THOUSANDS of Victorians who have refused electricity smart meters could escape penalties this year.
One company has given rebels a reprieve, and others are considering their position.
About 25,000 customers statewide have defied warnings of possible disconnection and higher charges to resist the installation of digital smart meters, instead keeping older meters that are read manually rather than remotely.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? HAVE YOUR SAY BELOW
Power giant AusNet Services has opted not to charge its 8326 “refusers” fees to manually read meters this year.
Other distributors are undecided whether to charge — despite gaining approval to slug residents an additional $11 to $31 per quarter from April.
Such fees would be on top of charges all households and small businesses pay for the government-mandated smart meter rollout.
The Herald Sun understands there are concerns the cost of setting up separate billing systems for refusers and chasing payments from them could outweigh what is spent on manual meter reads.
Stop Smart Meters Australia president Marc Florio said thousands of smart meter opponents had been “bullied” into accepting them, despite their concerns over health, privacy and other matters.
“Many people were threatened that they would have the power cut off, or pay substantially more for electricity. A lot caved in the end, especially older people,” he said. “The whole thing has been a con.”
The Australian Energy Regulator recently approved applications from Jemena, United Energy, CitiPower and Powercor for fees to manually read meters this year.
But United Energy’s Samantha Porter said: “Although we applied … for the fee, we have not yet determined if we will be charging it.”
Jemena, CitiPower and Powercor are also yet to decide whether they will charge the manual reading fees.
The Napthine government gave companies the right to apply to impose the “refuser” fees from this year.
Karen Collier, Herald Sun
Stop Smart Meters Australia 
I wonder why people can’t read their own meter and ring or email their reading through?
I’ve been told to do my own reading with my gas meter because the Energy Australia meter readers are being lazy and don’t unlock my Public Utility Lock (all service companies have the master key) and so they send an estimated bill.
I refuse to do what EA say – ‘take a photo and email it or ring through or write’ the reading as they are obliged to read it and I spent $130 on the lock which EA said they would happily open to read the meter.
So, why can’t we all read our own analog electricity meter and send it to EA etc. There should be no fee. We are saving them the cost of a wage of a meter reader.
Then we can have an annual reading to check. This is what gas/elec/water already do with hard to access meters by agreement.
Ingrid I am doing my own analog meter read for electricity in exactly the same way as EA are asking to do. It works a treat.
In WA, some of Western Power’s customers are actually designated as “Self Readers”.
http://www.westernpower.com.au/metering-accessing-your-meter.html
Self reading
Some our customers are registered as ‘self-readers’, that is, they read their own meter and provide the reading to Western Power who then validate it and pass it on to Synergy for billing.
Some of these customers are known as ‘mandatory self-readers’ because they live in an area where it is not economically feasible for Western Power to send a meter reader every two months. Other customers are known as ‘non-mandatory self-readers’ because they have registered as self-read via arrangement with Synergy.
Readings can be provided by mail, online via self reading portal or by phone via 1300 662 708.
To change or update your mailing address and/or contact details you are advised to contact Synergy directly.
The whole notion of “meter reading fees” here in Victoria is a complete red herring and a deception. Meter reading fees in Victoria have nothing to do with meter reading and have all to do with cost recovery. Western Power have shown that self reading works in WA. There is no reason why customers could not be registered as self readers here in Victoria. The cost would be nil.
No Man lives with that name here. Retern to sender. 🙂
Never surrender.
Good news. Hopefully AusNet’s stay with this new direction as it will simply make their endeavours less troublesome and profitable. Companies have to realise some people are wise to weaponised vaccination regime , wifi and other birth to death management, and they will assert their freeman rights, so catering for these people will smooth relationships for all.
Pingback: Australia-THOUSANDS of Victorians who have refused electricity smart meters could escape penalties this year. | Smart Meter News
An item in the UK from this website. http://rogerhelmermep.wordpress.com/2014/07/08/beware-of-smart-meters/
*PS Is it true that the soon to be redundant G3 network will be used?** **If so costs for these things will become phenomenal if they need to be upgraded to the new **G4** **phone system.*
← “Demand-side management”: Blackouts by another name Surreal in Strasbourg →
Beware of “Smart Meters”
Posted on July 8, 2014 by rogeroffice
*/They could allow Big Brother to turn off your lights/*
img_HowSmartMetersWork
Pretty soon you’ll be offered a “smart meter”, with all sorts of sales talk about the benefits and savings it will deliver. But smart meters may not be all good news. The Mail on Sunday has an interesting article pointing out that there are serious flaws in their design, and that many problems have not been resolved with these expensive systems.
There’s a happy, smiley marketing campaign which advises consumers of the benefits of the system — “helping the consumer” to understand how to reduce electricity use and therefore lower bills, and so on. But they don’t discuss the risks: the wireless system may not be robust; it may be vulnerable to malicious hacking; the programme nationally will cost £11bn; and it indeed may change the way consumers are billed — but not in the way the energy companies and government are selling the idea.
One concern is that demand at times of “peak load” may be “managed”, either by switching supplies off, or by expanding time-of-day pricing beyond the day rate/Economy 7 system which is now in place (and which makes sense, given the spare base-load capacity a night).
Here is the spin that Which put on it, for instance:
/“Smart meters also offer the possibility for more flexible energy tariffs in the future – such as improved ‘time-of-day tariffs’/
/offering cheaper rates at off-peak times to smooth out national energy use through the day.” /
But the corollary of “offering cheaper rates at off-peak times” is of course, “offering more expensive rates at peak times”. That offer is not attractive if you’re elderly and need heat when you’re cold, or if you’re a working family with children that need to be fed and showered before school in the midwinter — peak time.
Steve Holliday , CE of the Grid, that “We need to balance demand for energy with supply. That gets into smart metering, so if we need to interrupt power supply for a few hours during the day when you’re not at home, that’s okay.”
Elsewhere , he said that consumers were going to have to get used to the idea of only using electricity when it was available, and implied that some (poorer) people may be offered deals that would not guarantee continuity of supply, but could be interrupted, as is the case with energy intensive industries currently. At best, the smart meter would force people living on a budget to wander over to the smart meter to see if they can afford to put the kettle/TV on.
A paper by Alex Henney and Ross Anderson suggests that Miliband “cooked the books” when multiple cost-benefit analyses showed that smart meters would produce a net disbenefit to consumers.
As with so many issues we face in the UK, smart meters are driven by an EU directive, as well as by UK energy policy. The government should come clean and admit that smart meters can be used against the interests of the consumer. The key point here that this expensive way of managing demand was made necessary by the failure to take the need for secure and affordable energy seriously, resulting in the loss of capacity through into the 2020s. These problems are exacerbated by over-reliance on expensive and intermittent renewables. Now the consumer faces the consequences: demand managed by prices and the energy companies’ ability to switch off the lights.
CEO Steve Holliday’s admission that smart meters can and will be used to determine if and when people are not at home is right here
“…….if we need to interrupt power supply for a few hours during the day when you’re not at home…..”
This full on sales pitch is 101% all BS
Where are the Stop Smart Meters Queensland????? Come on guys, lets get at it..I need some help ??
Deception Bay Qld …Urgent
Contact me now …
colinl1935@gmail.com
Hi Colin, how are the contacts going? I see Queensland Government Inc wants to follow in Victoria’s foot steps and sell off its PUBLIC assets. Be warned, if Queenslanders allow that to happen, your rights are sold with them. Victoria is a classic example!
One of my elderly neighbor’s received a $1200 water bill the other day. I phoned the water company for him today, the reason, it was estimated. This elderly man probably does not use more than 40 dollars of water, yet the estimate was 1200 hundred dollars. I was also told that a new bill would be issued and he did not have to pay it. Estimates are based on your previous bills, so it baffles me how an elderly man living alone and barely using any water can get an estimate for 1200 hundred dollars. No apology either.
All the utilities need to be pulled into line this includes water utilities as well.
If those concerned people who try to safeguard their homes and families from toxic elements (or WHO 2B carcinogens) are now being called ‘REBELS’ by mainstream media – what does that say about our society? It says that those who comply with corrupt Corporate agendas which exploit society are to be openly applauded. This is the NWO way of proceeding and we are right into it.
As to costs for this massive Cash Cow for Energy Companies and the like, consumers will of course be charged, deferred or not.
HG Wells once famously wrote: “The path of least resistance is the path of the loser”.
It’s now 2015. Australia WAKE UP.
I have asked the AER for a copy of the law stating we have to have a smart meter. If they can’t produce this legal paperwork then they can’t make us pay any extra charges. They are not a court either, they can’t issue fines and penalties. This article just goes to show that these charges have nothing to do with the costs of manual meter reads.
We are not rebels, this is offensive and we should demand an apology Were the people that were gassed in the concentration camps rebels when they refused to to go in the gas chambers? Is a battered wife, that escapes an abusive spouse a rebel? Battered wives are also escaping from harm and possible death.We are also trying to escape potential harm and death.Yet we are labeled as rebels.
Are you a rebel because you don’t want to get sick and die? This means that every single person that ever stood up for their rights is a rebel.
On December 1, 1955, Rosa Parks, a 42-year-old African American woman would not give her seat up on the bus for a white person, even though she did not have to, as she was sitting in the section allocated to African Americans.
IS NELSON MANDELA A REBEL?
IS MARTIN LUTHER KING Jr A REBEL?
THE RUSSIAN WOMEN THAT THREW STONES AT THE GERMANS DURING WORLD WAR 2. ARE THEY REBELS?
WHAT ABOUT THE FRENCH RESISTANCE? ARE THEY REBELS?
The list is endless, if these people are considered rebels, then I have no problem being labelled a rebel.
I would like to ask Karen if Rosa Parks is a rebel, as she refused to give up her seat to a white person.
Minnie, Karen knows we are all decent people and not rebels but she needs to present the whole picture without showing herself to be personally taking sides and I think she has done that admirably. Remember, it does need to be seen and presented for all to see that it’s those other 8@$+@rD$ who are actively branding us good folk with their inappropriate terminology. We could certainly ask all those 8@$+@rD$ whether they are prepared to brand Rosa Parks, Martin Luther king Jr, Nelson Mandela so inappropriately (as “rebels” just as they have done to us) but of course we would be wasting our time with these purely psychotic morons who are beyond all morality and proper rationale.
Eric, Karen does not know anything about me. What is admirable about printing offensive material. This article by Karen only causes more anger and stress. I find the whole article except for the comments by Marc offensive. It is not taking sides to tell the truth. Perhaps Karen could of asked what they define as a rebel. The media has played a huge part in the dumb meter rollout. Most people are getting information from the media. I have spoken to many people that were convinced by the media, that they would get a fine and therefore let them install a smart meter.
Your entitled to your opinion Eric, i don’t agree. The article is inflammatory and i think people have been tormented enough.
Not just been tormented but also left permanently and psychologically traumatized. No worse criminality is possible of white collar nature.
The real problem is that we do not have a free press otherwise we would be seeing this travesty of justice being splashed across the front pages on a daily basis without pulling any punches in it’s reporting to expose these criminal acts being conducted by prominent persons. What we instead have is a situation where everything that is put out there is contrived to serve vested interests and any genuine attempt to get the truth out there can only be done under a handicapped circumstance of having a muzzle firmly around one’s mouth.
today your called a rebel, tommorow you will be called a terriorist.
Got a phone call saying I was legally obliged to have one installed :so called legal legislation says THEY HAVE TO INSTALL THEM. Not that we have to accept these meters…. Are they bluffing, and they do not have the right to force us to accept them as they are not government?
I doubt whether I would stay connected after that.
Can I ask when did you receive that call anonymous ?
HOw about we charge an entry fee to our property…say $31 per reading.
Don’t be ridiculous! $31 is not enough!
Hi Jim,
Capital Idea pal.
Hi Everyone,
Received a letter this week from my electricity supplier stating that – “Due largely to increases in the underlying network charges applicable in your distribution area, your electricity rates will be adjusted (increased) effective from 1 January 2015”. Could this be a subtle way that U E are charging us through the electricity provider instead of an upfront cost, direct to the consumers, who refused the Smart meters?
Regards,
Sanjay.
I got a similar letter. I am going to question the charges.
My letter stated that they don’t know why electricity charges go up. What did they put in the submission to the Energy Regulator? Was it a blank submission and the Energy regulator just took a guess as to why they are increasing charges?
Could the reason be that the manual meter reading charges are unlawful and just another human right violation? Are these new charges just a hidden penalty? How could you not be aware of the reason you are taking money of people? Is the AER just trying to protect itself. These are all questions that we need to ask as they are hoping we all just pay it and don’t say anything.
The AER needs to be held accountable for the decisions they are making. They make the decisions. They are also i assume public servants and therefore work for us and if they don’t they need to tell us who they work for.
To Sanjay,
Sanjay, I can only say that “I allege that this is very likely a WICKED EXTORTION CHARGE, on U. E’s part pure and simple.
You could state in an “Affidavit, which is a Statement of Truth,” that you do not accept their Commercial Offer for that is all it is, an EXTORTIONATE Commercial Offer and an Extortionate Fee.
I say…… ”Their game is WICKED BLUFF.” Make sure you keep copies of all their original letters and any you feel are EXTORTION. Make sure that you keep copies of the letters of reply you send them together with copies of the Affidavits you send them. Post them off by Registered Post as I always do and get your Post office to send a ‘Sign For Receipt Card’ as well, the power company’s courier must sign at their end and return the proof of receipt card to your post office.
Always answer their letters politely, if you refuse to answer they will think that you have accepted their “Commercial Offer” which is often a letter of “WICKED EXTORTION” for that is what most of these letters are, but they are the same as a Commercial offer. Please note that a Commercial Offer is not a Contract, as any Contract has to be firstly properly understood by both parties and agreed upon before both parties sign the contract. Don’t fall for their bluff that if you refuse to pay their Extortionate Demand Fee that they can cut off your electric power, for them to do this is Unlawful and for which they can be Sued, talk to your Lawyer about this as I have already done. So long as you pay your Electricity bills on time they cannot Lawfully cut off your power. If they threaten to do so, tell then you will Sue them Under Brodie’s Law this will ‘frighten the pants off them.
I used this tack and have never heard from the Electricity Supplier for my area. Please look up Brodie’s Law on Google it’s very powerful indeed.
Tell them that, ” If they can’t run their business properly which they have proven they cannot do, that you will not be held to RANSOME by them. I suggest you first talk to your solicitor before doing anything. I hit the Corrupt and Money Grubbing foreign owned Electric Power company for my area with a Ten Million Dollar $10,000,000 Notice of Harassment and Bullying Charge from the A.C.C.C in Canberra and I have heard no more from these overseas bullies for over two (2) years. They had only fourteen days (14 ) in which to answer me by mail and I have never received an answer from them. You could send them as I said an “Affidavit” which you need to Head-Up as …………. ” Your Commercial Offer to them,” Name of the Electric Power Company bullying you etc.
If you want to use this approach firstly go over it with your lawyer. It cost me around $100 Dollars, possibly because I am a pensioner, which was a reasonable charge for under one hour of his time I thought. Get a quote from your Lawyer as to his or her charges before you do any business with them. Keep your letters polite at all times even if your Electric Power Company wants to charge you any fees you think are Unwarranted ‘Extortion Fees.’ Send them your fees……see below, which need to be at lease double they send you for their “fictional rise in electricity costs.” Make sure you itemise your fees on a sheet of paper including your office and postage costs and the Fee-time you will charge them to send this letter or letters as well as any Affidavits to them. Say One hundred dollars per hour for your office time and ten dollars for each sheet of paper you type, plus envelope/s and Registered Postage charges you have had to add as it is all Business Expenses you have accrued. Include this itemised sheet of paper of your costs to them in the envelope with all you need to send them.
I charged ”$20 dollars for Registered Postage and $100 dollars for the typed letters of 10 pages on A4 paper and an Added $400 dollars for my Commercial Time of four hours from start to finish to get the work done. This amounts to $520 Dollars for which they should pay you. First, check this plan out with your Lawyer. It would be a good idea for you to get a “Covering letter from your lawyer, with him politely demanding that they pay you all of these charges and his fee as well which could be hundreds of dollars, ha ha !
In this way you could possibly stop them from ever bothering you again, as has been the case with me, and a number of my friends who have had Wicked Letters of Demand made upon them or Extortion Fees. These C.E.O’s of the five foreign owned Electric Power Companies are I allege to be Filthy Robbers in shiny suits as they continue to try and bully so many Victorian Electricity Customers.
We need to get every man Jack of them to be, not only severely punished for their continuing letters of Extortionate Demand/s but every one of them needs to be SACKED and dragged kicking and screaming into Court for their still ongoing and wicked deeds of wanting to continually STEAL extra and “FICTITIOUS moneys they cannot prove we owe them and to which they are not entitled.
Their charges are I allege’ Extortionate and therefore I allege, Unlawful”. They would not know how to run a Sunday School Picnic.
To Sanjay,
Sanjay, I can only say that I allege that this is WICKED EXTORTION, on their part pure and simple.
You could state in an “Affidavit, which is a Statement of Truth,” that you do not accept their Commercial Offer for that is all it is, an EXTORTIONATE Commercial Offer and an Extortionate Fee. I say…… ”Their game is WICKED BLUFF.”
Make sure you keep copies of all their original letters and any you feel are EXTORTION. . Make sure that you keep copies of the letters of reply you send them together with copies of the Affidavits you send them. Post them off by Registered Post as I always do and get your Post office to send a ‘Sign For Receipt Card’ as well’ the power company’s courier must sign at their end and return the proof of receipt card to your post office.
Always answer their letters politely, if you refuse to answer they will think that you have accepted their “Commercial Offer” which is often a letter of “WICKED EXTORTION” for that is what most of these letters are but they are he same as a Commercial offer.
Please note that a Commercial Offer is not a Contract, as any Contract has to be firstly properly understood by both parties and agreed upon before both parties sign the contract. Don’t fall for their bluff that if you refuse to pay their Extortionate Demand Fee that they can cut off your electric power, for them to do this is Unlawful and for which they can be Sued, talk to your Lawyer about this as I have already done. So long as you pay your Electricity bills on time they cannot Lawfully cut off your power. If they threaten to do so tell then you will Sue them Under Brodie’s Law this will frighten the pants off them. I used this tack and have never heard from the Electricity Supplier for my area. Please look up Brodie’s Law on Google it’s very powerful indeed.
Tell them that, ” If they can’t run their business properly which they have proven they cannot do, that you will not be held to RANSOME by them. I suggest you first talk to your solicitor before doing anything. I hit the Corrupt and Money Grubbing foreign owned Electric Power company for my area with a Ten Million Dollar $10,000,000 Notice of Harassment and Bullying Charge from the A.C.C.C in Canberra and I have heard no more from these overseas bullies for over two (2) years. They had only fourteen days (14 ) in which to answer me by mail and I have never received an answer from them..
You could send them as I said an “Affidavit” which you need to Head-Up as ………….
” Your Commercial Offer to them,” Name of the Electric Power Company bullying you etc.
If you want to use this approach firstly go over it with your lawyer. It cost me around $100 Dollars, possibly because I am a pensioner, which was a reasonable charge for under one hour of his time I thought. Get a quote from your Lawyer as to his costs before you do any business with him or her.
Keep your letters polite at all times even if your Electric Power Company wants to charge you any fees you think are Unwarranted ‘Extortion Fees. Send them your fees……see below, which need to be at lease double they send you for their “fictional rise in electricity costs.” Make sure you itemise your fees on a sheet of paper including your office and postage costs and the Fee-time you will charge them to send this letter as well as any Affidavits to them. Say One hundred dollars per hour for your office time and ten dollars for each sheet of paper you type, plus envelope/s and Registered Postage charges you have had to add as it is all Business Expenses you have accrued. Include this itemised sheet of paper of your costs to them in the envelope with all you need to send them.
I charged ”$20 dollars for Registered Postage and $100 dollars for the typed letters of 10 pages on A4 paper and an Added $400 dollars for my Commercial Time of four hours from start to finish to get the work done. This amounts to $520 Dollars for which they should pay you. First, check this plan out with your Lawyer. It would be a good idea for you to get a “Covering letter from your lawyer, politely demanding that they pay you all of these charges and his fee as well.
In this way you could possibly stop them from ever bothering you again as has been the case with me, and a number of my friends who have had Wicked Letters of Demand made upon them or Extortion Fees.
These C.E.O’s of the five foreign owned Electric Power Companies are I allege to be Filthy Robbers in shiny suits as they continue to try and bully so many Victorian Electricity Customers.
We need to get every man Jack of them to be, not only severely punished for their continuing letters of Extortionate Demand/s but every one of them needs to be SACKED and dragged kicking and screaming into Court for their still ongoing and wicked deeds of wanting to continually STEAL extra and “FICTIOUS moneys they cannot prove we owe them and to which they are not entitled.
Their charges are I allege’ Extortionate and therefore I allege, Unlawful”. They would not know how to run a Sunday School Picnic.
Yeah Sanjay, I just recently received a letter from AGL my supplier for both gas and electricity telling me that my rates will be going up, quoting electricity by “$1.60 more per week” and gas by “$1.80 per week more”.
Then they go on with a lot of guffufal……..
“Our Fair Pricing Promise and Fair Contracting Promise gives you rights”……..yeah Bull$H1+ !!!!
“Why do energy rates change ? There is no short answer”…….”a variety of factors”…….they obviously think they have the right to just do whatever they want without having to even justify what and why. My latest gas bill is $75 for the last two months. That means my bi monthly bill will now go up to $90. That’s a rise of 20% just like that and without any justification. It reminds me of PM Kevin Rudd saying to the miners, well done fellas and then sticking out his hand and saying to them “now I’ll take 40% thanks”. That was if effect the end of his Prime Ministership. His psychopathic persona became subsequently well and truly revealed in the eyes of the whole nation.
“Save on your electricity bills. Take control of your electricity bills and go solar with AGL.”
No, I won’t be going solar with AGL. The only solar I will ever contemplate is solar off the grid. The electricity distribution companies and anyone else that would push these harmful “smart” meters can go to hell.
This is the way I will take control of my bills. I will reduce as much as possible my use of grid electricity and gas. The end game will be to have no reliability of the grid and on the utilities whatsoever. I hope everyone can take this approach. This jacking up of the prices is heading in one direction ie. the complete demise of their distribution businesses and hence hopefully the eradication of all their criminal activities against this state’s constituency.
What hope have we here when both the Labor and Liberal governments have solidly supported the electricity company’s side in this ongoing dispute? Will we all have to fall over and cave in ultimately, even if there are risks to one’s health and privacy, higher power bills, and increased risk of house fires?
As to the “smart meter” fee that the power companies can charge for using their smart meters, this would be as if Coles or Woolworth’s decided to introduce a fancy new cash register system, and then demanded that customers pay them a “cash register” fee upon entering the store to pay for this – and if customers refused to pay it, they would be refused permission to buy anything at the store. If the supermarkets tried this, I imagine the A.C.C.C. would fall on them like a ton of bricks – so why is it different when the power companies try an exactly parallel trick – apparently with the blessing of governments of either stripe?
There is no fairness or rationality about this. But I am hard-pressed to see how opposers can win this uneven battle in the long run.
Please Michael,
Don’t throw in the towel now, it’s defeatist. I have so far kept these bullies at bay with strong and polite but stinging letters of reply and a $10,000,000 Fine on them. They have it seems been scared off now for well over two years, I’ve heard noting from these I allege to be EXTORTION MONGERS
If you give in Michael then you take responsibility for any health problems, fires or anything else that goes wrong, including getting cancer. This is called giving consent and they are not liable if you gave consent. Why do you think all these charged are cropping up? They need consent, so if ever we have an inquiry they can say we got consent.
If i was in the Distributor’s shoes i would be terrified of the consequences. We are talking about radiation and millions of people that have already been exposed. They have never actually stated that smart meter radiation won’t cause cancer, what they have said is that no substantive evidence exists. They can argue in court that no where does it state that smart meter radiation won’t give you cancer and they did not actually say it wouldn’t.
What they want is for us to reach our own conclusions and then we are responsible as they can state, that they did not say smart meter radiation won’t cause cancer.
Consent is the magic word and they need it more than ever as so much information is coming out. Also no one can provide any health tests at all.
Michael, if you released a potentially toxic device that has the capabilities of make large numbers of people sick and that includes children, that have not been born yet. Would you want to be held responsible?
What if you knew that this device could cause cancer and you had sold it to millions of unsuspecting people?
“The Australian Energy Regulator recently approved applications from Jemena, United Energy, CitiPower and Powercor for fees to manually read meters this year.”
“Jemena, CitiPower and Powercor are also yet to decide whether they will charge the manual reading fees.”
How obvious is the charade that we are all engaging in here.
We all know that this has got absolutely NOTHING to do with manually reading meters. It’s as clear as the day. The reporter certainly isn’t being conned.
Read in the headline……….”reprieve from fines”
Read in the first line………..”escape penalties”
The power companies have just gotten the AER to approve the very things that the Electricity Distribution Code forbids them to do and by changing the name of these illegal acts to some other name with half an appearance only of legitimacy. Stupid choice of name though, seeing manual meter reading fees are already being charged under existing the agreements which we are certainly not going to break.
United Energy’s Samantha Porter said: “Although we applied … for the fee, we have not yet determined if we will be charging it.”
Why would you apply for it if you’re undecided about charging it? Is it just another one of United Energy’s standover tactics?
I would advise very strongly against deciding to go ahead with any act of extortion. Think on it very carefully.
Well said and explained ,,,,, so we start 2015 with the same fight from last year ,, Question ,,, how did PPowerStopsmart meters part fair in the election ,, been waiting for some news ,,, want to know if my vote was wasted or not . Thanks
After reading my own post I can only say that a certain lady can be very thankful that these posts are moderated.
Correction, I should have put “lady” in quotes
Great news, we are still fighting the hard battle here in Ireland.
So, am I a “Refuser” and a “Rebel” ?
No, I’m just looking after my health and well being.
I’m with you Eric 🙂
Hi Eric,
No, cobber, you’re a HERO. Everybody’d better learn to stand up to these bullies.
I allege everyone of these C.E.O’s of the five foreign owned Electric Power Companies to be corrupt and SERVANTS TO THE DARK ONE !
I’m only looking after my health and well being.
I would be very happy to accept a smart meter (SM) on the following conditions: 1. The government and electricity distributor give me a written guarantee (enforceable in a court of law) that the radiation from a SM will not cause harm to me, my family, pets or any living thing, including plants. 2. That SMs will never be used as surveillance devices. 3 That they will not cause fires. 4. That I will not have to pay for a new one every 4 or so years. 5. That prices will not skyrocket as they have been throughout the world. Until then….
I forgot to add 6. That the power companies will never turn off any of my devices remotely and, if they do, then they will be responsible for any damage caused to that device.
Don’t hold your breath for a reply from these morons Paul , they could never give you what you are asking for . They are a bunch of criminals supported by a government that is not ours , Committing treason against Australians .
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear.”
Cicero; 106BC – 47BC
Excellent comment Maudcrossing. Unfortunately for us though, because it is 100% true
To: Mrs Karen Collier
The Herald Sun Paper
Melbourne.
From Mr Richard Leschen
42 Hucker Street Ararat
Victoria 3377,
Dated 01 January 2015
My Home Phone Number 03 5352 3639
Dear Karen Collier,
The five foreign owned Electric Power companies are slowly getting the message from us their now Rightfully Outraged Electricity Customers, that we are sick and tired of their evil bullying. This proves to me just how dense and stupid these five foreign owned Electric Power Company C.E.O’s and their minions have been and many still are proving to be.
We the Victorian Public are owed Justice. We refuse to give into this Evil and Planned Extortion which all of the five foreign owned Electric Power companies have been trying to dish out to us their customers, also wilfully and wickedly aided and abetted by what has proven to be since 2009 two Corrupt Victorian Governments of firstly Labor under Mr John Brumby and then the also disastrous Victorian Liberal Governments of Ted Baillieu and then Mr Denis Napthine, neither of which have ever shown any Lawful Duty of Care for us the people of Victoria’s Health or Welfare at any time from these now proving to be Poisonous and far from Smart Microwave Electric A.M.I broadcasting and receiving Meters which are in truth Unlawful Spying Devices and Type 2B possible Carcinogen Meters as shown by the World Health Organisation or W.H.O as well as by many of the world’s leading and Honest Doctors of Medicine who are not in the Corrupt Pay of the Microwave Industry.
Both Victorian Governments have purposely broken the LAW since 2009 when the roll-out of these accursed and now proving to be Poisonous Electric and far from Smart Electric Microwave A.M.I broadcasting and receiving meters began their roll-out. Both the Victorian Governments of Labour since 2009 and later the Victorian Liberal Party have purposely and Unlawfully and wickedly ridden rough-shod over us their Electricity customers and openly flouted all of the A.C.C.C Laws and regulations I have found in regard to The A.C.C.C’s Fair Trading Practices, in that, it is not the job of the Victorian Government to TOADY to these now proving to be five now proving to be corrupt overseas Electric Power Companies, at any time in their wicked and still ongoing endeavour to keep on forcing these accursed and poisonous Microwave and far from Smart Microwave Electric Meter machines onto the Victorian public and against us their customers’ “Will and Better Judgement”. Even now a number of these foreign owned Electric Power Companies are still trying to force these Evil and Poisonous and far from Smart Meters onto the Victorian Public, well after the official cessation or the agreed Contract and cut off date in 2014. This is the height of WICKEDNESS for which these foreign owned Electric Power Companies need to brought to heel and severely punished.
The still ongoing and Criminal attitude of the five foreign owned Electric Power Companies and the Victorian past Labor and Liberal Governments have both I allege, to have been in open Collusion with one another and are still trying to punish us for wanting to Lawfully keep the Safe and Passive Analog Electric Meters which I and thousands of us bought with our own money and refuse to give up. It’s my Electric Analog Meter as I have the sales slip to prove it. My Private Electric Meter Box is Padlocked as well to stop these Powercor thieves from Stealing it.
You five foreign owned Electric Power Companies had better get used to the Idea that it is We your customers who are in COMMAND and not you or the past two as I allege to be past CORRUPT Victorian Labor and the last corrupt Victorian Liberal Party Government, both of which have been a disgrace whilst in office. Don’t ever think for a moment that we the Victorian Public will ever forget your TREACHERY now or ever in the future.
I have stopped the bullying I received from Powercor with a Ten Million Dollar $10,000,00 Lawful Notice of A.C.C.C Fine which my Canberra lawyers and I have served upon the C.E.O of Powercor and his minions, as well as upon the C.E.O of the Department of Primary Industry and upon another A.M.I Powercor representative, all of these papers and notice of fines have been sent with my letter of grievous complaint to every one of them by Registered Mail some time ago. They these four people had only fourteen days (14 ) in which to reply to my Lawful A.C.C.C Notices of the Ten Million Dollar Fine, for wicked harassment and bullying and my challenge that under Brodie’s Law brought in by the High Court in June of 2011, I would Sue the above mentioned MALEFACTORS with the aid of my A.C.C.C Lawyers. I have never had a letter of reply from these Cowards, so they must have got the message, that I and my Lawyers will deal with them very harshly indeed, should they be so stupid as to bully me ever again. When bullying is proven under Brodie’s Law by my Lawyers and me, they of Powercor will find themselves locked up and in Prison for up to ten (10) years with no remission for good behaviour, this is an INDISPUTABLE Fact.
To all of Powercor’s C.E.O’s and their minions both past and present ‘ YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED’, Do Not Ever Bully Me Again, Or It Will Be The Worse For Every One of YOU.
I’d really look forward to every one of you who have been so stupid and bullying towards me, to see you all serving very long prison sentences with no remission for good behaviour.
Sincerely,
Richard Leschen.
Long prison sentences in a jail of our choice. I already have the jail picked out.
Hi Minnie,
I stated that over nearly three years ago. Don’t forget the prison sentences should be long and tough, with no remission for good behaviour.
They have to prove you have refused. They can’t just make accusations. Stop calling us rebels, this is offensive, unprofessional, and just plain stupid. Are we on death row? We might get a reprieve. Where are those repeated health tests? Maybe Karen can find these repeated health tests, because not even the Department of Health has been able to give them to me. In fact no one can produce these repeated health tests. Maybe Lily can produce them.
The only ones who will be hopefully getting a penalty are the distributors and anyone else that has aided and abetted them. That includes all those that have lied misled, ridiculed, threatened, intimidated, bullied or frightened any of us.
Minnie, the due penalty you speak about is that these people should be lynched through proper process of law.
Life imprisonment is as severe as it gets under our present day law and in my opinion that is not severe enough, these people have betrayed their own right to life.
I don’t think any punishment exists that can give us the years back, we have lost.
Minnie,
We haven’t lost. Only if one gives up. I say let’s keep taking the fight to them.
Minnie,
I have already written to Doctor Rosemary Lester of the Victorian Health Department, I never got a reply from her in over five months, I alleged that she is a Straw Woman and a quisling. She should have been sacked long ago and struck of the Medical Register as she has I allege broken her Hippocratic Oath in not seemingly looking into any of these Victorian Microwave Victims Microwave generated sickness from these now accursed and poisonous and often turning out to be Incendiary Electric Meters
Seems to me all of the past Victorian Government Labour Ministers tied to these five foreign owned Electric Power Companies have only been in this Evil Microwave and far from Smart Meter Industry, have only been in it for the Money, read here FILTHY LUCRE, just like the last Victorian Liberal party of Ted Baillieu and then I allege to have been, the Take-over Puppet Mr Denis I allege to have been the MENACE Napthine, none of them giving a ‘RAT’s ARSE’ about how sick these idiot and far from Smart Electric Microwave A.M.I SPYING and INCENDIARY and Unlawful meters are making increasing numbers of the Victorian public very sick indeed, those sickness you are already cognizant with.
Seems to me that the 2009 past Labor Victorian Government of John Brumby and the recently past Liberal Victorian Government are actually The modern “GREAT RED PAINTED HARLOT JEZEBEL,” WHO SCREWED men for money some thousands of years ago according to the Bible’s Old Testament.
Accordingly, both the long past John Brumby Labor Government and this last Victorian Liberal Party Denis Napthine Government have in like kind been SCREWING US ALL just as the former Victorian Labor Party did. Isn’t it time we picked these same people off one by one by dragging them into Court to be tried for their WICKEDNESS.
We need to punish those who have been SCREWING us for so long now from 2009 and and to the end of 2014 and even now in 2015 this wickeness still has not ceased.
Will we still be getting SCREWED with these Stinking Microwave Rays from the Accursed and far from Smart Meters which are also Death Meters and now proving to be INCENDIARY meters to burn down your homes and kill any one of you or perhaps your whole family very likely in the near future ?
Will this new premier Mr Daniel Andrews finally show that he has a backbone and get rid of these Deadly Microwave Electric broadcasting and receiving A.M.I and poisonous machines.
Mr Daniel Andrews needs to be BEARDED in his Den and not allowed to escape from very strong questioning, if needs be by getting a lawful writ served upon him to answer these vital questions !
Dear Hammer Mann,
I did receive quite a few letters from the Health Department that is because I have a thyroid problem.
What I was told by The Health Department and this is in writing as well and signed. They can’t tell me what a smart meter or other wireless devices would do to my thyroid. I was also told that it is not a simple matter. This is correct, they would have no idea how my thyroid would react and to state any differently, would be negligent. I wrote to the Health Department to get information to take to my Doctor, I did not get this information, instead I was referred to the CEO of ACMA.
I have written to the CEO of ACMA and have had no response.
Dear Minnie,
I also wrote to ACMA and have had no reply from them as far as replacing these evil so-called but now proving to be poisonous and far from actually Smart Meters. Every one of them needs to be replaced with the Safe and Passive Analog Electric Meters, stolen by the five foreign owned Electric Power Companies here in Victoria.
They at A.R.P.A.N.S.A it seems don’t want to help us, as I think they have been muzzled. They are, it seems part and parcel of this FILTHY Microwave Industry I allege, slowly poisoning all of us to death. What other reason can there be?
I don’t have a mobile phone now, as my doctor confiscated it. I don’t ever want one, as mine over four years of use made me ill, so my doctor thinks, although I didn’t use it anything like as much as most people.
I won’t be happy until every one of these accursed and poisonous so-called Smart Meters which are actually Type ”A” and no longer type “B” carcinogen causing machines is ripped out and replaced by the Safe and Passive Analog Electric Meters these five Evil foreign owned Electric power companies stole from most of their Victorian Electricity Customers. Oh ! and don’t forget, these same five foreign owned Electricity power companies have to pay the cost of this vitally necessary change over to the Safe and Passive Analog Electric Meters as well.
I sent Hugh Gleeson a letter asking why I wasn’t placed in the opt-out list, would he guarantee the meter was safe & did not cause issues with blood cells, cancers etc. I insisted that if he was not prepared to personally confirm for me that they are indeed safe, that I must have my old analogue meter reinstalled immediately.
I received no reply.
After writing a submission to the Standing Committee recently, I suddenly gained two replies from a customer service representative. One dated 18th December 2014 & another backdated to the 15th of December, although post marked the 23rd of December. Neither has Hugh Gleeson’s signature, they mispelt my name both times & they included a section which, I quote, states’..Once the smart meter has been replaced with an interval meter capable of being remotely read, the electricity distributor is not legally allowed to replace the smart meter back to an analogue meter. This restriction is set out in a order in council made under the Electricity industry act 2000 (Vic).”
This makes no sense to me – – once a smart meter has been replaced…-?
That was one of the reasons why I am not permitted to have an analogue meter again.
The letter states all the stuff about;
Access,
Mandated Rollout as well as their views on
Health (they state”In regards to radio frequency emissions, United Energy is required to adhere to the standards put in place by Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency (ARPANSA) and not other reporting agencies. The meter from inside dwellings, range from 0.000001% to 0.0113%, well below the ARPANSA Radiation Protection Standard, in comparison to many suburban environments that have a 24 hour ambient RF EMF levels that are in the range of 0.01% and 0.05% of the ARPANSA general public limit. It should be noted that smart meters have a total duty cycle less than 2.5%. The meter data is collected every 4 hours, we collect the meter event data every other 4 hours, and the meters chat to each other to maintain the communications relationships and make sure they have reliable paths back to base.
The meters can communicate fairly frequently but the key is they are always very short messages and typically no more than 2.5% of the time. To test actual levels of electromagnetic exposures from smart meters, and make sure these pose no health risk to the community, the Victorian Government commissioned independent testing by contractors EMC Technologies. The EMC Technologies study, conducted on singular and group metering scenarios, found that radiofrequency exposures from smart meters are lower than other household devices such as mobile phones and baby monitors. A copy of this study has been enclosed for your information”) No copy of the study was provided in either letter received,
Privacy,
Security,
Data Sharing (they state,” Meter data is classified as ‘personal information’ as per the National Privacy Principles and United Energy Privacy Policy and will not be passed to a third party without the customer’s permission. {I find this one odd since many advertisements on television were stating your next door neighbours could check each others electricity useage to see who uses the least} The DPI commissioned a report after Privacy concerns were raised by the public. The report, known as the Lockstep Report has been enclosed for your further investigation.”) The report was not enclosed in either of the two letters sent to me by United Energy Customer Resolution Contact Centre Manager, Susanna Douglas,
Monitoring Occupants (they state ” Smart meters do not have the capacity to monitor activites of the occupants of a premise or devices within a premise. When equipment becomes available that can be connected to a Home Area Network (HAN), it will be up to the owner to choose to connect these to the network and define their operations. Without this connection, chosen by the owner, these devices will not communicate with the network”),
Personalised Data &
Benefits.
The letter goes on and I am happy to make it available to any who would like to read it for themselves.
I would gladly pay a fee if I could have my old analogue meter back please.
Thank-you for the consistent information flow about these matters SSMA.
Boopsy, if it’s not too much trouble, I would be more than happy to get a copy of any recent correspondence you have had from United Energy.
You can contact me at
h.jenkins878@yahoo.com.au
Boopsy,
The old Safe and Passive Analog Electric Meter actually belongs to YOU ! and not to these I allege to be Lying little Quislings and I also allege to be downright THIEVES of any one of the five foreign owned Electric power companies. The Analog Meter is part and parcel of the house you own so it’s yours and don’t let these lying little ”Toe-Rags” tell you any different. Remember that POSSESSION is nine tenths of the LAW ! This is a fact, ask any lawyer about this and he will agree with me.
I bought my own Analog Electric Meter long ago and it’s metal power box and have the sales receipts to prove it, and well before meddling Geoffrey Kennett sold our Victorian State Electricity Company for a measly few billion Aussie Dollars back in 1974 to China and Singapore.
I Dare say Geoffrey Kennett could have sold his dear old Grannie for a few bob when she’d reached her use-by date as well !
I built my new home in 1970 here in Ararat to the West of Melbourne and my Electric Analog Safe and Passive Meter’s padlocked to stop it getting stolen. I’ve told the local police all about this in a letter I hand delivered to him which he read in front of me.
He said to me, ” If you get any trouble from the foreign owned Electric power Company’s Smart Meter man just phone me or any of the other policemen here, I have also warned about your case and one of us will come to your home and demand they stop trespassing on your property and trying to force a dopy Smart Meter on you. If they argue with any one of us we will lock that bully up in our Gaol for four days,”
“Please only feed them bread and water Mr Policeman,” I said.
“I Will do,” he responded over his police desk, ” and ” he added, ” I’m going down to the lock-smiths at One P.M as that’s when my shift ends, to buy a stout padlock and hasp and staple to lock up my Safe and Passive Analog Meter in it’s metal box.”
So you see Boopsy I met a really decent and helpful policeman and that was over two years ago and he’s still at our local. Later he said that the Smart Meter man had called at his home and rung his bell. The policeman’s response had been polite to this Smart Meter Installer Man but firm, telling him what I’d told him that a Mandate is not the LAW and I’m not having one of those poisonous dopy and Incendiary Satanic things on my property. The not so Smart Meter man’s jaw had nearly hit the ground with surprise, then he skulked off down the road to worry yet another poor Soul it seems.
I enjoyed reading you post very much Hammer Mann!
If only all police were so minded, perhaps we would have more protection from the distributors and our government.
I am hopeful that in the not so far future, all Australians will be given a choice to have one installe, or not – & if already installed, to keep it or not.
More power to you too Hammer Mann. I hope you have no troubles.
HI Boopsy,
Thanks for that, I am one of some thousands of us who have kept my Safe and Passive Electric Analog Meter. My private Electric Meter Box is padlocked, and stays padlocked.
I had warned Powercor’s C.E.O a Mr Mark Breheny at the time and two other annoying minions, as well as the Head woman of the Personnel Department, of what I believe is actually the ‘SPIN and LIES department’ of Powercor never to bully me.
It seems to me that Powercor love to bully their electricity customers. I’d informed these people in writing not to annoy me with any more bullying letters or phone calls, and that was well over two (2) years ago. These letters and the Legal A.C.C.C Anti Bullying and anti Harassment Notice stands at well over One Million Dollars which I sent to them by Registered Post.
I had also sent a polite and similar letter to the C.E.O of what was then named the Victorian Department of Primary Industry, where I found out that a Mr Mark Feather was the boss. I demanded in writing that he was not to let any more of his minions contact me ( where I think, but cannot prove ) that it was very likely Powercor who’d used their influence to get two of the Victorian Department of Primary Industry’s = V.D.P.I minions onto me some two weeks beforehand. I then phoned the V. D.P.I and politely insisted on speaking to the Chief Executive Officer, a Mr Mark Feather who immediately picked up his phone and spoke with me.
Earlier I had politely told him that I had seen my Lawyer and that I was now sending by Registered Post a Canberra Notice regarding the V.D.P.I’s bullying me by phone and letter insisting that I take a Microwave so-called, but far from Smart Meter against my Will and Better Judgement. This Anti-Bullying and Anti Harassment Lawful Notice from the A.C.C.C in Canberra had to be answered within 14 days by letter. He Mr Mark Feather of the V.D.P.I just like Powercor would be required to carefully read my letter and the A.C.C.C’s Notice of Fine against Bullying and Harassment, which stated that he only had fourteen days in which to contact me in writing .
“If you Mr Mark Feather have not contacted me in writing,” I stated to him in my letter, “ within fourteen (14) days, then you will automatically have agreed to the terms of the A.C.C.C’s requirements which are that you cannot ever contact me again or phone me to accept a Microwave A.M.I and Incendiary and poisonous to ALL LIFE dopy so-called Smart Meter, and that you are required by law, to agree to all of the Lawful terms laid down in this A.C.C.C Legal Notice.”
Fortunately I have not heard from the V.D.P.I’s Mr Mark Feather of from Powercor now, for well over two years. Perhaps Powercor and the Victorian Department of Primary Industry’s C.E.O’s and their minions have learnt that I refuse to be bullied by them.
This has just come in Boopsy. https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/IARC_WHO_Move_Radio_Frequency_Radiation_from_Class_2b_to_Class_1/?snqQjdb
Cheers,
Richard Leschen.
“there are concerns the cost of setting up separate billing systems for refusers and chasing payments from them could outweigh what is spent on manual meter reads.”
this is code for….the power companies know this charge is complete rubbish and that it will be challenged in court as we are already charged for meters to be read and charged for a smart meter we do not have and the legal fees will be huge to try and defend it in court”
bloody criminals.
Chris,
Yes the very modern thieves are now operating here from overseas in China and Singapore I allege these thieves to be the five foreign owned Electric Power Companies.
Oh ! I nearly forgot to mention that they had been and still are I allege being Aided and Abetted by our past two Victorian Governments of the Victorian Labor Party firstly under John Brumby and next by Ted Baillie’s Victorian Liberal Party and next by Mr I allege to have been. Mr Denis (The Menace) Napthine. now SACKED thank GOD !
What about Mr Daniel Andrews, the new Labor Victorian Premier, will he help us to get rid of these accursed and Unlawful Spying and far from Smart Microwave and now turning out to be INCENDIARY and human Sickness making Meters ? Has he got one on his home property or other properties. Now that would make him a very silly BILLY wouldn’t it ?. “Or perhaps NOT,” If other Victorians have them we know, why shouldn’t he, Mr Daniel Andrew have one as well ? Perhaps it will be an Incendiary Meter too, and burn his home down as well, as has already happened in Northcote and other areas in Victoria and oversees, which I have given full details about some time ago.
“Anyone for another ‘Guy Falk’s Night’ Folks? ! ”
” BOOM, BOOM !!! as yet another dopy and far from Smart Microwave Electric A.M.I broadcasting and receiving and UNLAWFUL Spying Meter EXPLODES on your home’s outside wall, or your next door neighbours home wall near his or her bedroom wall ? ”
” Remember remember the fifth ( 5th ) of November, Gun Powder Treason and plot
I can see no reason why Gun-Powder ‘n treason should ever be forgot !
With apologies to GUY Falk’s who in England some hundreds of years ago wanted to blow up the British Houses of Parliament, What a Bang that would have made ! ‘Would have been murder though !
But isn’t that much the same thing as the I allege to be Criminally acting Victorian Governments of past Labor had been doing as well as the recently past Liberal Government had been doing, but still it is going on under the newly elected Victorian Labor Government aided and abetted by these I allege to be Criminal Overseas owned Electric Power companies to millions of Innocent Victorian right now ?
A Slow murdering of their Citizens by Microwave Radiation, happily aided an abetted by all the above mentioned. Please don’t forget the C.E.O of the Victorian Department of Energy using their vast warehouse/s to store these far from Smart Microwave Electric Meters all ready to go and burn down your privately owned homes and or small businesses when the friendly Smart Meter Man first STEALS your Safe and Passive Analog Meter from your Electric Meter Box that you may not have yet padlocked. But you have been warned about by me and others, countless times.
Then when you come home from shopping or wherever you’ve been, don’t be surprised if your home has been burnt down and is now a pile of CINDERS from the Incendiary now proving to be far from Smart Meter/s. How SMART IS THAT? !
A new state government…maybe a rethink by labor could bring around more changes to the stand over tactics and charges of the power companies. Could prove to be a ‘real’ testicular test for the new premier too. A real chance for labor to make up for their original ‘stuff up’ in allowing ‘foreign companies’ to manage and install so called smart meters in Victoria. Not what could be described as a smart move by labor by any stretch of the imagination.
Excellent comments from our resident wordsmith, “Richard”. Loved your contributions to that article. I also enjoyed the views put forth by Brian, the the founder of Secure Australia Party. Must look into that party.
The government does not have a mandate, nor can it mandate that people must install, pay fines. etc. to these private corporations. There has never been a lawful mandate in Australia except, we might call referendums a mandate perhaps. Victoria has been acting outside of its authority by introducing acts/bills and or amending old acts and legislation making them inconsistent with the Commonwealth constitution 1901. The 1975 Victorian Constitution is invalid as there has been no referendum, royal assent nor application made to the UK Long Parliament to repeal the 1855 Victorian constitution. The states, on signing the Federation to become the Commonwealth of Australia, were required to bring their constitutions into line with the Commonwealth, e.g. separation of powers. Victoria has chosen to ignore this and has tried to operate as a sovereign power and at the same time benefit from the Federation. It has also interfered with the laws of other countries. It has breached the Commonwealth constitution 1901 and the common law rights of its people; Commonwealth Weights and Measures Acts; therefore Breached the Commonwealth Crimes Act 1914; There has been a breach of the Trade Practice Act where a corporation/s have used their powers as monopolies in the market place to force goods and services on the public that has neither been requested or wanted. There are many other laws that have been corrupted and or changed in favour of controlling what the government decided the people should do or have.
Parliaments since 1975, using the 1975 Victorian Constitution (invalid) as their power base to make new Acts/legislations an to amend old Acts/legislation are likely to find that under a High Court challenge they are likely to be invalid unless consistent with the 1855 Victorian constitution and the Commonwealth Constitution 1901. where a law of the state is inconsistent with the Commonwealth Constitution 1901, then under s 109 the Commonwealth takes precedent to the extent of the inconsistency.
I was of the understanding that we all pay already for the meter to be read in the bulls@it charge on our bills marked “Service To Property”, so with an extra charge to read it (if they bring it in) will be just double dipping, Legally ripping us all off.
I don’t know about ‘legally’ but they are certainly ripping us off!
Good news in New Year. Just sad, only 25 000 rebels in Victoria, should be much more.
They said only 25, 000 this does not make it true. This is just a way to isolate you and if you feel alone and isolated you will give up. Just another game, i would not believe anything they say.
Edita, it’s much more. I would believe around 250,000 ‘rebels.’ However, there are many, many more who have accepted a smart meter against their wills. Virtually everyone I have spoken to did not want one. The 25,000 is only ‘spin doctoring.’
Since 2010, I have paid more than $500 to my power company for a smart meter I don’t have.
Now the power company may charge me extra to read my meter.
What a tidy profit they are making from me!
No thanks to successive state governments.
Jamie,
This proposed meter reading fee is absurd as you are already paying for your Analog Electric Meter to be read, so they the foreign owned Electric Power Company in your area cannot LAWFULLY charge you twice, as that is EXTORTION and double dipping and a Criminal ACT !
Simply write back to them politely and forcefully, stating in an Affidavit which is a ”Statement of Truth”, that The Commercial Offer they have made you is unacceptable.
What they have done is to make you a “Commercial Offer which you do not have to accept. Don’t ignore their Extortionate Commercial Offer, or they will wrongly assume that you have accepted it as a ‘Contract,’ which it is not, as a Lawful Contract has to be both read and properly understood by both parties and only then if it is acceptable to both parties does each sign it. If that Contract is not agreeable to the person or business to which it is being offered, you in this case, you, must not sign it, simple as that !
I suggest that you write back to them politely and forcefully and return their letter and write across it in a blue wet ink, ” Returned with Honour and no Malice and not acceptable.” Don’t don’t put a date on it and don’t write your name on it or even print your name on it. Firstly enclose this their letter within their original envelope. Then print in blue pen diagonally across that original envelope of theirs, Returned with Honour and no Malice.
Put their original envelop with their letter inside it after you have made copies of their letter and your blue print across it and likewise their original envelope and make and keep a copy of their original letter of a ‘Commercial offer of Contract’ they made you. Now that you have rejected their Commercial Offer you must put that envelope containing their original letter into a fresh envelope and return it to them by Registered Post which they must sign for. Get your post office to attach a return signature card which the Electric power company’s Courier must sign for at the receiving post office which they will return to you as proof that the Electric power company’s Courier has both signed for and collected your Registered Letter addressed to the Electric power company.
Perhaps the “smarter” distributors realised that meter readers fulfil another important role ; that of checking attempts to bypass meters to get free electricity. Have no doubt that even the “smart” meters are not smart enough to do this!
I still have my old meter and have both gas and electricity with one supplier and I would be quite happy for them to read the electricity every 2 months when they come to read the gas meter.
We are one of those rebels mentioned and are celebrating the good news for the New Year.
Have endured harassment for over 18 months but have never considered caving in and we will NOT be bullied. It’s all about the TRUTH and people power- do not be afraid.
Yes Truth-seeker,
I was bullied for a long time, but my $10,000,000 Dollar Notice of Fine on the Electric Power Company’s dopy C.E.O’s and their Lick-Spittle minions for my area soon got the message that I would not be bullied. I suppose having gone through the Second World War and the bombing of London has made me a FIGHTER to ward of these Red Painted Jezebel’s of Harlots in Men’s Shiny Suits GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR !!
Would be very hard on power companies to implement anyhow as electricity companies that provide bills for power use would also have to probably update their accounts system to cope with it all and don’t think they’d do it. From day one it was bullying tactics to have them installed. Some areas still have to be read manually anyhow as signal from them don’t work in rural areas. If mobile reception doesn’t work properly they never will either.
I still will not have installed on my three properties even if they do implement extra charge rather pay that than have further health issues.
Jules,
Their proposed Charges are WICKED Extortion and only Poisonous Corrupt Commercial Offers, you don’t have to give into or accept these Terrorists’ Corrupt and Extortionate Commercial Offers, made by these corrupt C.E.O’s in Shiny business suits, who are proving to be EVIL. Fight them properly and they will run and hide. A number of us have seemingly got them ” On The Run.” Speak truth to Power, I allege to be the Corrupt Power of these five overseas owned Electric Power companies and you will finally drive them off.
They are beginning to get scared, very scared indeed as their EVIL power is starting to fade like a dying flower. Trust in God and Jesus Christ, not these weak and corrupt C.E.O’s in shiny suits and their ilk in Government and their also Rapine GREED for Filthy Lucre they both want to keep stealing from your already Cash-Strapped Pockets.
I promise you when they DIE, they will not go to HEAVEN but more likely be flung down to Hell to serve their Current Lord and Master SATAN, the DARK one, also named the DEVIL just as Jesus Christ foretold of all who serve Mammon Alone.