meter. If this type of transient appears across an unprotected
      power, telephone, data, or coaxial line the result can be system destruction.

      The bad news is that until very recently power utility companies have had little or no control over
      the surges induced on their power lines by others, meaning the ones which they themselves do not create. Noisy electrical neighbors sharing your electrical distribution system, such as welding shops, can also be a major source of transients.

      Examples of externally generated surge sources include:

      Lightning Strikes
      Direct Strikes (Cloud to Ground) – reach as high as 25,000 Volts
      Induced (Cloud to Cloud ) – reach as high as 15,000 Volts

      Utility Impulse Generators

      Load Shedding for Demand – reach as high as 15,000 Volts
      Power Factor Correction – reach as high as 15,000 Volts

      Internal
      Any time the flow of electrical energy is altered, transient activity can be the result. The simple act of turning on (or off) a light, motor, copy machine or any other electrical device can disturb the electrical circuit and create transients. In general, the larger the load current the greater the disturbance when the load is switched off or on. The switching of high ampacity loads such as electric welders and electric motors are known to create damaging transients. The simple fact is that the normal operation of most
      electrical equipment creates voltage surges and spikes. While they vary in magnitude and duration, they are constantly present in all unprotected circuits.

      Examples of internally generated surge sources include:

      Local Capacitive Loads – reach as high as 10,000 Volts
      Static Electricity – reach as high as 5,000 Volts
      Loose Wiring – reach as high as 3,000 Volts
      Inductive Load switching – reach as high as 7,000 Volts
      Switch Bounce On Starters/Contactors – reach as high as 10,000 Volts
      Electronic Loads Added – reach as high as 5,000 Volts
      Ground Potential Differences – reach as high as 10,000 Volts

      Other sources of internally generated transients include:
      Variable frequency drives
      Electronic or computer loads
      Electronic lighting ballasts
      Energy management systems
      SWITCH MODE POWER SUPPLY or SCR’s
      HVAC Systems
      Voltage Switching
      Space Heaters
      Copiers
      Printers

      Some of these sources can and do produce immediate catastrophic damage and interruption of your operation. Unlike physical damage, this damage is readily noticeable due to the large volumes of smoke and sometimes the fire that is caused when such an event is allowed to occur unchecked. Others produce cumulative damage. This damage occurs a little at a time over a period of time. Sort of like the damage you do to a block of ice with an ice pick. Each chip doesn’t amount to much but the cumulative affect is devastating.

      However, in the high tech world of today, the threshold between cumulative damage and
      catastrophic damage is swinging more and more to the low end of the spectrum of magnitude and duration. What that means to you, as an engineer, maintenance director, or consumer or user of energy is that surge suppression is no longer an option, it is a necessity.

      A Transient Voltage Surge Suppressor (TVSS) or Surge Protection Device (SPD), as they are also called, is a device that accomplishes two basic functions. It first provides a place for a rise in current and voltage to equalize (other than across your equipment) and secondly, it absorbs or diverts the excess energy to places other than the protected load. The object is to do all of this as quickly and effectively as possible, to be reliable
      enough to be ready when the next transient event occurs whether it be in 10 nanoseconds or 10 cycles and, to be able to repeat this performance over hundreds of thousands of events without failure.

      The major design goal is to divert as much of the transient energy away from the load as possible by providing a lower impedance path and then to address the effects of the surge with the components of the SPD. Various types of surge suppression components are used to provide this low impedance pathway, depending on the specific application of the device.

      The most common component found in AC voltage devices is the Metal Oxide Varistor (MOV). Under normal conditions the MOV presents itself as a high impedance element.
      However, when the voltage level rises to a level exceeding the threshold of the MOV, the
      resistance of the MOV drops rapidly (within nanoseconds) providing a low impedance
      path of flow. The MOV has become the component of choice in AC power applications (over 95% of AC SPD’s use MOV’s) because of its high energy handling capability and reliable clamping performance.

      Also, due to the lower magnitude of transient energy, the devices used for protection of
      computer data lines and telephone communication equipment contain components that vary drastically from those found in AC power devices. The goal is the same however, to provide effective/reliable protection as fast as possible and as many times as necessary to assure the survival of the protected equipment.

      Everyone who uses electricity (grid supplied or locally generated), telephone lines (voice only or fax/modem/data), computer data lines (data collection, data transmission, computer communication) needs some type of Transient Voltage Surge Suppression
      (TVSS).
      In short, anyone who uses wire to accomplish any of these functions is in need of effective/reliable surge suppression.

      • Jasmine says:

        Thanks Mia, I write a lot of your points in my notepad so I can remember them. Sometimes you need someone else to point out the obvious. Mia do you think that a psychologist is giving the distributors and government advice on what sort of mental stress to expose us to?

  160. Eric says:

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-14/planned-power-outage-leave-residents-in-a-sweat/5199070

    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/weather/power-cut-as-heatwave-bears-down-20140114-30rif.html

    Looks like the work of smart meters being able to remotely switch off people’s power with control being in the hands of the Electricity Distributor

    • Peter says:

      Hi Eric
      SPAusnet had people out working in 40oC + ? Has anyone checked which poles, and other assets were ‘serviced’?
      In my opinion, this is just ‘a toe in the water’ to see what reaction they get from the customer when the distributors don’t want to pay for the ‘peak demand’ electricity prices. After all, this is the whole concept of the ‘smart grid’!
      It is common knowledge, that if a system can be abused by corporate business, it will be abused; in the interest of profiteering, eg petrol pricing, bank charges etc, and no amount of legislation will stop it, even if the government wanted to stop it.

      • Mia says:

        Actually, more to the point, since most if not all corporations pass the 20 point checklist which qualifies them as psychopathological entities, it is common knowledge that IF customers can be abused by corporate businesses, chances are that they will be abused to the same extent that they are prepared to tolerate such abuse.
        If customers remain silent (consent) or engage in dialogue with the utility (consent) or make appeals to authority other than their own personal authority (consent) or submit letters of complaint (consent) or try to negotiate different terms (consent) or pleade for mercy (consent) or fall for fake corporate choices (consent) or if customers in any way whatsoever inadvertently give away to amy such corporate entity their own private consent they are legally agreeing to then be abused, be it by silence, by inaction, by wrongful action, and then with certainty they will be abused.
        Conversely, if customers correctly revoke any such consent to be abused by the lawful act of claiming or reclaiming their private right to refuse a bi-directional radiating transmitter (known in the industry as Network Management & Communication Equipment, which is used to manage the network they take over and use after they turn a private home into part of the smart grid), …then the customer will not be abused.
        No government can abuse without one of the following preconditions:
        1) the consent of the governed
        2) an overt police state
        3) a non negotiable dictatorship
        Barring a declared police state, the correct application of common law can and does stop customer abuse by a utility monopoly, be it private or public.
        In Canada, common law governs contract laws, trespass laws, and electrical code laws. Is it not similar in Australia?
        http://www.bc-freedom.com

        • Jasmine says:

          Thanks Mia I enjoy reading your posts. I made many of the mistakes you have pointed out, but not any more.

          • Mia says:

            You are most welcome. The up side of common law is that even if you make mistakes you can still turn that around and undo such mistakes. Once you get the hang of it, their tricks lose their ability to deceive.
            Just take back consent, revoke any inadvertently given, reclaim your inherent right of refusal.
            You are the real authority in this matter. They just need you to believe they are instead.
            The SOLE exception to being able to claim or reclaim a right is if you enter into any condition of statutory law, the laws which protect them from the customer, or if you join any lawsuit, particularly a class action lawsuit. That’s because by so doing you void all common law actions and in effect you then declare yourself unfit to handle your own affairs of commerce conducted with the utility. By signing your signature over to them you hand over all “power of attorney” to the attorney. Game over. The primary affiliation of the judge, court, lawyer is to that system, not to you.
            Your primary affiliation must be to yourself and loved ones. The private realm is where the only real rights exist.
            And make no mistake, they know this.
            The smart grid is a vehicle to achieve a post sovereign rulership.
            There is a global war on, intended to try to destroy the sovereignty on which all common law rights rest. Sabotage is well underway in Au and NZ to void all lawful rights by means of a corporate take over, a seemingly bloodless covert coup based on a plan to achieve corporate foreign ownership of your country, and mine, and separately to take all possession of it’s assets, including all essentials and all energy sources.
            The global agenda seems to be to dismantle everything which currently protects property ownership rights, and to dismantle sovereignty thru trade deals and a systematic corporate takeover of all essential services such as the energy sector, agriculture, water, done via incrementalism in conjunction with the purchase of the country itself by international banks, insurance agencies, and the like. The inroads in this direction in North America are mind boggling.

          • Mia says:

            Remember Marshall McLuhan and his motto: ” The medium is the message”? Enter the smart grid. The medium is microwaves. The medium is not only the message it is the method and the means of profit.
            What is so diabolical about the smart grid is that the microwave method of delivery IS the money maker, as is the stolen data and electricity futures derivatives, next.
            Total harmonic distortion is a result of the introduction of microwaves to an existing electrical system.
            In fact each utility is using the method of delivery, the microwave spikes and pulses, to augment “measurement” and give the “appearance” of usage while at the same time removing the means for the customer to understand their own usage.

            That said, many homes are also incorrectly grounded, or not grounded at all, or grounded to the water pipes, or else the wires are not correctly twisted to cancel fields, or all of the above, and even regular pre smart grid electrical transients usually comprise 80% of electrical fields in homes, even without the microwaves which STILL enter the home via the path of least resistance, the transmission lines, with or without a smart meter on that home.

            In fact there is no such thing as opting out since your neighbour’s s/meter can read your microchipped fridge or stove, etc.

            Question: Can a suppressor stop the wireless signals from s/meters nearby your home. Not likely. But at least that form of wireless attenuates.

            The time for diagnosis is done, IMO.

            To continue to analyze the smart grid problem without addressing solutions risks a descent into morbid fascination with a train wreck.
            We know the disease.
            Now it is cure time.
            And there is a cure or two out there.
            Time to de-incentivize the utility, isn’t it?

            Time to neutralize the motive for the grid? And once done, there goes the reason for its existence.

            The motive is a very simple model – greed.
            Time to cut off the corporate ponzi grab for your wallet, as well as to protect your data, and to save your health? Sure, why not?

            Survival is yours for the taking.
            You just have to get over the fact that yes, it’s up to you to bear the cost to defeat their system, one household at a time.

            Convince your neighbours to do the same and the exponential effect grows. Convince enough people to do so and the utility loses the greed driven reward for the introduction of the microwave grid, which is government, police and even military control of your home and property, and pure profit, all if it funded by you.

            Who (besides the utility) knew that US people would irrationally vote against their own best interests by choosing yet again a president who openly promised them that electricity costs would necessarily skyrocket under his scheme of cap and trade?

            Who (other than those who developed it) anticipated that this desecration, euphemistically called a “green” energy “upgrade”, would prove to be such a severe assault on all biological quality of life, would actually be a downgrade, slow bioelectrical failure delivered right into your unarmed home?

            Who (other than the government who wrote all those laws to grant full legal immunity to all of the corporations carrying this out) ever imagined ahead of time that each so called customer not only would be expected to pay for perpetual obsolescence via a new replacement transmitting data thieving spy device every few years henceforth, but realized that additionally the task to subvert the harm and stop this theft would fall to each energy/water customer? …..
            Meaning that it’s up to you now to protect yourself from the utility.

            Luckily, there are plenty of ways to do so.

            The utility sees fit to protect not you but only the remotely operated computerized network management equipment from their own microwave method of data mining. That is the purpose of the aggressive and uniquely harmful SMPS.
            Many have asked why did they not build in a suppressor?
            Well… there is no profit in stopping the pulses.
            Besides that is your job now.

            They are statutorily exempt from all liability.
            Meanwhile they are taking over your private property and using it and your non BX (BX is armoured or metal clad shielded wiring) home wiring to run and sustain and operate and enable their profits using continuous “chat” on their system, run at your expense, aerial trespass, electronic trespass, physical assault, call it what you will, they have prearranged to be free to ignore your rights unless you assert them yourself.

            In this scheme every single biological being, human or otherwise, serves as the ground wire for this wireless system.

            That means that each one of us, our loved ones, our unborn babies, our pets and all wildlife, our gardens, all forests, flora, fauna, fish, bees birds, butterflies, bats, …..all things biological …..are in effect being slowly electrocuted, since that is precisely what electromagnetically precipitated electrical induction is, a case of electrocution. Corporate electrocution.

            So …You have been deemed to serve as the ground wire for their system.
            Your nerves and muscles are the switches forced to rapidly artificially depolarize as they are involuntarily coupled into the grid.

            Which begs the only question worth asking:
            WHY NOT REFUSE TO GROUND THEIR WIRELESS SYSTEM?

            Every corporate utility’s profit margin depends on the perpetuation of this unconscionable method of delivery.

            The scheme is about the utility profiting from their own agenda to use unshielded surges, pulses and spikes to make trillions of dollars – which they call “usage”, and to make even more by calling stolen private data “personal” while ignoring the illegal wiretap aspect of all of this.

            The pulses themselves are what is measured here, – not real time personal usage, … at least not “usage” as any customer ever understood it, up until now. This computer has software able to be overwritten, also able to “disappear” its own tracks, clamped on every home on earth as it rounds up the KWh every quarter hour.

            This is an estimation system. It estimates pulsing energy.
            It is not about real time “usage”.
            It bears no resemblance to how any previous electromechanical meter ever measured voltage directly. It measure ambient energy, not mere voltage. This is why bills skyrocket.

            Electromechanical meters are safe and user friendly. Smart meters are intentionally just the opposite.
            And that makes you the collateral damage for corporate profiteering
            OR DOES IT?

            Here is an idea:
            Why not legally foil them at their own game? (pardon the pun).

            Granted, a whole house suppressor won’t on its own save the ecosystem outside your home, but it will assure you relief from microwave hell and return your privacy while lowering your bills.

            Afterwards you can always work out a safe way to ground the so called “meter” in order to neutralize and deposit into the ground all of its return signals, as a way to stop the utility from using your home as a two way mini cell tower busy collecting data.

            Never before has your home been directly linked to 5000 other meters as one continuous circuit while chatting with and sending private data around the continuous network circuit of up to 5000 other “private” meters en route back to Gouge Central.

            A good whole house suppressor will at very least assure a safer bunker until this war is finally declared criminal.

            Consider the purchase and installation of a whole house suppressor of reasonably high quality (certainly don’t go for the cheapest one at Home Depot).
            The military and most of industry already use these suppressor devices. It saves them a ton of money and stops wear and tear on components of their operations.

            Seriously consider hiring an electrician for under one hour to affect the installation of a whole house surge suppressor, which attenuates the total harmonic distortion introduced to your home by the microwave driven smart grid.

            A suppressor lowers bills, stops LED burn out, and can also attenuate existing transients which are already part and parcel of almost any electricity delivery system, even without the addition of microwaves.

            A good suppressor will smooth out the sine wave surges, pulses, and prevent their continuous circulation around all home circuits.

            This can be well worth the investment of a couple of hundred dollars or so.
            There are many brands and many prices out there from military grade for everything from lightening down to 1 MHz or for typical household use, for anywhere in between. check out Sinetamer or EATN, there are many reputable brands everywhere.
            Just read the fine print.
            Be sure to get one with a comprehensive warranty of at least 15 years or more, and with protection for, say, $75,000 to insure non chipped appliances and vulnerable electronics.

            A whole house suppressor can significantly lower your “smart” energy bills, legally, and may also short circuit (another pun!) the TOU or time of use charge game, by blocking the pulses which otherwise are meant to be part of how the utility identifies the frequency signature for each component in the home.

            It seems likely that a suppressor would attenuate the worst source of harm, the SMPS, or switch mode power supply which apparently supposedly converts energy from AC to DC and protects the circuit boards of the computer device they call a meter (not).

            The SMPS is capable of spiking up to 70,000 gigs and back, and is in there not to protect you but solely to protect this network management and communications device from line voltage transients.

            So think about it.
            What the utility calls “usage” these days is really their device’s measurement of the microwave spikes and fields, a “distortion-for-profit” system comprised of harmonics which they themselves generate.

            The medium is the message takes on a whole new meaning here, since the medium is the method for gouging the customer. Hence the drastic increase in bills.
            Truly a license to print money.
            Why not send the harm packing?

            • Freedom Rules says:

              Very true what you say, Mia. I wish there were more people willing to think like you. Some are in serious denial and do not want to believe the awful truth, no matter how much info we give them. I like to think that I lead by example but so many of my family/friends have allowed the installation which means my advice (and my EHS symptoms from neighbouring SM’s) was ignored. I await the fallout, I guess. My own fight continues and I won’t give in. Thanks for your help! Have you heard of the Geocleanse power saver? This plugs into a wall socket to decrease the dirty electricity around the home.

        • Gwen says:

          WE are quickly becoming a Police Nation. Our current prime minister tries to do everything covertly. He is trying to take away our ABC, the only media we have that brings us the truth.

          • Ashley says:

            Yes, there’s all the covert stuff and we should keep our minds switched on in regards to what the bikie laws and raids might REALLY be about. I bought new home security doors recently and the vendor was not even allowed to call them Security Doors. It seems to me that someone does not like the notion that your home should be your sanctuary. Even the new dark police uniforms have a Nazi flavour about them, to me.

          • John M says:

            @Gwen There is little ‘truth’ to be found on ABC, or any other mainstream media outlet for that matter. In fact, some of the worst in your face globalist agenda propaganda and programming is pushed via the ABC because it does so more extensively beyond mere little sound bites here and there. The ABC frequently gives a platform for globalist NWO stooges to voice some of the most outrageous of the agenda’s including population reduction. In my opinion it is by far the most dangerous of the TV channels to be watching seeking truth. Look to the internet for alternative media sources where they’re not so heavily biased and controlled.

            • Gwen says:

              Thanks John M. You have mentioned the globalist agenda before and since then I have been quite shocked at how it is being pushed at us. What shocks me even more is how many people don’t believe what you say without investigating things and just how many don’t want to know.

              • Ashley says:

                Gwen, the non-believers are unwittingly defending a world that we have unwittingly created with our very own minds. Each of us, in varying degrees from person to person, has a CONSPIRACY going on in our own heads – left brain CONTROL versus right brain peace of mind. The non-believers deny, mock or attack the messenger because they are subconsciously under the control of their own left brain mentality.

                Even keeping issues like suicide relatively swept under the carpet and blaming Saturday night violence on alcohol are really about keeping the true problem/solution obscure. As a society we will continue to bring about these attacks upon ourselves until such time as we CHOOSE to better manage our very own minds – which is actually quite easy/natuaral to do unless a lot of effort goes into keeping us off balance.

          • geoffrey says:

            If you believe the ABC brings us the truth, I’ve got a bridge in Sydney to sell you. Next you will be telling us that voting for any of the politicians not in power will fix the problem too, or that the justice system is fair and impartial…..but you are right about the police nation point and current pms. Divided we fall, United we have a chance 🙂

            • Gwen says:

              Geoffrey, I heard about the police state and what the so called politicians are doing from the ABC. While they don’t bring the complete truth, you will find out more from them than any other news station.
              Thankfully I am becoming more informed from intelligent people on this website, SSMA. Being sarcastic to someone who wants to place a comment is unnecessary.

              • Freedom Rules says:

                I agree – but I also think there isn’t enough transparency or common sense in the media and too much corporate whitewashing to be taken seriously at times.

              • geoffrey says:

                @gwen, apologies for my gruff manner, you not see the humor? When you give your opinion sometimes some don’t like it, the price of freedom of speech, even though we ain’t got that anymore. I’ve been accused and called way worse. I’m no fan of being politically correct. I am angered by the acquiescence, ignorance and arrogance in this country. I comment on the content not the commentator, its not personal. Turn off the tv, period, all mass media lie for their banker masters, period. If you research disinformation you will find that the best way to co opt is with a sprinkle of truth on top of their lies. The ABC has had years to hone their craft with help from their parent the BBC. I for 1 will rejoice their demise.

                I encourage and applaud your endeavours to inform yourself, keep it up, but don’t settle for superficiality. Use the internet while it is still somewhat open with truth. 🙂

                • Gwen says:

                  Thanks Geoffrey. We must stand united and keep fighting. I have become more informed through reading your posts and the links you have provided. A very grim picture of our future has been portrayed if the push for a one world government is continued. It’s better to know what’s ahead, to try to prevent disaster and not have your head in the sand pretending it isn’t real. All the best in the fight to take back our power.

  161. Peter says:

    From the home page: Is the Victorian government double dipping? Or is this a ‘tax on privacy’?

  162. George.P says:

    Here is a list of cited trespass cases you can use in your defence against anyone attempting to install a SMART meter, and any corporation acting outside of common law.

    – Matar v Jones [2011] NSW CA 304
    – AMP General Insurance Limited v Kull [2005] NSWCA 442
    – Giorginis v Kastrati [1988] 48 SASR 371
    – Plenty v Dillon & Ors (1991) 171CLR 635
    – Grant v Brewarrina Shire Council [No. 2] [2003] NSW LEC 54
    -The Mediana [1900] AC 113
    – Port Stephens Shire Council & Anor v Tellamist Pty Limited [2004] NSWCA 353
    – New South Wales v Ibbett (2006) 231 ALR 485
    – Kuru v The State of New South Wales (2008) 236 CLR 1
    – Uren v John Fairfax & Sons Pty Limited (1966) 117 CLR 118
    – Lamb v Cotogno (1988) 164 CLR 1
    – Rookes v Barnard [1964] AC 1129 at 1228
    – Fontin v Katapodis (1962) 108 CLR 177
    – Kidman v Farmer’s Centre Pty Limited [1959] Qd R 8
    – Bankstown City Council v Alamdo Holdings Pty Ltd (2005) 223 CLR 660
    – Mid Density Developments Pty Ltd v Rockdale Municipal Council (1993) 44 FCR 290
    – NSW v Ibbett (2006) 229 CLR 638 at [31]
    – XL Petroleum (NSW) Pty Ltd v Caltex Oil (Aust) Pty Ltd (1985) 155 CLR 448
    – Rookes v Barnard [1964] AC 1129
    – Lee and Robert Rumble v Liverpool Plains Shire Council & Ors [2012] NSWDC 95

  163. Eric says:

    Television news coverage of the Pier to Pub race on the weekend showed two of the participants standing side by side in the water, Ted Baillieu and Peter Batchelor.

    A prison cell awaits the both of them.

  164. Hi Everyone,
    I have formulated a bit of an info sheet you should paste into letters etc regarding health effects of non-ionizing radiation, it is taken from the bioinitiative report 2012.
    government “guidelines” at present ignore non-ionizing effects instead only focusing on heating effects of radiation, which allows them to set such a high exposure limit.

    Despite the Australian “Guidelines” (where the word guideline implies a lack of conclusive evidence) reporting that microwave EMR is safe,
    It appears through thorough review of ARPANSA documents that the government continues to support “thermal-only” guidelines, and routinely defend doing so,
    a) by omitting or ignoring study results reporting bioeffects and adverse impacts to health and wellbeing from a very large
    body of peer-reviewed, published science because it is not yet “proof” according to their definitions;
    b) by defining the proof of “adverse effects” at an impossibly high a bar
    (scientific proof or causal evidence) so as to freeze action;
    c) by requiring a conclusive demonstration of both “adverse effect” and risk before admitting low intensity effects should be taken into account;
    e) by ignoring low intensity studies that report bioeffects
    and health impacts due to modulation of non-ionizing radiation;
    f) by conducting scientific reviews with panels heavily burdened with industry experts and under represented by public health experts and independent scientists with relevant low intensity research experience;
    g) by limiting public participation in standard setting deliberations; and other techniques that maintain the status quo.

    The Bioinitiative report (2012) concludes that Bioeffects of non-ionizing (non heating radiation) are clearly established, and occur at very low levels of exposure to electromagnetic fields and radiofrequency radiation.

    The BioInitiative Report has been prepared by 29 authors from ten countries, ten holding medical degrees (MDs), 21 PhDs, and three MsC, MA or MPHs. Among the authors are three former presidents of the Bioelectromagnetics Society, and five full members of BEMS. One distinguished author is the Chair of the Russian National Committee on Non-Ionizing Radiation. Another is a Senior Advisor to the European Environmental Agency. Please see the attached report for your records. Full titles and affiliations of authors is in Section 25 – List of Participants.

    The attached 2012 update of the BioInitiative report covers about 1800 new studies reporting bioeffects and adverse health effects of electromagnetic fields (powerlines, electrical wiring, appliances and hand-held devices) – and wireless technologies (cell and cordless phones, cell towers, WI-FI, wireless laptops, wireless routers, baby monitors, surveillance systems, wireless utility meters (‘smart meters’), etc.
    This report addresses the substantial body of evidence reporting low intensity effects from electromagnetic fields (both power frequency fields in the ELF range, and radiofrequency/microwave fields at exposure levels that do not involve any heating. It also addresses the inconsistency in the literature quoted as the basis for retaining thermal-only exposure standards (see particularly the Genotoxics Section 6 where half of more of the published papers report negative effects and half positive effects).

    The BioInitiative report concludes that Bioeffects can occur in the first few minutes at levels associated with cell and cordless phone use. Bioeffects can also occur from just minutes of exposure to mobile phone masts/towers, Wi-Fi, and wireless utility “smart” meters that produce whole body exposure. Chronic base station level exposures can result in frank illness.

    Overall, the 1800 or so new studies reviewed report abnormal gene transcription (section 5); genotoxicity and single and double strand DNA damage (section 6); stress proteins because of the fractal RF-antenna like nature of DNA (section 7); chromatin condensation and loss of DNA repair capacity in human stem cells (sections 6 and 15); reduction of free radiacal scavengers – particularly melatonin (explaining poor sleep after exposure – Sections 5, 9, 13, 14, 15, 16 and 17); neurotoxicity in humans and animals (section 9); carcinogenicity in humans (sections 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, and 17) etc.
    This is only a snapshot of the evidence presented in the BioInitiative 2012 updated report.

    Many of these bioeffects can reasonably be presumed to result in adverse health effects if the exposures are prolonged or chronic. This is because they interfere with normal body processes (disrupt homeostasis), prevent the body from healing damaged DNA, produce immune system imbalances, metabolic disruption and lower resilience to disease across multiple pathways. Essential body processes can eventually be disabled by incessant external stresses (from system-wide electrophysiological interference) and lead to pervasive impairment of metabolic and reproductive functions.

    At least five new cell tower studies are reporting bioeffects in the range of 0.003 to 0.05 μW/cm2 at lower levels than reported in 2007 (0.05 to 0.1 uW/cm2 was the range below which, in 2007, effects were not observed). Researchers report headaches, concentration difficulties and behavioral problems in children and adolescents; and sleep disturbances, headaches and concentration problems in adults. Public safety standards are 1,000 – 10,000 or more times higher than levels now commonly reported in mobile phone base station studies to cause bioeffects. In fact, the smart meter at 25 Reginald Street Bendigo has been measured to pulse at 2000 uW/cm2 EVERY TEN SECONDS.

    Sixty nine (69) new ELF-EMF papers (including two static field papers) that report on genotoxic effects of ELF-EMF published between 2007 and mid-2012 are profiled. Of these, 64 (93%) show effects and 5 (7%) show no effect.
    Sufficient evidence has been shown from epidemiological studies of an increased risk from exposure to EMF (power frequency magnetic fields) that cannot be attributed to chance, bias or confounding. Therefore, according to the rules of IARC such exposures can be classified as a Group 1 carcinogen (Known Carcinogen).

    Eleven (11) of the 13 published epidemiologic residential and occupational studies are considered to provide (positive) evidence that high ELF MF exposure can result in decreased melatonin production. The two negative studies had important deficiencies that may certainly have biased the results. There is sufficient evidence to conclude that long-term relatively high ELF MF exposure can result in a decrease in melatonin production. It has not been determined to what extent personal characteristics, e.g., medications, interact with ELF MF exposure in decreasing melatonin production.

    There is now evidence that (i) high levels of peripheral amyloid beta are a risk factor for AD and (ii) medium to high ELF MF exposure can increase peripheral amyloid beta. High brain levels of amyloid beta are also a risk factor for AD and medium to high ELF MF exposure to brain cells likely also increases these cells’ production of amyloid beta. In carriers of the APOE4 genotype, myself included, the risk is heightened.
    A unifying hypothesis for a plausible biological mechanism to account for very weak field EMF bioeffects other than cancer may lie with weak field interactions of pulsed RFR and ELF-modulated RFR as disrupters of synchronized neural activity. Electrical rhythms in our brains can be influenced by external signals. This is consistent with established weak field effects on coupled biological oscillators in living tissues. Biological systems of the heart, brain and gut are dependent on the cooperative actions of cells that function according to principles of non-linear, coupled biological oscillations for their synchrony, and are dependent on exquisitely timed cues from the environment at vanishingly small levels (Buzsaki, 2006; Strogatz, 2003). The key to synchronization is the joint actions of cells that co-operate electrically – linking populations of biological oscillators that couple together in large arrays and synchronize spontaneously. Synchronous biological oscillations in cells (pacemaker cells) can be disrupted by artificial, exogenous environmental signals, resulting in desynchronization of neural activity that regulates critical functions (including metabolism) in the brain, gut and heart and circadian rhythms governing sleep and hormone cycles (Strogatz, 1987). The brain contains a population of oscillators with distributed natural frequencies, which pull one another into synchrony (the circadian pacemaker cells). Strogatz has addressed the unifying mathematics of biological cycles and external factors disrupt these cycles (Strogatz, 2001, 2003). “Rhythms can be altered by a wide variety of agents and that these perturbations must seriously alter brain performance” (Buzsaki, 2006).
    “Organisms are biochemically dynamic. They are continuously subjected to time-varying conditions in the form of both extrinsic driving from the environment and intrinsic rhythms generated by specialized cellular clocks within the organism itself. Relevant examples of the latter are the cardiac pacemaker located at the sinoatrial node in mammalian hearts (1) and the circadian clock residing at the suprachiasmatic nuclei in mammalian brains (2). These rhythm generators are composed of thousands of clock cells that are intrinsically diverse but nevertheless manage to function in a coherent oscillatory state. This is the case, for instance, of the circadian oscillations exhibited by the suprachiasmatic nuclei, the period of which is known to be determined by the mean period of the individual neurons making up the circadian clock (3–7). The mechanisms by which this collective behavior arises remain to be understood.” (Strogatz, 2001; Strogatz, 2003)
    Synchronous biological oscillations in cells (pacemaker cells) can be disrupted by artificial, exogenous environmental signals, resulting in desynchronization of neural activity that regulates critical functions (including metabolism) in the brain, gut and heart and circadian rhythms governing sleep and hormone cycles. The brain contains a population of oscillators with distributed natural frequencies, which pull one another into synchrony (the circadian pacemaker cells). Strogatz has addressed the unifying mathematics of biological cycles and external factors disrupt these cycles.
    The World Health Organization International Agency for Research on Cancer has classified wireless radiofrequency as a Possible Human Carcinogen (May, 2011)*. The designation applies to low-intensity RFR in general, covering all RFR-emitting devices and exposure sources (cell and cordless phones, WI-FI, wireless laptops, wireless hotspots, electronic baby monitors, wireless classroom access points, wireless antenna facilities, etc). The IARC Panel could have chosen to classify RFR as a Group 4 – Not A Carcinogen if the evidence was clear that RFR is not a cancer-causing agent. It could also have found a Group 3 designation was a good interim choice (Insufficient Evidence). IARC did neither.
    The standard of evidence for judging the scientific evidence should be based on good public health principles rather than demanding scientific certainty before actions are taken.
    The continued rollout of wireless technologies and devices puts global public health at risk from unrestricted wireless commerce unless new, and far lower exposure limits and strong precautionary warnings for their use are implemented. We have the knowledge and means to save global populations from multi-generational adverse health consequences by reducing both ELF and RFR exposures. Proactive and immediate measures to reduce unnecessary EMF exposures will lower disease burden and rates of premature death.

  165. So Cranky says:

    VICTORIAN government minister Nicholas Kotsiras has announced he will not contest the 2014 state election.

    They start jumping ship before it sinks, good riddance, I hope a lot more follow him.
    Pity they can’t take the damage they have done with them.

    • John M says:

      @So Cranky. Trying to escape with ill gotten gains. Nobody in their right mind would have taken on that portfolio even in a legit government (which it’s not) without something very worthy at the end of it. I hope one day justice catches up with these criminals. Whoever takes his place should remember that sentiment before doing disservice to the people.

    • Peter says:

      So Cranky, yep, ‘minister for meters’ #2 has had enough. I think the government are stupid enough to think they can confuse Victorians simply by changing the name of the minister responsible, as well as the department responsible. Who will minister for meters #3 be?

    • Jasmine says:

      Dr Napthine and health Minister David Davis attended the opening of the Olivia Newton-John Cancer and Wellness Center on September the 12th, 2012.
      Today we mark yet another historic milestone in the fight against cancer here in Victoria with the completion of the Olivia Newton-John Cancer and Wellness Center, Dr Napthine said. The Victorian Coalition Government is committed to reducing the burden of cancer on the Victorian community. So Dr Napthine is committed to reducing the burden of cancer, but sits back and does nothing about millions of people being exposed to radiation that can give you cancer. What about children? What about unborn children? Will they even have a chance to grow up? Will we be watching our children and grandchildren suffering with cancer in the future?

      • Freedom Rules says:

        Jasmine – Napthine couldn’t give a hoot about anyones wellbeing, nor does any politician. They do, however, like hearing the sound of their own voices and of course their fat paypackets. You hit the nail on the head with your comments…most people diagnosed with cancer do not have a genetic disposition to the disease but they (Napthine & Co.) want to act like it’s a ‘normal’ condition now in society.

        • Jasmine says:

          Dear Freedom Rules, my sister had thyroid cancer, my aunty also died of cancer and my father in law died of breast cancer. They do not know how my sister got thyroid cancer. Her cancer returned twice, the second time they asked my father’s permission to cut her voice box out and he refused. I also have a thyroid problem and have since found out that the thyroid absorbs radiation. The thyroid can’t tell the difference between iodine which it needs to function properly and radiation. They don’t know exactly what causes cancer, some people seem to be more susceptible. This radiation will find our weak spots and attack. The body can only repair itself so much. Of course they don’t want to talk about the radiation from smart meters, its called denial. They will just say we were not aware. I plan to make them all aware. They need to be held accountable, all of them , everyone involved in the smart meter roll out. Finally, my sister is still alive, although she cannot have children due to radiation treatment.

          • Ashley says:

            Jim Humble’s MMS, Dr Hulda Clark, Bill Henderson. They are just three but, from a reliable source, as the MAJORITY of oncologist choose if they are diagnosed with cancer, avoid chemo and radiation and go with the effective alternative cures/treatments.

      • Ashley says:

        That’s exactly right, Jasmine, the spin is to keep hidden the fact that corporate controlled Government’s have no interest in cancer prevention but actually have a vested interest in maintaining high cancer rates. The cancer treatment industry is huge dollars and, typically, tax payer money is being misused to finance it.

        A lot is actually known about the causes, prevention and PROPER treatments.

        • Jasmine says:

          Dear Ashley, I wrote to the anti cancer council. They ignored my first three emails. I asked them why they had not warned people about smart meters. Their reply was, they are talking about emf’s from mobile phones. I then sent another email correcting this error. They did not respond, instead I received a letter from a government department. They call themselves the Cancer Council now, that sounds right.

      • Mia says:

        Hey Jasmine – Odd you should mention cancer…It has played such a motivating role for me.
        on my own I cured my own “incurable” stage three cancer. That was just before the start of the roll out of the smart grid. We also convinced about 600 homes in our very small community to resist. A local welder made collars, sold them, donated the proceeds after costs to the local school.
        The way I see it, I literally have nothing to lose.
        The more they try to intimidate, the more fearless I feel, inspired to use effective strategies to stop these thugs.
        Meanwhile a generator sub panel was installed, part of planning a systematically lean, affordable, pared down DYI solar panel off grid life in future.
        Used to work with lawbreakers, so the utility’s MO signature of stealth, lies, deception, and the use of intimidation and force was recognizable from the start.
        First step: A converted steel bed frame, plasma cut and solidly welded into a rectangular collar, then slipped down over the meter’s own collar, w/ 1/2″ by 8″ long bolts counter sunk thru pre drilled holes. Once secured, it only took a few days to build a small break-&-enter proofed full height enclosure using the meter wall as the 4th side. Triple secured, steel doored, complete w/ a tiny, wired glass meter viewing window with its own interior side antitheft steel grill, plus special additional blockades for all doors in addition to heavy duty multiple locking systems.
        This double doored space is positioned off the garage. It also serves as a good anterior room outside the house envelope, a place to put a off grid generator when in use for a power outage, thus assuring security within a well ventilated enclosed separate breezeway, with its own security system armed doors.
        Lastly, the power to the outdoor electrical outlets was shut off indoors, to at least stop any use of our electricity for any break in.
        Cost? Mere hundred$, almost entirely recycled materials, on site milled wood.
        We even had some leftover siding, used to integrate the bump out so well that by the time it was done it looked just as if this “augmentation” had always been there.
        What price peace of mind?
        INspired by corporate abusers, learned how to use common law.
        What is my intentionally “ironic” motto?
        “Over my dead body”.

        • Jasmine says:

          Dear Mia, I wish you a long,healthy and happy life. I mentioned cancer because I have seen a lot of my friends and family being treated for cancer or die from it. I refuse to watch anymore. No more suffering.

    • SM free zone says:

      Another snake slithers away….

    • Eric says:

      He’s kidding himself if he thinks that’s going to keep him out of a jail cell

    • Citizen for Democracy says:

      They can jump ship, retire, whatever, they will still have to face ‘the justice system’ eventually for the role they played in this silent holocaust, just like K. Rudd had to appear in court about the ‘pink batts’ debacle. No, in the long run, they will not be able to escape the damage they have done.

    • Anonymous says:

      Nicholas Kotsiras will be well and truly gone before the next election comes round.
      I have little doubt about that.

      • Ashley says:

        Heard him announce on Radio the other day that he is getting out. This seems to be a trend across governance these days – brief postings to carry out dirty deeds.

    • Jasmine says:

      Yesterday one of my neighbors tried to stop a very old tree from being chopped down. I found out what was happening after going outside and seeing numerous police cars parked in the street. I am a friend of this lady, so later on went to see if she was alright and what had actually happened. She was obviously upset and wanted to know what I thought about her trying to protect a tree. I told her that I did not understand why if she felt so strongly about a tree being chopped down, then why did she let them install a possible cancer causing meter on her daughter’s bedroom wall. In her defense she was not home, her adult daughter was home, but was frightened, as she did not know what was going on. This young lady called her mother and told her what was happening and that she was frightened. Her mother told her to call me but she could not find my number and thus would have to walk pass the smart meter installer, which she did not want to do. Anyhow, my neighbour asked me last night if she could get the smart meter removed as I told her daughter exactly what smart meters can do. My neighbour has been told by the police that she will be charged with trespassing. This is interesting as smart meter installers will also have to be charged as well. If someone protecting a tree can be charged for trespass, what about someone trying to forcibly install a possible cancer causing device that can start fires and records your personal information?. Six police officers where sent out yesterday for one tiny lady trying to protect a very old tree. It is nice to know that the police take trespassing very seriously.
      My neighbour was very brave as she sat on the tree for many hours in extreme heat and stood up for her beliefs. By refusing smart meters we are not trespassing or trying to harm others, we are merely trying to protect ourselves and our families.

  166. Anonymous says:

    SMART meter stands for : Surveillance Monitoring And Radiation Treatment meters !!!!

  167. Anonymous says:

    Can anyone verify what is happening next month [February].
    Got told by a smart meter installer that smart meters are compulsory beginning next month [February].

    • Jasmine says:

      I got told by a smart meter installer that there would be no way that they would get all the meters in by the end of the year, because they did not have enough installers. The analog meter reader told a friend of mine to keep her meter box locked as he knew that smart meters gave people headaches. He also told my friend that his was locked. It is about time that smart meter installers were told that they will be held personally responsible and liable for any trespass or harm.

    • Tanya says:

      Same lies these installers and power distributors have been trying on us for months. The order in council allowing the rollout to continue from January 2014 still states the same as the original mandate stated: that the distributors are to “use their best endeavours to install ” a smart meter. It goes on to say that distributors are to make a list of properties without a smart meter. So how does “best endeavours” and a list of smart meter free properties fit with “compulsory”?

  168. Wendy Rice says:

    Do you realize if we win the case, the analogue meter has to be manually read and called in every month and I noticed in this forum that the power behemoths will charge each household an annual fee of over $100. Some of us cannot afford this.

    • Citizen for Democracy says:

      Analogue meters are read every 3 months and the cost of meter reading is already included in the current charges. That means any additional charges on the part of power companies will not be justified. The $100 fee threat is yet another scare tactic by the Vic Government – looks like it’s working, unfortunately.

    • Peter says:

      Hi Wendy
      You are already paying for your meter to be manually read. This charge has never been removed, so you are actually paying for a meter reader AND a so called remotely read ‘Smart meter’!
      The plain fact is, those of us who continue to refuse the installation of these surveillance and control devices will be victimised by the Victorian government. (They make these laws)
      Those who have a surveillance and control device will not have to pay for the analogue system they no longer use, but still use the same poles and wires; where as those of us who wish to continue with the analogue system, will still have to pay for the AMI which we do not use!
      Good bye democracy and fair play!!!!!

    • Anonymous says:

      Do you have the same provider for both Electricity and Gas? If so have the Electricity meter read when the gas meter reading is taken, gas is still read manually so I cannot see why the suppliers can not arrange to have both meters read at the same time. OK it may mean bi-monthly bills but no smart meter.

      • Tanya says:

        Good idea, Anonymous, but I’m not sure that it is that simple. The electricity meters are not read by the electricity retailer (the company who sends us the bill with their company logo and name all over it). The meters are all read by the power distributor for that region and they, then, tell the retailers how much power their customers used.

        I would imagine that the gas readings are done in the same way.

        • Paulie says:

          Tanya, it’s not even the Distributor who does the meter readings, it’s a contract company who does the reading on behalf of the Distribution Company.

          The reading actually goes into a system called iDOT and is viewable not just by the meter reading company but also by the Distributor and the retailer.

          Contract companies that undertake meter reading for Distributors are typically Skilltech who I know do reads for Jemena and Powercor. Skilltech also has a division that does smart meter installations I believe.

          Servicestream are a bunch of bullies who do smart meter installations for companies such as Jemena and United Energy in various parts of the state but I know they are or were doing meter reading in Warnambool region before they made meter readers redundant.

    • Mia says:

      Refuse extortion fees

    • John M says:

      @Peter. Thanks for the link. Particularly unnerving is the line about being able to access information about their water use and ‘remaining water entitlements’.

      How much more of this road to serfdom is the public going to willingly travel down?

      • Peter says:

        John, unfortunately the media are not interested enough yet to let Australians know what is happening, and by the time they are, it may well be too late!
        When Hitler and Mousolini came to power in the 1930’s they took control of the media to use as a propaganda tool. Is this what is happening here in Australia in the 21st century?
        With regard to these devices, once they have control of all three home essential services, gas, water and electricity, they have control of ‘we the people’. They can ration essential services or even cut them off at the flick of a switch!

        • Gwen says:

          Cut them off with the flick of a switch from China !

          • Mia says:

            Cut the utility off with the flick of a switch from a lean, pared down, off grid system. Reduce the number of kilowatt hours systematically. Make it fun. Turn it into a competition with friends who are equally fed up with utilities acting like crack dealers. Kick the on grid habit. Tell them to get lost.

        • Mia says:

          Take Back Your Power.
          Think like a survivor, not like an abuse victim.
          Get off the grid before it is too late to do so.
          Either you stop the sickness and install a whole house surge/pulse filter/suppressor between the meter and the service panel, to even out the sine waves, which stops the harm and reduces the bill but which does not stop the utility cutting off your power whenever they feel like it and which does not prevent a large scale extended power grid collapse,

          OR

          Read the writing on the wall. Affordable supply of energy is over.
          Be your own source of self sufficiency and autonomy.
          Prepare now.
          Then? Tell the energy dealer to get lost.

          Why let them ration you …..when you can take full control and then ration yourself according to you own needs?

          DIY: Build your own solar panels, ultra affordable, buy the individual solar cells, glue in rows to whatever size and scale back on to plywood, face w/ plexiglass, and then frame each panel.
          Buy battery operated puck lights that use LED, and have them everywhere as needed.
          Maybe buy a few aero gardening pods running on 30 watts each to grow food indoors.
          Cook on a BBQ and use it as an oven too, keep plenty of spare bbq tanks on hand filled and at the ready.
          Buy a propane on demand hot water heater.
          If possible, use propane, or better yet, wood heat to stay warm.
          If wood heat, if doable buy a woodstove with a large surface area to be able to cook.
          Buy an ecofan which runs on thermal induction, to distribute the heat evenly.
          Use a clothesline,
          Use an ice box
          Use a back up solar or propane generator to keep freezer food frozen and – if you have a well – try a solar pump or the gen set to access water.
          Wrap the freezer in a sleeping bag in between times .

      • Mia says:

        You will be abused only to the extent you permit – Mencken

    • Tamara Hicks says:

      All Mornington peninsula residents still have time to send an email about their concerns about smart meters future metering health issues, loss of privacy and democracy etc as part of the community feedback for the MPSC Health’ Hope and Happiness 2 Health and Wellbeing plan 2013-2017.
      READ the plan at http://www.mornpen.vic.gov.au/home by selecting Your Say
      EMAIL your response from this page? or to lisa.gray@mornpen.vic.gov.au
      Lisa is the MPSC Health and wellbeing Team Leader
      OR DROP IT INTO the MPSC office or Rosebud Library drop box
      A brief hand written letter stating your concerns is suffice
      OR TELEPHONE 59501685

      BY FRIDAY 10th January 2014
      YOUR RESPONSE IS IMPORTANT
      IF ENOUGH RESPONSES ARE RECEIVED ABOUT SMART METERING SHE WILL LOOK INTO THE RUNNING OF A COMMUNITY FORUM

  169. Citizen for Democracy says:

    The New Year brings with it some good news: Victorian State Elections!
    We finally get the chance to repay those who have imposed these ‘sickness/loss of privacy/fire danger’ meters on us.
    There are 2 marginal seats to work hard on – the seat of BENTLEIGH (held by Elizabeth Miller, Liberal) and the seat of FRANKSTON (held by Independent Geoff Shaw).
    It just so happens that those are the 2 areas with some of the strongest and most established smart meter activist groups in the state.
    The Frankston one is one of the oldest and most successful groups with the strong support of Glenn Aitken and other councillors. Bentleigh has the ‘Glen Eira Smart Meters Action Group’, which also gained the support of a number of councillors and eventually became so large, having members join all the way from Port Melbourne to Burwood, that it had to rename itself the ‘Inner South East Smart Meters Action Group’.
    Everyone residing in those 2 seats, time for action is now! Contact your local members, organize meetings to raise awareness of the issues, speak to your councillors, your neighbours, your friends, letter drop, organize, campaign – the time is now!!
    Ready, steady, GO!

    • jim says:

      The problem with your solution is simple, the other guys started this! What makes you think they will stop it if you vote them in? 2 party politics is a 2 horse race and in this case both are owned by the same interests. It’s a fixed game. The only chance you have is to start a grass roots party. A REAL 3rd party that’s interested in serving the people rather than lording it over them (AND WAKE UP THE VOTERS TO THE SHAM). Good luck!
      I sincerely wish you good luck and I would be the first to vote for such a party, and not any of these other clowns, that tend to be selfish and self serving.

      • Citizen for Democracy says:

        Jim, I wouldn’t dream of suggesting voting for the other major party! Both major parties in this state need to be thrown out. I’m confident that a grass roots party will indeed eventuate in time for the next elections. In the meantime, it’s time to get information on where the minor parties (NOT the Greens, who love smart meters!) and Independents stand and build support for those who endorse a realignment of Victoria with the rest of Australia (as in NOT having mandated smart meters).
        The major parties (Liberals, Labor and Greens) are only major, because we make them so. It’s time to turn them into minor parties, we have the power to do that.

  170. Peter says:

    I see Queensland is only now having a Royal Commission into the roof insulation fiasco, in which four young men died.
    How long will it take Victoria to have a Royal Commission into the ‘Smart meter’ Fiasco, in which at least one man has already died that we know of. To date ESV denies that it was anything to do with the installed ‘smart meter’, but trying to get access to any official report is like trying to get blood out of a stone. The CFA investigation report cannot be released until the outcome of the Coroners inquest, which could take years! In the meantime, how many more Victorians have to die, lose their homes, and/or property?
    What these people who seem to be burying their heads in the sand in order to defend profiteering corporations had better remember, one day, the truth will come out, and they will be held responsible for their actions.
    Merry Christmas to all the stalwarts’.
    MAINTAIN THE RAGE!

  171. Anonymous says:

    COUNCIL OF EUROPE VERSUS ARPANSA – WHO IS RIGHT?
    The council of Europe states:
    “Non-ionising frequencies, whether from extremely low frequencies, power lines or certain high frequency waves used in the field of radar, telecommunications and mobile telephony, appear to have more or less potentially harmful, NON-THERMAL, biological effects on plants, insects and animals as well as the human body, even when exposed to levels that are below official threshold values.”
    It also states:
    “The precautionary principle should be applied when scientific evaluation does not allow the risk to be determined with sufficient certainty. Given the context of growing exposure of the population, in particular that of vulnerable groups such as young people and children, there could be extremely high human and economic costs if early warnings are neglected.”
    http://www.assembly.coe.int/Documents/AdoptedText/ta11/ERES1815.htm
    ARPANSA does not even acknowledge the need to consider the non-thermal effects of non-ionising radiation.
    WHO IS RIGHT?
    Are Europeans more worthy of protection from harm than Australians?
    Please explain, ARPANSA!

  172. Grant says:

    Victoria……………the BULLY State

  173. Stef says:

    “Merry Christmas” to all crusaders of SSMA. Here’s to 2014 bringing an end to all the crap everyone has endured.!! Take care folks and enjoy the holiday season.

    • Freedom says:

      Seasons greetings Stef and all other amazing fighters on here. I have enjoyed reading your posts throughout the year and will continue with my refusal to bow to corrupt manipulators of essential services … it isn’t over by a long shot but we are steadily chipping away at their armour.. happy holidays everyone:)

  174. Eric says:

    Just to add this man had in his shop a microwave oven, a wi-fi modem, a wireless doorbell and a mobile phone. We measured the radiation emissions from these also and those numbers did not even come close to the power of the radiation emissions being put out by the smart meter.

    • Victorias Shame says:

      Why am I not surprised, Eric. More confirmation that we have all been lied to by these despicable sub-human species in government and industry departments. And to think people actually BELIEVE their ‘spin’….ridiculous and downright dangerous.

      • Victorias Shame says:

        … and we must not forget the baby monitors – which are nowhere near as dangerous in emissions as a smart meter. So there ya have it folks….lies and deception are rife when it comes to defending SMs

  175. Eric says:

    I’ve been telling the Chinese man who runs my local milkbar about the whole smart meters problem. He was an engineer when he lived back in China. Today I went in there to buy my newspaper and took my RF meter with me to show it to him. I suggested we could go and measure the emissions from a smart meter somewhere. Much to my horror he pointed out that a smart meter was actually installed inside his milk bar and lo and behold he pointed out where the sinister device was located. We went and measured the radiation emissions from Jemena’s i-Credit 500 device. No sooner had we switched on the RF meter, it was wham bam …….we were registering wireless transmission readings of the commonly seen double and triple spike patterns. The readings of the spikes were around 254 milliwatt/square meter (254 mW/m2). You are reading that correctly, not microwatts but MILLI watts. In microwatts it equates to 254,000 microwatts/m2. That’s much more powerful than what my mobile phone gives off when I hold it to my head. This man has two young daughters aged two and three. They are with him in the milk bar all day long and they are just lovely lovely girls. I am absolutely horrified that Jemena and the rest of the Power Distribution Companies can place these now proving to be harmful and undoubtably carcinogenic i-Credit 500 devices in such immediate vicinity of people’s everyday living and working environments and that they have no consideration to exposing these precious young ones especially to what I’m sure they well and truly know is very harmful technology, which has never been proven safe and for which they have openly stated they they are not willing to provide a guarantee against ill health effects as a result of these devices being installed. This man expressed to me that he would welcome and support any independant studies to look into the health effects resulting from exposures to wireless smart meters. I told him that the government is well and truly aware of the health problems that many are now suffering but that for some reason they have been unwilling to initiate any sort of investigation into these post rollout health complaints that are being reported by many persons.

  176. liz says:

    HI, In response to…
    Jason says:
    November 30, 2013 at 12:51 pm

    Onya Rik! You’re not on your own. Need help with the bully-boys or a solar-system, let us know.
    Dear Jason,
    I would like to email you re your advice on installing solar. liz.crooks@hotmail.com I hope you get to read this post soon. Kind regards LiZ (“Leave me be SP AusNet, you have harmed me enough already”!) (Nov. 29th 2013)

  177. Mick says:

    It’s time for a full safety recall of a hazardous product that should never have been brought to ‘market’

  178. Eric says:

    People are informing their Electricity Distributors about medical conditions that they have such as Electrohypersensitivity or other conditions that they are suffering which they believe will be exacerbated/inflamed/reignited by a smart meter installation. The response is the request for a Doctor’s certificate. Then the Electricity Distributor assesses the certificate and the customer’s case.

    Who the hell made these people managers of our medical conditions. These people are SCUM. They are based in Singapore and Hong Kong. Who the hell do they think they are thinking that they are managers of our health conditions ? That they with their fictitious authority can stand over us the people of Victoria and make decisions about our health and our specific health conditions.

    These SCUM from Singapore and Hong Kong have no right to make assessments and decisions about my health……NO RIGHT.

    My health is not theirs to be making any sorts of judgement about.

    • Gwen says:

      Totally agree Eric. Who keeps our personal info outside of Australia?

    • So Cranky says:

      Exactly Eric, here is the response from SP Ausnet – knocked me for a six.

      I refer to your medical certificate attached to your previous email.

      As the smart meters and their installation continue to be confirmed both healthy and safe by Energy Safe Victoria, the Victorian Government Department of Primary Industries, the Victorian Government Chief Health Officer, Australia’s largest EME testing agency EMC Technologies, and SP AusNet’s independent tests by RADHAZ you should have no cause for concern in relation to possible health issues.

      Your correspondence has been added to our files, however installation will continue as is required by the regulatory arrangements relating to the roll out which are set out in a November 2008 Order in Council (OIC) made under the Electricity Industry Act 2000 (Vic).

      There is no option to defer or refuse the smart meter installation.
      If you have other concerns about the installation of a smart meter on your property please contact our Customer Service Centre on 1300 360 795. We are committed to working with consumers to allay concerns and resolve any issues you may have.

      Talk about a rotten pack of bastards. How the hell can they dismiss my GP, have they spent years at medical school?
      Between the distributors and the Gov telling lies, bullying and harassing people, any thing to get the damn things fitted into MY electricity box on the wall of MY house.
      Somewhere along the line they must be held accountable.

      I am going to keep telling them – BUGGER OFF AND LEAVE US ALONE

      • Good On You. I’ve Told Them To PISS OFF 4 Time Now. We Keep The Gate & Meter Locked 24/7

      • Eric says:

        There is ALWAYS the option to refuse smart meter installation.

        The fact that they would stand over us and try to tell us there is no option to refuse is testament to the very fact that WE CAN refuse and that WE ARE refusing.

        SP AUSNET stick it in your pipe and smoke it.

      • Peter says:

        So Cranky
        Ask SP for a copy of the law which states ‘a customer cannot refuse to have one of these devices’, and which law says ‘they are forced to install these things’. Neither law exists.

        As proof that you can refuse the installation of one of these devices, read the following link.

        http://www.smartmeters.vic.gov.au/home/latest-news/Smart-Meter-rollout-arrangements

        NOWHERE DOES IT SAY THAT A CUSTOMER IS FORCED TO ACCEPT ONE OF THEIR DEVICES!!!!!!!!! On the contrary, the government has made provision for Victorians to continue to refuse them!!!!!!!!!

      • Anonymous says:

        If doctors’ certificates are disregarded, then doctors will simply no longer be able to provide appropriate health care. To be consistent with this policy the Victorian government should dismantle the entire health care system in this state and we should all stop paying the Medicare levy.

  179. Sick Of Their Lies says:

    Short 2.34 min clip from way back in 1996. (17 Years ago!!!) Check it out. Very interesting.

    http://www.upworthy.com/a-science-icon-died-17-years-ago-in-his-last-interview-he-made-a-warning-that-gives-me-goosebumps-5

  180. Anthony says:

    NEW Barrie Trower WiFi Report –
    Humanity At The Brink

    By Barrie Trower
    September
    8-24-13

    See the report here

    http://rense.com/general96/trower.html

  181. Anthony says:

    Lindsey Williams verified this information with research from Barrie Trower, a former microwave weapons expert.

  182. So Why Cant We Have Them Fined For Ignoring Our Do Not Fit Smart Meter Signs ????

    AGL fined for ignoring Do Not Knock sign.

    Energy retailer AGL has been fined $35,000 after a salesman ignored a Do Not Knock sign.

    Federal Court judge John Middleton punished AGL and its marketing company CPM for the conduct of a South Australian salesman.

    “These penalties reflect the need to deter conduct of such seriousness by the relevant respondents and others in the door-to-door selling industry,” he said in his judgment.

    AGL South Australia was fined $35,000 while its marketing agent CPM, who contracted the salesman, was penalised $25,000 for trying to negotiate an energy supply agreement in November 2011.

    He had remained on the premises despite the consumer having an image on the front door of a knocking fist with a line through it.

    The maximum penalty is $50,000.

    The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC), which initiated the legal proceedings, said the fines showed businesses needed to obey the law.

    “These penalties are yet another clear warning that businesses must comply with the unsolicited consumer agreement provisions of the Australian consumer law, which are designed to protect consumers in their own homes,” ACCC Commissioner Sarah Court said in a statement.

    The Federal Court in October found that AGL and CPM had breached Australian consumer law by ignoring the Do Not Knock sign.

    As part of the same proceedings, Justice Middleton ordered AGL Sales and AGL SA to pay combined penalties of $1.555 million for other unlawful selling practices, including making false representations to consumers.

    CPM was also ordered to pay $200,000 for its role in the conduct.

  183. Citizen for democracy says:

    Since watching the video of smart meter installer ‘Frank Sinatra’ on ‘A Current Affair’ on 10/12/13, I no longer feel safe in my own home. How can such verbal abuse and threats of physical assault go unpunished by United Energy? Darren had every right to ask the in